Re: The BIG Picture
Becky Wollenslegel
Hello Everyone
RE: You wrote:
"There's a lot of information out there about "whole -to - part" learners.
And most schools teach in a "part-to-whole" schema.....I've heard that whole
to part learners are more rare in adults, wonder if it gets drilled out
during school years?!"
Yep, there was a lot of info when my older son was in public school - They
called it "Learning Disability" I was thinking "How can seeing the "BIG
Picture" be a bad thing? Don't we want leaders who see the big picture?
Don't sucessful adults see the big picture?" But we can't look at the big
picture in 1st grade because we have to concentrate on the letter "A" today!
All 3 of my kids are "whole-to-part-ers", although they did do a pretty
good job of drilling it out of my daughter. Labeled her LD too. How can a
perfectly happy, wonderful, enthusiastic Kindergartener become LD by 1st
grade? The answer was "1st grade is different from kindergarten"
Well, HOMEschool is different from PUBLIC school, Thank you, God!
RE: Susan asked "Where are you in OH?"
We are in Whitehall, a suburb of Columbus. Actually, Columbus surrounds us
as it grew around some of the suburbs.
RE: Lyn Turner said:
"I feel like someone has to stand up for beautiful handwriting, so .... here
I go:-) I remember being forced to take classes to improve my handwriting
when I was around 13 years old. Don't remember my writing being that bad,
don't remember the classes, but I am forever grateful for them!"
I'm not convinced that everyone can "learn" beautiful handwriting. Perhaps
that is a talent or a "gift" that someone chose to nurture in you through
classes. Just like some people are better suited to play the flute and
others the tuba - It's not to say one couldn't "learn" to play the flute,
but if the structure of your mouth is suited for the tuba, then that flute
will never sing like it might for someone else. Since handwriting depends
on fine motor skills, we will always fall somewhere along a line from
beautiful to awful! with a lot of average in between.
RE: Melissa said:
"I will say this, though, it drives me crazy to read things
from people who can't spell very well (postings on this list excluded, of
course <g>). I am a big proponent of learning to spell, not necessarily of
learning cursive. My dad (in his late 50's now and one of the most
intelligent guys I know) spells phonetically. No kidding. He is the
president of a large corporation and writes/speaks fluently but stinks at
spelling. Hmmm."
Good spelling is also a talent not all of us have! My dd became very
dependant on her Spelling Ace because she knew people would think she was
stupid because she can't spell worth a hoot! and her phonics stink too -
which makes it even worse! She had 9 years of public school and just
couldn't get it. There again, it's a "Learning Disability", but I'd much
rather she develop her other talents than get bogged down by what she can't
do. (If it hasn't improved in 9 years - get over it!)
MY CONFESSION: I must admit, my "thing" is bad grammer! I cringe everytime
I hear someone say "We was there" or "Him and me had fun" Maybe some people
can't "get" that either, I don't know, but I've pounded it (gently, of
course) into my kids so much that hearing it makes them crazy too, and they
say it's hard for them to not correct other people. My older ones sure
didn't learn it in school, and it appears alot of others aren't either!
Off my soapbox for today!
Becky
RE: You wrote:
"There's a lot of information out there about "whole -to - part" learners.
And most schools teach in a "part-to-whole" schema.....I've heard that whole
to part learners are more rare in adults, wonder if it gets drilled out
during school years?!"
Yep, there was a lot of info when my older son was in public school - They
called it "Learning Disability" I was thinking "How can seeing the "BIG
Picture" be a bad thing? Don't we want leaders who see the big picture?
Don't sucessful adults see the big picture?" But we can't look at the big
picture in 1st grade because we have to concentrate on the letter "A" today!
All 3 of my kids are "whole-to-part-ers", although they did do a pretty
good job of drilling it out of my daughter. Labeled her LD too. How can a
perfectly happy, wonderful, enthusiastic Kindergartener become LD by 1st
grade? The answer was "1st grade is different from kindergarten"
Well, HOMEschool is different from PUBLIC school, Thank you, God!
RE: Susan asked "Where are you in OH?"
We are in Whitehall, a suburb of Columbus. Actually, Columbus surrounds us
as it grew around some of the suburbs.
RE: Lyn Turner said:
"I feel like someone has to stand up for beautiful handwriting, so .... here
I go:-) I remember being forced to take classes to improve my handwriting
when I was around 13 years old. Don't remember my writing being that bad,
don't remember the classes, but I am forever grateful for them!"
I'm not convinced that everyone can "learn" beautiful handwriting. Perhaps
that is a talent or a "gift" that someone chose to nurture in you through
classes. Just like some people are better suited to play the flute and
others the tuba - It's not to say one couldn't "learn" to play the flute,
but if the structure of your mouth is suited for the tuba, then that flute
will never sing like it might for someone else. Since handwriting depends
on fine motor skills, we will always fall somewhere along a line from
beautiful to awful! with a lot of average in between.
RE: Melissa said:
"I will say this, though, it drives me crazy to read things
from people who can't spell very well (postings on this list excluded, of
course <g>). I am a big proponent of learning to spell, not necessarily of
learning cursive. My dad (in his late 50's now and one of the most
intelligent guys I know) spells phonetically. No kidding. He is the
president of a large corporation and writes/speaks fluently but stinks at
spelling. Hmmm."
Good spelling is also a talent not all of us have! My dd became very
dependant on her Spelling Ace because she knew people would think she was
stupid because she can't spell worth a hoot! and her phonics stink too -
which makes it even worse! She had 9 years of public school and just
couldn't get it. There again, it's a "Learning Disability", but I'd much
rather she develop her other talents than get bogged down by what she can't
do. (If it hasn't improved in 9 years - get over it!)
MY CONFESSION: I must admit, my "thing" is bad grammer! I cringe everytime
I hear someone say "We was there" or "Him and me had fun" Maybe some people
can't "get" that either, I don't know, but I've pounded it (gently, of
course) into my kids so much that hearing it makes them crazy too, and they
say it's hard for them to not correct other people. My older ones sure
didn't learn it in school, and it appears alot of others aren't either!
Off my soapbox for today!
Becky
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In a message dated 08/14/1999 8:57:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
beckycraigw12@... writes:
<< I cringe everytime
I hear someone say "We was there" or "Him and me had fun" Maybe some people
can't "get" that either, I don't know, but I've pounded it (gently, of
course) into my kids so much that hearing it makes them crazy too, and they
say it's hard for them to not correct other people. My older ones sure
didn't learn it in school, and it appears alot of others aren't either! >>
I agree....and it's rubbed off on my dd too. Funny story: One of the
mothers on the rhythmic gymnastics team uses terrible language....her dd goes
to a magnet school and gets all As.....you guess it, the daughter sounds just
like the Mom. When hs/us is mentioned, she says things like, "No way...my
daughter aint gonna be homeschooled...she needs her education!" LOL!
Sam
beckycraigw12@... writes:
<< I cringe everytime
I hear someone say "We was there" or "Him and me had fun" Maybe some people
can't "get" that either, I don't know, but I've pounded it (gently, of
course) into my kids so much that hearing it makes them crazy too, and they
say it's hard for them to not correct other people. My older ones sure
didn't learn it in school, and it appears alot of others aren't either! >>
I agree....and it's rubbed off on my dd too. Funny story: One of the
mothers on the rhythmic gymnastics team uses terrible language....her dd goes
to a magnet school and gets all As.....you guess it, the daughter sounds just
like the Mom. When hs/us is mentioned, she says things like, "No way...my
daughter aint gonna be homeschooled...she needs her education!" LOL!
Sam