Journals & portfolios
Natalie H
Hi Olivia,
We have been talking about this on our local e-mail loop as our school
district has also asked more from us than what is required by law. Get a
copy of your state laws and find out what is required of you. If it does
not state that you are required to have a certain amt. of days or hours
then you don't need to provide that info. If you know that your school
board is very thorough on looking at your portfoilo and you feel that
they could give you extra problems by questioning everything that you do-
maybe you should comply OR recieve counsel from the HOMESCHOOL LEGAL
DEFENSE ASSOCIATION- www.hslda.com.
Here in Florida attendance is not required or a daily log needed , but
they ( here in Osceola Co.) wanted a daily log and hours recorded from
us. I was able to find help through our state orginization called the
Florida Parent Educators Association.
Natalie
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:52:41 -0400
From: Olivia <liv2learn@...>
Subject: journals and portfolios
Question...
To anyone who uses daily journals, logs and portfolios to satisfy their
state's assessment requirement: how much detail about daily or weekly
activities do you provide? Do you just list some highlights or write
in-depth descriptions of activities? How much material do you put in a
portfolio? Should I start collecting it throughout the year, or just
gather
up things near the time when the assessment is due?
Also, my school dept. required me to agree to a "minimum of 900 hours of
instruction." How can I prove (or the school dept. disprove) that I met
this requirement through what I write in our log? I know my son is
learning something every day, but my daily journal may not reflect this
to
the satisfaction of the school superintendent.
Thanks,
Olivia
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We have been talking about this on our local e-mail loop as our school
district has also asked more from us than what is required by law. Get a
copy of your state laws and find out what is required of you. If it does
not state that you are required to have a certain amt. of days or hours
then you don't need to provide that info. If you know that your school
board is very thorough on looking at your portfoilo and you feel that
they could give you extra problems by questioning everything that you do-
maybe you should comply OR recieve counsel from the HOMESCHOOL LEGAL
DEFENSE ASSOCIATION- www.hslda.com.
Here in Florida attendance is not required or a daily log needed , but
they ( here in Osceola Co.) wanted a daily log and hours recorded from
us. I was able to find help through our state orginization called the
Florida Parent Educators Association.
Natalie
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:52:41 -0400
From: Olivia <liv2learn@...>
Subject: journals and portfolios
Question...
To anyone who uses daily journals, logs and portfolios to satisfy their
state's assessment requirement: how much detail about daily or weekly
activities do you provide? Do you just list some highlights or write
in-depth descriptions of activities? How much material do you put in a
portfolio? Should I start collecting it throughout the year, or just
gather
up things near the time when the assessment is due?
Also, my school dept. required me to agree to a "minimum of 900 hours of
instruction." How can I prove (or the school dept. disprove) that I met
this requirement through what I write in our log? I know my son is
learning something every day, but my daily journal may not reflect this
to
the satisfaction of the school superintendent.
Thanks,
Olivia
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Michele Moss
> From: Natalie H <herc22@...>WOW! what a great resource Natalie! thank you for posting this.
>
> www.hslda.com.
>
Michele Moss
Mom of Sterling Tyler age 3 yrs old
Parents of Spirited Kids Resource Web site:
http://www.icstech.net/~michele
Parents of Spirited Kids Discussion Group:
http://www.egroups.com/list/psk
Michele Moss
> << WOW! what a great resource Natalie! thank you for postingwell maybe so Charlotte.... but all i know is that i've been
> this. >>
>
> ::::sputter, trip, choke::::::
>
> Be wary of the thing people espouse, six digit incomes can lead to
> fancy websites.
>
> Charlotte
>
trying to track down info on the homeschooling laws in Montana for
a few months now and keep coming to a dead end. oh, there's some out
there but all very incomplete and vague at best. aside from noting
several appearingly interesting subjects on their main page, i was
able to go directly too some really good info on the MT hslaws.
but perhaps when i go back and start really digging into their
web site, my opinion may change?
Michele Moss
Infinity Computer Solutions
Great Falls, MT
406-727-5609
http://www.icstech.net
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/21/99 12:21:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
michele@... writes:
<< WOW! what a great resource Natalie! thank you for posting this. >>
::::sputter, trip, choke::::::
Be wary of the thing people espouse, six digit incomes can lead to fancy
websites.
