Reading woes
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In a message dated 8/12/99 9:43:07 PM EST, beckycraigw12@... writes:
<< My niece was reading at a 5th grade
"level" in 1st grade - but she's not reading at a Graduate school "level" in
7th grade, so I believe all these things balance out in the end. >>
Thanks Becky! I love this line. My dd is only 2yo and loves being read to
all the time, BOOK AFTER BOOK! But I have to admit to already being a little
nervous and concerned about when to teach her to read, how much to "teach"
and how much to just let her learn.
My grandma was a public elementary school secretary when I was a child,
and raised me until I was 6. She would always bring home outdated readers
and textbooks or discarded sample copies from publishing companies. She
swears that she taught me to read when I was 3. I don't remember, but I do
know that I was reading fluently when I started kindergarten. So, already
she is asking me when I am going to start teaching my dd to read. With my
younger sister, my mother read a book on teaching your toddler to read, and
started working with her using flashcards at the age of 2 or 2 1/2. So here
comes the confusion -- yes, I want my dd to learn to read, and neither my
sister or I grew to dislike reading because of feeling pressured at an early
age. But, I can't help but think that my dd might respond differently and I
can't bear to think that I might do something that would decrease the love
that she has of being read to now by forcing her to soon to learn to read on
her own. I don't want to sit back and do nothing, but I don't want to push
too hard and do damage in the long run! Anyone else been in this dilemma?
For now, my dh and I just read, read, and read some more to her. And we also
make a point to let her see us reading things that we enjoy on a daily basis
as well. Hopefully, we will know when the time is right for her.
On the other hand, although my sister and I were both early readers, we
also both seemed to plateau somewhere around jr. high. And neither of us
have IQs jumping off the scales now! In fact, I thoroughly embarrassed
myself a little over a month ago, when in the midst of a conversation
regarding people with very high IQs, I remarked, "Yes, like those people in
Mesna, right?" Oh well - I guess that alone would eliminate me from
membership!
Candice in OK (BTW, I don't think I've ever posted before here. I'll
introduce later!)
wife of Kevin, mother of Abigail (age 2)
<< My niece was reading at a 5th grade
"level" in 1st grade - but she's not reading at a Graduate school "level" in
7th grade, so I believe all these things balance out in the end. >>
Thanks Becky! I love this line. My dd is only 2yo and loves being read to
all the time, BOOK AFTER BOOK! But I have to admit to already being a little
nervous and concerned about when to teach her to read, how much to "teach"
and how much to just let her learn.
My grandma was a public elementary school secretary when I was a child,
and raised me until I was 6. She would always bring home outdated readers
and textbooks or discarded sample copies from publishing companies. She
swears that she taught me to read when I was 3. I don't remember, but I do
know that I was reading fluently when I started kindergarten. So, already
she is asking me when I am going to start teaching my dd to read. With my
younger sister, my mother read a book on teaching your toddler to read, and
started working with her using flashcards at the age of 2 or 2 1/2. So here
comes the confusion -- yes, I want my dd to learn to read, and neither my
sister or I grew to dislike reading because of feeling pressured at an early
age. But, I can't help but think that my dd might respond differently and I
can't bear to think that I might do something that would decrease the love
that she has of being read to now by forcing her to soon to learn to read on
her own. I don't want to sit back and do nothing, but I don't want to push
too hard and do damage in the long run! Anyone else been in this dilemma?
For now, my dh and I just read, read, and read some more to her. And we also
make a point to let her see us reading things that we enjoy on a daily basis
as well. Hopefully, we will know when the time is right for her.
On the other hand, although my sister and I were both early readers, we
also both seemed to plateau somewhere around jr. high. And neither of us
have IQs jumping off the scales now! In fact, I thoroughly embarrassed
myself a little over a month ago, when in the midst of a conversation
regarding people with very high IQs, I remarked, "Yes, like those people in
Mesna, right?" Oh well - I guess that alone would eliminate me from
membership!
Candice in OK (BTW, I don't think I've ever posted before here. I'll
introduce later!)
wife of Kevin, mother of Abigail (age 2)
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In a message dated 8/15/99 4:01:34 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Cstewart73@...
writes:
<< My niece was reading at a 5th grade
"level" in 1st grade - but she's not reading at a Graduate school "level" in
7th grade, so I believe all these things balance out in the end. >>
Being gifted academically definitely exists. The system is not very well
equipped to handle it and in the process of not handling it, very often
mangles these kids. Imo, the child with a high IQ is just as in need of very
special services as the child with a very low IQ. IQs exist. Intelligences
exists. Different ability levels exist. All measured by humans and
therefore not measured perfectly. But the system is not able, imo, to deal
adequately with the high-level academic needs of some kids and kills them off
in the process.
