QUESTION OF THE WEEK
caroline
I am extremely curious about the different ways each
of you "record" and keep track of your child's
progress, especially those of you who live in states
with extremely "strict" hs laws. All states and/or
school districts hold us accountable in one form or
another. Unschoolers have to be creative in their
record keeping since the curriculum is child directed.
I would love to hear how you go about "charting" your
child's progress and what you show to your school
districts (if it is required of you.)
Thanks,
Caroline
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of you "record" and keep track of your child's
progress, especially those of you who live in states
with extremely "strict" hs laws. All states and/or
school districts hold us accountable in one form or
another. Unschoolers have to be creative in their
record keeping since the curriculum is child directed.
I would love to hear how you go about "charting" your
child's progress and what you show to your school
districts (if it is required of you.)
Thanks,
Caroline
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In a message dated 4/7/01 10:03:57 PM Central Daylight Time,
carolinemayeur@... writes:
compared his progress to that. I have since thrown that list away.
especially those of you who live in states
have a private school option and private schools can operate without
informing anyone. I am keeping my fingers crossed that nothing changes.
Unschoolers have to be creative in their
does, and break all that down into educationese.
Cheryl
Nicholas Academy Homeschooling Resources
http://nicholasacademy.homestead.com
carolinemayeur@... writes:
> I am extremely curious about the different ways eachWhen ds was 4, I printed a preschool thru third grade list of standards and
> of you "record" and keep track of your child's
> progress,
compared his progress to that. I have since thrown that list away.
especially those of you who live in states
> with extremely "strict" hs laws. All states and/orMy state does not require you to let them know you are homeschooling, as we
> school districts hold us accountable in one form or
> another.
have a private school option and private schools can operate without
informing anyone. I am keeping my fingers crossed that nothing changes.
Unschoolers have to be creative in their
> record keeping since the curriculum is child directed.If ever I were required to show progress, I would keep a daily log of what he
> I would love to hear how you go about "charting" your
> child's progress and what you show to your school
> districts (if it is required of you.)
does, and break all that down into educationese.
Cheryl
Nicholas Academy Homeschooling Resources
http://nicholasacademy.homestead.com
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/7/01 9:03:56 PM, carolinemayeur@... writes:
<< All states and/or
school districts hold us accountable in one form or
another. >>
No they don't. Some do, most don't.
Even kids in school (if you have ever seen a "permanent record") have VERY
few records kept on them, even during the schoolyear.
The grade books secondary school teachers keep have a space about 1/3 of an
inch high and seven or eight inches wide for a six- or nine-week session, and
it will have attendance and a few grades, and at the end of the session the
grades are averaged and one grade put at the end.
SOME teachers also have a folder on each student, or they tell the students
to keep one. Those aren't kept after the end of the year.
The teachers will also have a lesson plan book, and so theoretically that's
the information each child was exposed to, and the grade in the book
supposedly reflects the percentage of that material that the child understood
well enough to pass a test, or the amount (approximately) of homework the
child successfully completed, or some combination of those two and
cooperation and participation.
I've known very few teachers (only the most boring and chapter-assigning)
whose lesson plans were an accurate reflection of what happened in the class.
And that is the plan for assembly line education, in which the teacher has
140 kids in five sessions, single prep repeated five times if the teacher's
lucky. We're not doing assembly line teaching, and so we can't/shouldn't be
expected to predict what the child is going to learn or do.
For elementary, there's not much more record keeping than that either.
It LOOKS recorded--assignments on the wall, and summary sheets. But if you
were to go to a school and look at a high school child's permanent record, it
wil have shots, disciplinary notes, term grades, maybe a brief comment from a
teacher once in a while, standardized test scores (5th grade and 8th, maybe),
and that's about it.
Sandra
<< All states and/or
school districts hold us accountable in one form or
another. >>
No they don't. Some do, most don't.
Even kids in school (if you have ever seen a "permanent record") have VERY
few records kept on them, even during the schoolyear.
The grade books secondary school teachers keep have a space about 1/3 of an
inch high and seven or eight inches wide for a six- or nine-week session, and
it will have attendance and a few grades, and at the end of the session the
grades are averaged and one grade put at the end.
SOME teachers also have a folder on each student, or they tell the students
to keep one. Those aren't kept after the end of the year.