Charlotte
michele@... writes:
<< WOW! what a great resource Natalie! thank you for posting this. >>
::::sputter, trip, choke::::::
Be wary of the thing people espouse, six digit incomes can lead to fancy
websites.
Charlotte
Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall
>What does that mean??
>::::sputter, trip, choke::::::
>
>Be wary of the thing people espouse, six digit incomes can lead to fancy
>websites.
>
>Charlotte
Nanci K. in confusion
[email protected]
In a message dated 08/21/1999 7:50:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
michele@... writes:
<< > << WOW! what a great resource Natalie! thank you for posting
wrong. However, I now think this is tied into the HSLDA "recommendation".
I have heard from other lists that they are good for info, but when you
really need them in a legal sense, they are very strict in their parameters
for representation. Use them for what you need, but keep in mind Charlotte's
warning.
Sam
michele@... writes:
<< > << WOW! what a great resource Natalie! thank you for posting
> this. >>Well, I started to reply to the last post...and didn't...I thought I might be
>
> ::::sputter, trip, choke::::::
>
> Be wary of the thing people espouse, six digit incomes can lead to
> fancy websites.
> >>
wrong. However, I now think this is tied into the HSLDA "recommendation".
I have heard from other lists that they are good for info, but when you
really need them in a legal sense, they are very strict in their parameters
for representation. Use them for what you need, but keep in mind Charlotte's
warning.
Sam
[email protected])
Got that right Charlotte. Look closer at HSLDA and Ohios CHEO. This
should stir things up a bit. <G>
Barb E
should stir things up a bit. <G>
Barb E
>From: Rhiahl@...
>
>In a message dated 8/21/99 12:21:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>michele@... writes:
>
><< WOW! what a great resource Natalie! thank you for posting this. >>
>
>::::sputter, trip, choke::::::
>
>Be wary of the thing people espouse, six digit incomes can lead to fancy
>websites.
>
>Charlotte
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In a message dated 8/21/99 7:50:38 PM, michele@... writes:
<< but all i know is that i've been
trying to track down info on the homeschooling laws in Montana for
a few months now and keep coming to a dead end. >>
Jon's Homeschool Resource Page
http://www.midnightbeach.com/hs/
Click on Support Group in your area (or something like that).
He lists links to state sites for each state where you can get the laws and
sometimes summaries of them directly from the state homeschooling group(s).
I found the HSLDA summary of the Mass case law to be so bare bones as to be
unusable. But with that boilerplate format, it looks complete. Anyone
trying to use HSLDA's summary could have been put through the wringer by
their local school committee and wouldn't have had a clue about their rights.
If anyone wants to find out the other side ot the HSLDA story, you can
download the HSFAR files (and read some of the others above them) at Home
Education Magazine:
http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/INF/free_index.html
Scroll down to the bottom and click on Home Schooling Freedoms At Risk.
Joyce
<< but all i know is that i've been
trying to track down info on the homeschooling laws in Montana for
a few months now and keep coming to a dead end. >>
Jon's Homeschool Resource Page
http://www.midnightbeach.com/hs/
Click on Support Group in your area (or something like that).
He lists links to state sites for each state where you can get the laws and
sometimes summaries of them directly from the state homeschooling group(s).
I found the HSLDA summary of the Mass case law to be so bare bones as to be
unusable. But with that boilerplate format, it looks complete. Anyone
trying to use HSLDA's summary could have been put through the wringer by
their local school committee and wouldn't have had a clue about their rights.
If anyone wants to find out the other side ot the HSLDA story, you can
download the HSFAR files (and read some of the others above them) at Home
Education Magazine:
http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/INF/free_index.html
Scroll down to the bottom and click on Home Schooling Freedoms At Risk.
Joyce
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/21/99 4:50:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
michele@... writes:
<< well maybe so Charlotte.... but all i know is that i've been
trying to track down info on the homeschooling laws in Montana for
a few months now and keep coming to a dead end. >>
Well, gee Michele, why didn't ya just ask?
Laws in Montana are pretty simple, I mean kids have to have vaccinations,
with a religious exemption available, the only thing that I've found the
Superintendents want is a letter simply stating that the kids will be
homeschooled. You are supposed to keep attendance.
