Lynda

Tell me, if your friend decided to read up on the Catholic religion, do you
think she should set herself up to lead mass and give communion? If she
studies the Torah, do you think she should proclaim herself a Rabbi and do
Bar Mitzvahs?

Well, she needs is to find a new name for whatever it is she is doing
because they aren't vision quests and she can't lead them anymore than she
can be a Catholic priest or proclaim herself a Rabbi.

Which is precisely what I was talking about with regards to wannabes and new
agers. But hey, don't take my word for it, come on over to one or several
of the "real" Indian lists (yes, there are plastic shaman, fake Indian,
wannabee and new ager lists proclaiming themselves Indian) and ask several
hundred folks from dozens of tribes.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <lite2yu@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Herd Instinct


> In a message dated 5/22/2001 1:22:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> lurine@... writes:
>
>
> > Quite frankly, real American Indians get tired of all
> > the new-agers and all the bull that is out there from self-appointed
> > "experts."
> >
> > Really?? Hmm. . . my experience has not been this. A group of
"new-agers"
> > as you call them was welcomed with open hearts and arms into a
Lakota-Sioux
> > sundance. They are open to hearing of others experiences and seeing if
they
> > can use that information to benefit their journey.
> >
> > I was thinking about this the other day after discussing vision quest
> > things with a friend of mine. She has incorporated some of the native
> > things and some things she has gathered on her own to create her own
way
> > of leading vision quests. Of course, it is not the "true" Lakota way,
> > rather it is her own way that she has felt led to lead (that sounds
kinda
> > funny!). Anyway, my point is that different cultures and belief systems
can
> > "borrow" ideas and ways of doing things and have their own thing. I can
> > "borrow" some of the ideas in Little Tree and use them in my own life.
We
> > can get all caught up in the truth and what that may or may not be
> > according to some expert. I prefer to trust my own intuition about what
is
> >
>
> lovemary
> If you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself, and
then
> make a change.
>
>
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In a message dated 5/23/2001 3:07:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lurine@... writes:


> Which is precisely what I was talking about with regards to wannabes and new
> agers. But hey, don't take my word for it, come on over to one or several
> of the "real" Indian lists (yes, there are plastic shaman, fake Indian,
> wannabee and new ager lists proclaiming themselves Indian) and ask several
> hundred folks from dozens of tribes.
>
> Lynda
>

it just isnt worth discussing with you, because of course you are right about
everything and every subject, and any disagreement with you is so obviously
wrong. i think of myself as a fairly tolerant person, but the arrogance I
feel coming from you is overwhelming. it's not something i want to continue
to engage in. . . way too toxic for me.

lovemary
If you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself, and then
make a change.


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