The teachers will also have a lesson plan book, and so theoretically that's
the information each child was exposed to, and the grade in the book
supposedly reflects the percentage of that material that the child understood
well enough to pass a test, or the amount (approximately) of homework the
child successfully completed, or some combination of those two and
cooperation and participation.
I've known very few teachers (only the most boring and chapter-assigning)
whose lesson plans were an accurate reflection of what happened in the class.
And that is the plan for assembly line education, in which the teacher has
140 kids in five sessions, single prep repeated five times if the teacher's
lucky. We're not doing assembly line teaching, and so we can't/shouldn't be
expected to predict what the child is going to learn or do.
For elementary, there's not much more record keeping than that either.
It LOOKS recorded--assignments on the wall, and summary sheets. But if you
were to go to a school and look at a high school child's permanent record, it
wil have shots, disciplinary notes, term grades, maybe a brief comment from a
teacher once in a while, standardized test scores (5th grade and 8th, maybe),
and that's about it.
Sandra
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We hosted an exchange student for a short time pre-homeschooling days.
After he went back to Germany, his parents tried to sue the organization,
saying they didn't give enough support. Well, this kid was horrible!!! I
called the school, spoke with the principal (her son and I went to school
together, so she knew me and told me things "off record") and found out the
"Permanent Record" is destroyed at the end of the year. They keep attendance
records ... and that's about it. Even discipline records are destroyed. She
said they just don't have the room to keep everything, and no one really
looks at it, anyway. (I was the first person to EVER request someone's record
... from a school where 94% go to college.)
Kind of funny (sad) that homeschoolers in some states are held to a different
standard than the government run public schools...
Krista
After he went back to Germany, his parents tried to sue the organization,
saying they didn't give enough support. Well, this kid was horrible!!! I
called the school, spoke with the principal (her son and I went to school
together, so she knew me and told me things "off record") and found out the
"Permanent Record" is destroyed at the end of the year. They keep attendance
records ... and that's about it. Even discipline records are destroyed. She
said they just don't have the room to keep everything, and no one really
looks at it, anyway. (I was the first person to EVER request someone's record
... from a school where 94% go to college.)
Kind of funny (sad) that homeschoolers in some states are held to a different
standard than the government run public schools...
Krista
Johanna
it took me a while to figure this one out. I spent many wasted
hours preparing lesson plans we always ended up deviating from and keeping
detalied grade and attendance records. Where we live, all the county school
board requires is attendance and the tests required in fifth seventh and ninth
grades until high school.
----- Original Message -----From: SandraDodd@...Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:29 AMSubject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] QUESTION OF THE WEEK
In a message dated 4/7/01 9:03:56 PM, carolinemayeur@... writes:
<< All states and/or
school districts hold us accountable in one form or
another. >>
No they don't. Some do, most don't.
Even kids in school (if you have ever seen a "permanent record") have VERY
few records kept on them, even during the schoolyear.
The grade books secondary school teachers keep have a space about 1/3 of an
inch high and seven or eight inches wide for a six- or nine-week session, and
it will have attendance and a few grades, and at the end of the session the
grades are averaged and one grade put at the end.
SOME teachers also have a folder on each student, or they tell the students
to keep one. Those aren't kept after the end of the year.
The teachers will also have a lesson plan book, and so theoretically that's
the information each child was exposed to, and the grade in the book
supposedly reflects the percentage of that material that the child understood
well enough to pass a test, or the amount (approximately) of homework the
child successfully completed, or some combination of those two and
cooperation and participation.
I've known very few teachers (only the most boring and chapter-assigning)
whose lesson plans were an accurate reflection of what happened in the class.
And that is the plan for assembly line education, in which the teacher has
140 kids in five sessions, single prep repeated five times if the teacher's
lucky. We're not doing assembly line teaching, and so we can't/shouldn't be
expected to predict what the child is going to learn or do.
For elementary, there's not much more record keeping than that either.
It LOOKS recorded--assignments on the wall, and summary sheets. But if you
were to go to a school and look at a high school child's permanent record, it
wil have shots, disciplinary notes, term grades, maybe a brief comment from a
teacher once in a while, standardized test scores (5th grade and 8th, maybe),
and that's about it.
Sandra
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