You are on the Montana Homeschool list aren't you? Montana's Homeschool law
is under 20-5-102. 20-5-102 says:
20-5-109. Nonpublic school requirements for compulsory enrollment exemption.
To
qualify its students for exemption from compulsory enrollment under 20-5-102
, a nonpublic or home school shall:
(5) in the case of home schools, notify the county superintendent of schools,
of the county in which the home school is located, in each school fiscal year
of the student's attendance at the school.
20-5-111. Responsibilities and rights of parent who provides home school --
rights of
child in home school. Subject to the provisions of 20-5-109 , a parent has
the authority to instruct his child, stepchild, or ward in a home school and
is solely responsible for:
(1) the educational philosophy of the home school;
(2) the selection of instructional materials, curriculum, and textbooks;
(3) the time, place, and method of instruction; and
(4) the evaluation of the home school instruction.
The whole law at that moment can be found at:
http://www.mtche.org/mchelaw.htm
I've never seen anything where it says you must have certain numbers of hours
per grade like HSLDA's sites says you have to.
Charlotte
michele@... writes:
<< well maybe so Charlotte.... but all i know is that i've been
trying to track down info on the homeschooling laws in Montana for
a few months now and keep coming to a dead end. >>
Well, gee Michele, why didn't ya just ask?
Laws in Montana are pretty simple, I mean kids have to have vaccinations,
with a religious exemption available, the only thing that I've found the
Superintendents want is a letter simply stating that the kids will be
homeschooled. You are supposed to keep attendance.
You are on the Montana Homeschool list aren't you? Montana's Homeschool law
is under 20-5-102. 20-5-102 says:
20-5-109. Nonpublic school requirements for compulsory enrollment exemption.
To
qualify its students for exemption from compulsory enrollment under 20-5-102
, a nonpublic or home school shall:
(5) in the case of home schools, notify the county superintendent of schools,
of the county in which the home school is located, in each school fiscal year
of the student's attendance at the school.
20-5-111. Responsibilities and rights of parent who provides home school --
rights of
child in home school. Subject to the provisions of 20-5-109 , a parent has
the authority to instruct his child, stepchild, or ward in a home school and
is solely responsible for:
(1) the educational philosophy of the home school;
(2) the selection of instructional materials, curriculum, and textbooks;
(3) the time, place, and method of instruction; and
(4) the evaluation of the home school instruction.
The whole law at that moment can be found at:
http://www.mtche.org/mchelaw.htm
I've never seen anything where it says you must have certain numbers of hours
per grade like HSLDA's sites says you have to.
Charlotte
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/21/99 4:00:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
tn-k4of5@... writes:
<< What does that mean?? >>
It means that HSLDA will spew lots of stuff. Keeps the head honcho's money
coming in to the tune of a 6 figure income. Last I saw on the IRS filings
well over $100,000.
Sending out shock alerts, and claiming to represent homeschoolers while
running for public offices and lobbying congress on issues unrelated to
homeschooling seem to have ecked out a nice living.
Charlotte
tn-k4of5@... writes:
<< What does that mean?? >>
It means that HSLDA will spew lots of stuff. Keeps the head honcho's money
coming in to the tune of a 6 figure income. Last I saw on the IRS filings
well over $100,000.
Sending out shock alerts, and claiming to represent homeschoolers while
running for public offices and lobbying congress on issues unrelated to
homeschooling seem to have ecked out a nice living.
Charlotte
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/21/99 5:53:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Sam926@...
writes:
<< I have heard from other lists that they are good for info, but when you
really need them in a legal sense, they are very strict in their parameters
for representation. Use them for what you need, but keep in mind
Charlotte's
warning. >>
Another private list that I'm on did a review of their state laws in that
site. Several people noted that there were errors on that site and that some
of the laws were way outdated.
