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In a message dated 4/9/01 11:55:30 PM, HEM-Editor@... writes:

<< >At 4:40 AM +0000 4/10/01, [email protected] wrote:
>hmmm, probably why one of the reasons I didn't homeschool in
>Washington. One of my friends homeschools...and she says the
>laws/system is a pain in the b***!!

Helen H. responded: <<Well.... only if you let it be. We prefer to leave
them alone and so
far (18+ years now) they've left us alone. >>

I think it's significant that the Hegeners are hugely visible, publish a
magazine, have lots of kids, have moved in and out of the state (back and
forth from Alaska a time or two? and other?) and the state hasn't "come after
them."

I registered for the first few years, in New Mexico, but after the first
testing year (when we didn't show up for tests and didn't get in trouble), I
decided not to anymore. Nobody has said a word, and I don't sneak around at
all. I've been interviewed in the paper, by a local TV station and put on
the news, have articles published, am quoted, and nobody (who would? clerks
at the public school office?) has thought "Hmmm.... is she registered?"

All the problems I've ever heard of have to do with people's hostile
relatives (ex husbands, in-laws, the grown daughter of a second marriage when
the wife was younger than she was, in a case in northern New Mexico) have
turned them in--have ASKED for the schools or social services to harrass the
people.

There is a slight possibility, worth considering, that in the same way some
people are approached by bad guys in parking lots and some aren't (the
profile alluded to in another conversation), maybe a large show of public
bravado is less appealing to someone who wants to check up on a looking both
ways at the bookstore before trying to get a homeschooling discount with no
paperwork, etc. <g>

I don't bother to try to get homeschooling discounts. I was given a 20% off
card at borders by an employee who knew me. Sometimes when they ask if I'm a
teacher I say "homeschooler" and they either will or won't give me a
discount. I don't care. I'm already saving so much money not having to pay
for school lunches and replacing lost jackets and buying "cool" binders and
notebooks and clothes that paying full price for books is nothing. Anyway,
we usually get used books (AND clothes, and binders and notebooks!!)

Sandra

Johanna

Right now  in Tennessee we are fighting against a bill that would require the parent to notify the local Board of Education of we leave an umbrella school (private school you are listed on their roll but taught at home), instead of the umbrella school having the burden of notifying them.  A law with lots of potential for harassment if someone wants to. Someone mentioned the public schools lose their fedeal money for each student under an umbrella school and this bill may have been monitarily motivated. 
Johanna
"Education is not the filling of a bucket but the lighting of a fire"
William Butler Yeats
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:44 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Washington state and other tales of non-registration


In a message dated 4/9/01 11:55:30 PM, HEM-Editor@... writes:

<< >At 4:40 AM +0000 4/10/01, [email protected] wrote:
>hmmm, probably why one of the reasons I didn't homeschool in
>Washington. One of my friends homeschools...and she says the
>laws/system is a pain in the b***!!

Helen H. responded:  <<Well.... only if you let it be. We prefer to leave
them alone and so
far (18+ years now) they've left us alone. >>

I think it's significant that the Hegeners are hugely visible, publish a
magazine, have lots of kids, have moved in and out of the state (back and
forth from Alaska a time or two? and other?) and the state hasn't "come after
them."

I registered for the first few years, in New Mexico, but after the first
testing year (when we didn't show up for tests and didn't get in trouble), I
decided not to anymore.  Nobody has said a word, and I don't sneak around at
all.  I've been interviewed in the paper, by a local TV station and put on
the news, have articles published, am quoted, and nobody (who would?  clerks
at the public school office?) has thought "Hmmm.... is she registered?"

All the problems I've ever heard of have to do with people's hostile
relatives (ex husbands, in-laws, the grown daughter of a second marriage when
the wife was younger than she was, in a case in northern New Mexico) have
turned them in--have ASKED for the schools or social services to harrass the
people.

There is a slight possibility, worth considering, that in the same way some
people are approached by bad guys in parking lots and some aren't (the
profile alluded to in another conversation), maybe a large show of public
bravado is less appealing to someone who wants to check up on a  looking both
ways at the bookstore before trying to get a homeschooling discount with no
paperwork, etc. <g>

I don't bother to try to get homeschooling discounts.  I was given a 20% off
card at borders by an employee who knew me.  Sometimes when they ask if I'm a
teacher I say "homeschooler" and they either will or won't give me a
discount.  I don't care.  I'm already saving so much money not having to pay
for school lunches and replacing lost jackets and buying "cool" binders and
notebooks and clothes that paying full price for books is nothing.  Anyway,
we usually get used books (AND clothes, and binders and notebooks!!)

Sandra



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I registered for the first few years, in New Mexico, but after the first
testing year (when we didn't show up for tests and didn't get in trouble), I
decided not to anymore. Nobody has said a word, and I don't sneak around at
all. I've been interviewed in the paper, by a local TV station and put on
the news, have articles published, am quoted, and nobody (who would? clerks
at the public school office?) has thought "Hmmm.... is she registered?">>>
Hi Sandra;
Thank you so much for posting this. I, too, am a "closet" homeschooler because I don't want to deal with the restrictions. So far, so good...
Sheree