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In a message dated 4/12/01 1:36:39 PM, demetria@... writes:

<< So, that's my contribution to the ghostliness. Am I
being melodramatic to think our insomnia and the cat's
yowling had to do with this? Juli >>

I don't think it's melodramatic.

If we were in less isolated surroundings, and you knew all your neighbors,
your instincts would have been more useful.

I was told throughout my school days (and a friend was told in college just
15 years ago or so, so they havne't stopped saying it) that humans no longer
had any instincts--they had all been extinguished, and so we had to learn out
of books, and learn from other people with language, or else we wouldn't know
how to do anything.

Many other things are pooh-poohed because that "no instinct" theory ("fact")
is so strongly believed by so many people.

Teenagers have as real an urge to leave home as a two year old has to STAY
home. But in the two year old it is a virtue (unless relatives say "He needs
a good pre-school to get him over this 'attachment to mom'"), but in the
teenager the just-as-strong instinct is called defiance and rebellion.

We should pay more attention to our instincts sometimes.

(Big tangent to say, "no, you sensed something wrong, I bet.")

Sandra

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<<We should pay more attention to our instincts sometimes.>>

Absolutely! I have learned to save myself a LOT of trouble by listening
to my "gut". I've ignored it too often with negative results. I think
the intstincts were a birth right, what I had to "learn" was to pay
attention.

Kris
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I don't know how many times a friend at a distance would be suddenly very much on my mind and I would call or contact them and find out they were going through a major trial in their life and needed someone there. Just this year, one friend lost his father, and another was going through a messy divorce. I think in our culture we are taught to trust our five impirical senses, but give no credit to spiritual or emotional sense.
 
Johanna
"Education is not the filling of a bucket but the lighting of a fire"
William Butler Yeats
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In a message dated 4/12/01 1:36:39 PM, demetria@... writes:

<< So, that's my contribution to the ghostliness. Am I
being melodramatic to think our insomnia and the cat's
yowling had to do with this? Juli >>

I don't think it's melodramatic.

If we were in less isolated surroundings, and you knew all your neighbors,
your instincts would have been more useful.

I was told throughout my school days (and a friend was told in college just
15 years ago or so, so they havne't stopped saying it) that humans no longer
had any instincts--they had all been extinguished, and so we had to learn out
of books, and learn from other people with language, or else we wouldn't know
how to do anything.

Many other things are pooh-poohed because that "no instinct" theory ("fact")
is so strongly believed by so many people.

Teenagers have as real an urge to leave home as a two year old has to STAY
home.  But in the two year old it is a virtue (unless relatives say "He needs
a good pre-school to get him over this 'attachment to mom'"), but in the
teenager the just-as-strong instinct is called defiance and rebellion.

We should pay more attention to our instincts sometimes.

(Big tangent to say, "no, you sensed something wrong, I bet.")

Sandra


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In a message dated 4/12/2001 10:45:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
saninocencio1@... writes:

<< I think in our culture we are taught to trust our five impirical senses,
but give no credit to spiritual or emotional sense.

Johanna
"Education is not the filling of a bucket but the lighting of a fire"
William Butler Yeats >>

"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful
servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten
the gift."
Albert Einstein

Quotes can be so satisfying. :)

Laura

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In a message dated 4/13/01 3:22:50 AM, parrishml@... writes:

<< "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful
servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten
the gift."
Albert Einstein >>

What a cool quote!!

This is what Howard Gardner (and the similar others studying cognition and
intelligence) is getting at with his "intrapersonal" and "interpersonal"
intelligences. They're never going to be on standardized tests.
Mathematical, and verbal will get you praise and jobs and college. Spatial
helps. Musical and kinesthetic might get you full scholarships, but are
still considered something you do until you get a REAL job (unless you teach
music or dance, or become a coach or trainer). But the inter- and
intra-personals, although supremely useful, are edgy and unmeasureable, and
therefor suspect. Not "real," in the way that production and results can be
measured.

Sandra

Vaughnde Edwards

That is so true. I feel the closer we walk with the Lord each day, the more sensitive we become to the plight of others around us and the more the Lord can nudge us when those we know need an uplifting prayer or even a call on the phone to know that we are thinking of them. Sometimes a card out of the blue will lift their spirits also.
 
Vaughnde Lee
Missoula, Montana
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From: Johanna <saninocencio1@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] the ghost thing (human instinct)

I don't know how many times a friend at a distance would be suddenly very much on my mind and I would call or contact them and find out they were going through a major trial in their life and needed someone there. Just this year, one friend lost his father, and another was going through a messy divorce. I think in our culture we are taught to trust our five impirical senses, but give no credit to spiritual or emotional sense.
 
Johanna
"Education is not the filling of a bucket but the lighting of a fire"
William Butler Yeats
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:47 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] the ghost thing (human instinct)


In a message dated 4/12/01 1:36:39 PM, demetria@... writes:

<< So, that's my contribution to the ghostliness. Am I
being melodramatic to think our insomnia and the cat's
yowling had to do with this? Juli >>

I don't think it's melodramatic.

If we were in less isolated surroundings, and you knew all your neighbors,
your instincts would have been more useful.

I was told throughout my school days (and a friend was told in college just
15 years ago or so, so they havne't stopped saying it) that humans no longer
had any instincts--they had all been extinguished, and so we had to learn out
of books, and learn from other people with language, or else we wouldn't know
how to do anything.

Many other things are pooh-poohed because that "no instinct" theory ("fact")
is so strongly believed by so many people.

Teenagers have as real an urge to leave home as a two year old has to STAY
home.  But in the two year old it is a virtue (unless relatives say "He needs
a good pre-school to get him over this 'attachment to mom'"), but in the
teenager the just-as-strong instinct is called defiance and rebellion.

We should pay more attention to our instincts sometimes.

(Big tangent to say, "no, you sensed something wrong, I bet.")

Sandra


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Johanna

measured by whose ruler? My husband has an uncanny nack to see when someone is a con. I would run in with both feet many times if it was not for his wisdom. This valuable gift has saved us much heartache and finances. Many times the evidence has become clear at a later time.
 
Johanna
"Education is not the filling of a bucket but the lighting of a fire"
William Butler Yeats
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In a message dated 4/13/01 3:22:50 AM, parrishml@... writes:

<< "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful
servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten
the gift."
Albert Einstein >>

What a cool quote!!

This is what Howard Gardner (and the similar others studying cognition and
intelligence) is getting at with his "intrapersonal" and "interpersonal"
intelligences.  They're  never going to be on standardized tests.  
Mathematical, and verbal will get you praise and jobs and college.  Spatial
helps.  Musical and kinesthetic might get you full scholarships, but are
still considered something you do until you get a REAL job (unless you teach
music or dance, or become a coach or trainer).   But the inter- and
intra-personals, although supremely useful, are edgy and unmeasureable, and
therefor suspect.  Not "real," in the way that production and results can be
measured.

Sandra



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<<"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a
faithful
servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has
forgotten
the gift."
Albert Einstein

Quotes can be so satisfying. :)

Laura>>

I love Einstein's mind. I have a poster of him with the quote, "I want
to know God's thoughts. The rest is just details." His thoughts were so
unfettered, the secret of genius IMO.

Kris
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