According to the "Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax statement
filed in 1997 (available to any one requesting it from the IRS) HSLDA had the
following:
Total Revenue: $5,621,417
Membership dues and assessments $5,100,525
Statement 1:
Grants and Allocations:
Family protection ministries 12,000
Council for national policy 1,800
Baptist Joint Committee 1,000
Investments Other
Valuation
Templeton
Global Opportunities Fund COST $300,876
Smaller Companies Growth fund COST 302,995
Growth Fund COST 354,192
Foreign Fund COST 320,234
Other Expenses
Total Program MGMT & General
Fundraising
Promotion $18,814 18,814 ---
-----
Litigation 188,062 188,062 ---
----
Congressional
Action Program 33,563 33,563 ----
----
Insurance 9,287 7,935 ----
----
Dues &
Subscriptions 7,315 7,315 ---
----
Radio & Media 92,902 92,902
Taxes & Licenses16,886 -- 16,886
----
Legal Info &
Services 68,380 68,380 ----
---
Surveys &
Research 19,271 19,271 ---
----
Misc. 16,404 16,404 ---
----
Total $470,884 $447,218 $23,666
Form 990 Part III States:
STATEMENT OF PROGRAM SERVICE ACCOMPLISHMENTS
The Home School Legal Defense Associations Primary exempt Purpose is to:
Protect and advance the freedome to home educate, and protect fundamental
rights of families
Exempt Purpose Achievements
a) Provides legal information, publications and representation assistance
concerning home schooling for families who home school. $1,436,792
b) Provides newsletters, radio broadcasts, and homeschooling resources to
members and non-members on issues concerning homeschooling. $2,033,401
c) Provides services and seminatr to members and non-members regarding rights
to home school and advises home school leaders regarding legislation and
establishing new organizations $464,273
TOTAL OF PROGRAM SERVICE EXPENSES $3,934,466
Compensation for the list of Officers, Directors, Trustees and Key employees
Compensation Employee Benefits
Michael Farris $230,714 * $15,000
J. Michael Smith 195,412 ** 15,000
Jeff Ethell 1,000
George Stroh 2,000
Ken Johnson 5,000
Richard Honaker 5,000
Rodge Sayre 2,000
*Regular compensation and director fees were $ 171,921
** Regular compensation and director fees were $155,010
Statement of Functional Expenses (totals)
Grants and allocations (att Sch.) SEE ST 1 (cash $14,800 non cash )
Specific assistance to individuals $0
Benefits paid to or for members $0
Compensation of officers, directors, etc. $441,126
Other salaries and wages $1,748,342
Pension Plan contributions $197,702
Other employee Benefits $209,983
Payroll Taxes $143,707
Professional Fundraising fees $0
Accounting Fees $29,273
Legal Fees $12,933
Supplies $40,291
Telephone $122,323
Postage & Shipping $153,004
Occupancy $188,407
Equipment Rental & Maintenance $17,912
Printing & Publications $544,637
Travel $166,128
Conferences, conventions & meetings $46,568
Interest $23,117
Depreciation, depletion, etc. $120,040
Other expenses (itemize): SEE STMNT 5 $470,884
Total functional expenses $4,691,177
Also, there is a list of what groups HSLDA sent money to, home school groups
that I don't have.
writes:
<< I have heard from other lists that they are good for info, but when you
really need them in a legal sense, they are very strict in their parameters
for representation. Use them for what you need, but keep in mind
Charlotte's
warning. >>
Another private list that I'm on did a review of their state laws in that
site. Several people noted that there were errors on that site and that some
of the laws were way outdated.