If a child "levels off" or "evens out" from neglect, this child has been
misserved.
My 2 cents.
Nance
writes:
<< My niece was reading at a 5th grade
"level" in 1st grade - but she's not reading at a Graduate school "level" in
7th grade, so I believe all these things balance out in the end. >>
>>Or the joy of reading was killed somewhere betwen 1st and 7th grade.
Being gifted academically definitely exists. The system is not very well
equipped to handle it and in the process of not handling it, very often
mangles these kids. Imo, the child with a high IQ is just as in need of very
special services as the child with a very low IQ. IQs exist. Intelligences
exists. Different ability levels exist. All measured by humans and
therefore not measured perfectly. But the system is not able, imo, to deal
adequately with the high-level academic needs of some kids and kills them off
in the process.
If a child "levels off" or "evens out" from neglect, this child has been
misserved.
My 2 cents.
Nance
Joel Hawthorne
Unschooling is primarily about process not content. The process of learning, the
process of knowing yourself, openness, confidence, self-determination, independent
thinking, critical thinking....none of which one gets when following other
people's agenda. Making one's own agenda is what it is all about. Again this is
done not in isolation but in the context of ones family and community.
You cannot get where YOU want to go if you are being coerced.....even if the
coercion is covert. Neither can your daughter. Don't sit back and do nothing.
Live your life, share your enthusiasms and give assistance....when it is
requested.
Cstewart73@... wrote:
best wishes
Joel
All children behave as well as they are treated. The Natural Child
Project http://naturalchild.com/home/
Work together to reinvent justice using methods that are fair; which conserve,
restore and even create harmony, equity and good will in society i.e. restorative
justice.
We are the prisoners of the prisoners we have taken - J. Clegg
http://www.cerj.org
process of knowing yourself, openness, confidence, self-determination, independent
thinking, critical thinking....none of which one gets when following other
people's agenda. Making one's own agenda is what it is all about. Again this is
done not in isolation but in the context of ones family and community.
You cannot get where YOU want to go if you are being coerced.....even if the
coercion is covert. Neither can your daughter. Don't sit back and do nothing.
Live your life, share your enthusiasms and give assistance....when it is
requested.
Cstewart73@... wrote:
> From: Cstewart73@...--
>
> In a message dated 8/12/99 9:43:07 PM EST, beckycraigw12@... writes:
>
> << My niece was reading at a 5th grade
> "level" in 1st grade - but she's not reading at a Graduate school "level" in
> 7th grade, so I believe all these things balance out in the end. >>
>
> Thanks Becky! I love this line. My dd is only 2yo and loves being read to
> all the time, BOOK AFTER BOOK! But I have to admit to already being a little
> nervous and concerned about when to teach her to read, how much to "teach"
> and how much to just let her learn.
> My grandma was a public elementary school secretary when I was a child,
> and raised me until I was 6. She would always bring home outdated readers
> and textbooks or discarded sample copies from publishing companies. She
> swears that she taught me to read when I was 3. I don't remember, but I do
> know that I was reading fluently when I started kindergarten. So, already
> she is asking me when I am going to start teaching my dd to read. With my
> younger sister, my mother read a book on teaching your toddler to read, and
> started working with her using flashcards at the age of 2 or 2 1/2. So here
> comes the confusion -- yes, I want my dd to learn to read, and neither my
> sister or I grew to dislike reading because of feeling pressured at an early
> age. But, I can't help but think that my dd might respond differently and I
> can't bear to think that I might do something that would decrease the love
> that she has of being read to now by forcing her to soon to learn to read on
> her own. I don't want to sit back and do nothing, but I don't want to push
> too hard and do damage in the long run! Anyone else been in this dilemma?
> For now, my dh and I just read, read, and read some more to her. And we also
> make a point to let her see us reading things that we enjoy on a daily basis
> as well. Hopefully, we will know when the time is right for her.
> On the other hand, although my sister and I were both early readers, we
> also both seemed to plateau somewhere around jr. high. And neither of us
> have IQs jumping off the scales now! In fact, I thoroughly embarrassed
> myself a little over a month ago, when in the midst of a conversation
> regarding people with very high IQs, I remarked, "Yes, like those people in
> Mesna, right?" Oh well - I guess that alone would eliminate me from
> membership!
>
> Candice in OK (BTW, I don't think I've ever posted before here. I'll
> introduce later!)
> wife of Kevin, mother of Abigail (age 2)
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best wishes
Joel
All children behave as well as they are treated. The Natural Child
Project http://naturalchild.com/home/
Work together to reinvent justice using methods that are fair; which conserve,
restore and even create harmony, equity and good will in society i.e. restorative
justice.
We are the prisoners of the prisoners we have taken - J. Clegg
http://www.cerj.org