According to the "Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax statement
filed in 1997 (available to any one requesting it from the IRS) HSLDA had the
following:
Total Revenue: $5,621,417
Membership dues and assessments $5,100,525
Statement 1:
Grants and Allocations:
Family protection ministries 12,000
Council for national policy 1,800
Baptist Joint Committee 1,000
Investments Other
Valuation
Templeton
Global Opportunities Fund COST $300,876
Smaller Companies Growth fund COST 302,995
Growth Fund COST 354,192
Foreign Fund COST 320,234
Other Expenses
Total Program MGMT & General
Fundraising
Promotion $18,814 18,814 ---
-----
Litigation 188,062 188,062 ---
----
Congressional
Action Program 33,563 33,563 ----
----
Insurance 9,287 7,935 ----
----
Dues &
Subscriptions 7,315 7,315 ---
----
Radio & Media 92,902 92,902
Taxes & Licenses16,886 -- 16,886
----
Legal Info &
Services 68,380 68,380 ----
---
Surveys &
Research 19,271 19,271 ---
----
Misc. 16,404 16,404 ---
----
Total $470,884 $447,218 $23,666
Form 990 Part III States:
STATEMENT OF PROGRAM SERVICE ACCOMPLISHMENTS
The Home School Legal Defense Associations Primary exempt Purpose is to:
Protect and advance the freedome to home educate, and protect fundamental
rights of families
Exempt Purpose Achievements
a) Provides legal information, publications and representation assistance
concerning home schooling for families who home school. $1,436,792
b) Provides newsletters, radio broadcasts, and homeschooling resources to
members and non-members on issues concerning homeschooling. $2,033,401
c) Provides services and seminatr to members and non-members regarding rights
to home school and advises home school leaders regarding legislation and
establishing new organizations $464,273
TOTAL OF PROGRAM SERVICE EXPENSES $3,934,466
Compensation for the list of Officers, Directors, Trustees and Key employees
Compensation Employee Benefits
Michael Farris $230,714 * $15,000
J. Michael Smith 195,412 ** 15,000
Jeff Ethell 1,000
George Stroh 2,000
Ken Johnson 5,000
Richard Honaker 5,000
Rodge Sayre 2,000
*Regular compensation and director fees were $ 171,921
** Regular compensation and director fees were $155,010
Statement of Functional Expenses (totals)
Grants and allocations (att Sch.) SEE ST 1 (cash $14,800 non cash )
Specific assistance to individuals $0
Benefits paid to or for members $0
Compensation of officers, directors, etc. $441,126
Other salaries and wages $1,748,342
Pension Plan contributions $197,702
Other employee Benefits $209,983
Payroll Taxes $143,707
Professional Fundraising fees $0
Accounting Fees $29,273
Legal Fees $12,933
Supplies $40,291
Telephone $122,323
Postage & Shipping $153,004
Occupancy $188,407
Equipment Rental & Maintenance $17,912
Printing & Publications $544,637
Travel $166,128
Conferences, conventions & meetings $46,568
Interest $23,117
Depreciation, depletion, etc. $120,040
Other expenses (itemize): SEE STMNT 5 $470,884
Total functional expenses $4,691,177
Also, there is a list of what groups HSLDA sent money to, home school groups
that I don't have.
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/21/99 8:06:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
homemama@... writes:
<< Got that right Charlotte. Look closer at HSLDA and Ohios CHEO. This
should stir things up a bit. <G> >>
Yep, a good read at
http://member.aol.com/hsingcase would do that.
Charlotte
homemama@... writes:
<< Got that right Charlotte. Look closer at HSLDA and Ohios CHEO. This
should stir things up a bit. <G> >>
Yep, a good read at
http://member.aol.com/hsingcase would do that.
Charlotte
Joel Hawthorne
This should be posted everywhere. Is it my imagination or is there a faint odor
emanating from these figures. Not necessarily illegal but gosh ....dem salaries
look mighty nice.....an informed public is always a virtue.
Rhiahl@... wrote:
best wishes
Joel
All children behave as well as they are treated. The Natural Child
Project http://naturalchild.com/home/
Work together to reinvent justice using methods that are fair; which conserve,
restore and even create harmony, equity and good will in society i.e. restorative
justice.
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http://www.cerj.org
emanating from these figures. Not necessarily illegal but gosh ....dem salaries
look mighty nice.....an informed public is always a virtue.
Rhiahl@... wrote:
> From: Rhiahl@...--
>
> In a message dated 8/21/99 5:53:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Sam926@...
> writes:
>
> << I have heard from other lists that they are good for info, but when you
> really need them in a legal sense, they are very strict in their parameters
> for representation. Use them for what you need, but keep in mind
> Charlotte's
> warning. >>
>
> Another private list that I'm on did a review of their state laws in that
> site. Several people noted that there were errors on that site and that some
> of the laws were way outdated.
>
> According to the "Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax statement
> filed in 1997 (available to any one requesting it from the IRS) HSLDA had the
> following:
>
> Total Revenue: $5,621,417
> Membership dues and assessments $5,100,525
>
> Statement 1:
>
> Grants and Allocations:
>
> Family protection ministries 12,000
> Council for national policy 1,800
> Baptist Joint Committee 1,000
>
> Investments Other
> Valuation
> Templeton
> Global Opportunities Fund COST $300,876
> Smaller Companies Growth fund COST 302,995
> Growth Fund COST 354,192
> Foreign Fund COST 320,234
>
> Other Expenses
> Total Program MGMT & General
> Fundraising
>
> Promotion $18,814 18,814 ---
> -----
>
> Litigation 188,062 188,062 ---
> ----
>
> Congressional
> Action Program 33,563 33,563 ----
> ----
>
> Insurance 9,287 7,935 ----
> ----
>
> Dues &
> Subscriptions 7,315 7,315 ---
> ----
>
> Radio & Media 92,902 92,902
>
> Taxes & Licenses16,886 -- 16,886
> ----
>
> Legal Info &
> Services 68,380 68,380 ----
> ---
>
> Surveys &
> Research 19,271 19,271 ---
> ----
>
> Misc. 16,404 16,404 ---
> ----
>
> Total $470,884 $447,218 $23,666
>
> Form 990 Part III States:
>
> STATEMENT OF PROGRAM SERVICE ACCOMPLISHMENTS
> The Home School Legal Defense Associations Primary exempt Purpose is to:
>
> Protect and advance the freedome to home educate, and protect fundamental
> rights of families
>
> Exempt Purpose Achievements
> a) Provides legal information, publications and representation assistance
> concerning home schooling for families who home school. $1,436,792
>
> b) Provides newsletters, radio broadcasts, and homeschooling resources to
> members and non-members on issues concerning homeschooling. $2,033,401
>
> c) Provides services and seminatr to members and non-members regarding rights
> to home school and advises home school leaders regarding legislation and
> establishing new organizations $464,273
>
> TOTAL OF PROGRAM SERVICE EXPENSES $3,934,466
>
> Compensation for the list of Officers, Directors, Trustees and Key employees
>
> Compensation Employee Benefits
>
> Michael Farris $230,714 * $15,000
> J. Michael Smith 195,412 ** 15,000
> Jeff Ethell 1,000
> George Stroh 2,000
> Ken Johnson 5,000
> Richard Honaker 5,000
> Rodge Sayre 2,000
>
> *Regular compensation and director fees were $ 171,921
> ** Regular compensation and director fees were $155,010
>
> Statement of Functional Expenses (totals)
>
> Grants and allocations (att Sch.) SEE ST 1 (cash $14,800 non cash )
> Specific assistance to individuals $0
> Benefits paid to or for members $0
> Compensation of officers, directors, etc. $441,126
> Other salaries and wages $1,748,342
> Pension Plan contributions $197,702
> Other employee Benefits $209,983
> Payroll Taxes $143,707
> Professional Fundraising fees $0
> Accounting Fees $29,273
> Legal Fees $12,933
> Supplies $40,291
> Telephone $122,323
> Postage & Shipping $153,004
> Occupancy $188,407
> Equipment Rental & Maintenance $17,912
> Printing & Publications $544,637
> Travel $166,128
> Conferences, conventions & meetings $46,568
> Interest $23,117
> Depreciation, depletion, etc. $120,040
> Other expenses (itemize): SEE STMNT 5 $470,884
>
> Total functional expenses $4,691,177
>
> Also, there is a list of what groups HSLDA sent money to, home school groups
> that I don't have.
>
>
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best wishes
Joel
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Work together to reinvent justice using methods that are fair; which conserve,
restore and even create harmony, equity and good will in society i.e. restorative
justice.
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In a message dated 8/22/99 10:53:40 AM PST, Rhiahl@... writes:
<<
It means that HSLDA will spew lots of stuff. Keeps the head honcho's money
coming in to the tune of a 6 figure income. Last I saw on the IRS filings
well over $100,000.
Sending out shock alerts, and claiming to represent homeschoolers while
running for public offices and lobbying congress on issues unrelated to
homeschooling seem to have ecked out a nice living.
was paid $230,000 and the organization's overall budget for employees is over
$2 million. They took in $5.3 million in 1997. The amount spent on helping
to defend homeschoolers? $188,000.
Where is YOUR money being used?
Mary L.
<<
It means that HSLDA will spew lots of stuff. Keeps the head honcho's money
coming in to the tune of a 6 figure income. Last I saw on the IRS filings
well over $100,000.
Sending out shock alerts, and claiming to represent homeschoolers while
running for public offices and lobbying congress on issues unrelated to
homeschooling seem to have ecked out a nice living.
>>The latest figures I saw were in HEM. (Home Education Magazine) Mike Farris
was paid $230,000 and the organization's overall budget for employees is over
$2 million. They took in $5.3 million in 1997. The amount spent on helping
to defend homeschoolers? $188,000.
Where is YOUR money being used?
Mary L.
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In a message dated 8/22/99 9:53:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jhawthorne@...
writes:
<<
This should be posted everywhere. Is it my imagination or is there a faint
odor
emanating from these figures. Not necessarily illegal but gosh ....dem
salaries
look mighty nice.....an informed public is always a virtue.
the low end.
But, for further info, there is a new group forming called NHEN (National
Home Educators Network) and there site is supposed to be up soon at
http://www.nhen.org
I am hoping it will be a good source of info.
Take care.
Nance
writes:
<<
This should be posted everywhere. Is it my imagination or is there a faint
odor
emanating from these figures. Not necessarily illegal but gosh ....dem
salaries
look mighty nice.....an informed public is always a virtue.
>>They look in line with what I would expect a lawyer to be making. If not on
the low end.
But, for further info, there is a new group forming called NHEN (National
Home Educators Network) and there site is supposed to be up soon at
http://www.nhen.org
I am hoping it will be a good source of info.
Take care.
Nance
Michele Moss
> From: JFetteroll@...thanks Joyce! on my way to check it out!
>
> Jon's Homeschool Resource Page
> http://www.midnightbeach.com/hs/
>
> Click on Support Group in your area (or something like that).
>
> He lists links to state sites for each state where you can get the
> laws and sometimes summaries of them directly from the state
> homeschooling group(s). I found the HSLDA summary of the Mass case
> law to be so bare bones as to be unusable. But with that
> boilerplate format, it looks complete. Anyone trying to use HSLDA's
> summary could have been put through the wringer by their local
> school committee and wouldn't have had a clue about their rights.
>
> Joyce
>
Michele Moss
Infinity Computer Solutions
Great Falls, MT
406-727-5609
http://www.icstech.net
Michele Moss
> From: Rhiahl@...ummmmm... because Sterling is only 3yo and figured i had plenty of
>
> In a message dated 8/21/99 4:50:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> michele@... writes:
>
> << well maybe so Charlotte.... but all i know is that i've been
> trying to track down info on the homeschooling laws in Montana for
> a few months now and keep coming to a dead end. >>
>
> Well, gee Michele, why didn't ya just ask?
>
time to search yet?
> Laws in Montana are pretty simple, I mean kids have to haveit sounds like you are in Montana too?
> vaccinations, with a religious exemption available, the only thing
> that I've found the Superintendents want is a letter simply stating
> that the kids will be homeschooled. You are supposed to keep
> attendance.
>
> You are on the Montana Homeschool list aren't you?i did subscribe to that one the same time as i subscribe to this
one which was only a couple of weeks ago now. the MT list is very
quiet so far which is fine since i'm still trying to get organized
with the overwhelming amount of email i'm getting each day now from
several lists! i haven't even had a chance to intro myself on the
MT list yet either. the wasted searching i mentioned above was
actually done prior to my learning of this list and the MT
homeschooling list.
Montana's
> Homeschool law is under 20-5-102. 20-5-102 says:<snip>
>
> The whole law at that moment can be found at:thanks!!! i really appreciate this!
>
> http://www.mtche.org/mchelaw.htm
>
> CharlotteMichele Moss
>
Mom of Sterling Tyler age 3 yrs old
Parents of Spirited Kids Resource Web site:
http://www.icstech.net/~michele
Parents of Spirited Kids Discussion Group:
http://www.egroups.com/list/psk
Cindy Ferguson
Michele Moss wrote:
have you checked out Ann Zies's website? It's A to Z Home's Cool
http://www.gomilpitas.com/homeschooling
I know she has tried to maintain information about the laws
in all the states. If it isn't there, let me know and I will
email her and see what she says.
--
Cindy Ferguson
crma@...
>The more I've learned about them, the lower my opinion has gotten.
> From: "Michele Moss" <michele@...>
>
> > << WOW! what a great resource Natalie! thank you for posting
> > this. >>
> >
> > ::::sputter, trip, choke::::::
> >
> > Be wary of the thing people espouse, six digit incomes can lead to
> > fancy websites.
> >
> > Charlotte
> >
> well maybe so Charlotte.... but all i know is that i've been
> trying to track down info on the homeschooling laws in Montana for
> a few months now and keep coming to a dead end. oh, there's some out
> there but all very incomplete and vague at best. aside from noting
> several appearingly interesting subjects on their main page, i was
> able to go directly too some really good info on the MT hslaws.
> but perhaps when i go back and start really digging into their
> web site, my opinion may change?
>
> Michele Moss
> Infinity Computer Solutions
> Great Falls, MT
> 406-727-5609
> http://www.icstech.net
have you checked out Ann Zies's website? It's A to Z Home's Cool
http://www.gomilpitas.com/homeschooling
I know she has tried to maintain information about the laws
in all the states. If it isn't there, let me know and I will
email her and see what she says.
--
Cindy Ferguson
crma@...
Michele Moss
>Thanks Cindy!
> have you checked out Ann Zies's website? It's A to Z Home's Cool
> http://www.gomilpitas.com/homeschooling I know she has tried to
> maintain information about the laws in all the states. If it isn't
> there, let me know and I will email her and see what she says.
>
> --
>
> Cindy Ferguson
> crma@...
>
>
got the MT law already but paid the above link a visit. i'm
getting quite a collection of homeschooling links added to my
bookmarks. now all i need is some time to use them! <G>
Michele Moss
Infinity Computer Solutions
Great Falls, MT
406-727-5609
http://www.icstech.net
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/23/99 7:25:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
michele@... writes:
<< it sounds like you are in Montana too? >>
Will be is the operative words here. My dh was born and raised near Helena.
We have a piece of land near there we are going to start building on in
November maybe October.
Charlotte
michele@... writes:
<< it sounds like you are in Montana too? >>
Will be is the operative words here. My dh was born and raised near Helena.
We have a piece of land near there we are going to start building on in
November maybe October.
Charlotte
Lisa Bugg
. If you know that your school
As a matter of fact, the information provided about Alabama has changed over
the years, but the statute has not. I would solely depend on what this
business has to say about any of our state laws.
LisaKK
> board is very thorough on looking at your portfoilo and you feel thatPlease note, that many times the information provided by HSLDA is incorrect.
> they could give you extra problems by questioning everything that you do-
> maybe you should comply OR recieve counsel from the HOMESCHOOL LEGAL
> DEFENSE ASSOCIATION- www.hslda.com.
As a matter of fact, the information provided about Alabama has changed over
the years, but the statute has not. I would solely depend on what this
business has to say about any of our state laws.
LisaKK
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/24/99 11:17:45 AM PST, LisaBugg@... writes:
<<
Please note, that many times the information provided by HSLDA is incorrect.
As a matter of fact, the information provided about Alabama has changed over
the years, but the statute has not. I would solely depend on what this
business has to say about any of our state laws.
LisaKK
member, you cannot access the actual statutes, you only get their summary of
the law. In MY state, they "hide" a very crucial part of the law in their
summary, one that makes it easier to be an unschooler in the state of WA.
Mary
<<
Please note, that many times the information provided by HSLDA is incorrect.
As a matter of fact, the information provided about Alabama has changed over
the years, but the statute has not. I would solely depend on what this
business has to say about any of our state laws.
LisaKK
>>Also, unless they have changed their web-site recently, if you are not a
member, you cannot access the actual statutes, you only get their summary of
the law. In MY state, they "hide" a very crucial part of the law in their
summary, one that makes it easier to be an unschooler in the state of WA.
Mary
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa Bugg <LisaBugg@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Journals & portfolios
> From: "Lisa Bugg" <LisaBugg@...>
>
> . If you know that your school
> > board is very thorough on looking at your portfoilo and you feel that
> > they could give you extra problems by questioning everything that you
do-
> > maybe you should comply OR recieve counsel from the HOMESCHOOL LEGAL
> > DEFENSE ASSOCIATION- www.hslda.com.
>
>
> Please note, that many times the information provided by HSLDA is
incorrect.
> As a matter of fact, the information provided about Alabama has changed
over
> the years, but the statute has not. I would solely depend on what this
> business has to say about any of our state laws.
>
> LisaKK
>
> Surely you mean you would NOT soley depend....
Bridget
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