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Helen

I loved your post!
I know that unschoolers and h/s whos children are the next *Enstien*
(sp) and have their heads in text books because they want too, have
reason to be very proud. But my dd doesn't do anymore than she
needs, which is basically nothing to talk about!! At the moment she
is watching Titanic AGAIN. (I.. know she is actually learning)So it
was lovelly to hear that your children, who did not do workbooks etc
have done so well. Gives me hope.......

Just as a matter of interest, my ds who did go to school, but was
there in body only and never did any work and never learned a thing,
left school at 15yrs - went from one job to another - bumed around -
and gave me hell, is now a fully qualified mechanic with his own
mechanical repair shop, a wife and 2 sons.

Marianne

Tracy Oldfield

Helen

I loved your post!
I know that unschoolers and h/s whos children are the
next *Enstien* 
(sp) and have their heads in text books because they
want too, have 
reason to be very proud. But my dd doesn't do anymore
than she 
needs, which is basically nothing to talk about!! At
the moment she 
is watching Titanic AGAIN. (I.. know she is actually
learning)So it 
was lovelly to hear that your children, who did not do
workbooks etc 
have done so well. Gives me hope.......

Just as a matter of interest, my ds who did go to
school, but was 
there in body only and never did any work and never
learned a thing, 
left school at 15yrs - went from one job to another -
bumed around - 
and gave me hell, is now a fully qualified mechanic
with his own 
mechanical repair shop, a wife and 2 sons.

Marianne

I'm wondering if she'd be interested in any of the 'how
they made...' type documentaries, or any stuff about
Titanic itself? Or would this be too obviously
'educational' for her? As for your ds, sounds like
late unschooling in action *grin*

Tracy

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> 
> I'm wondering if she'd be interested in any of the 'how
> they made...' type documentaries, or any stuff about
> Titanic itself? Or would this be too obviously
> 'educational' for her? As for your ds, sounds like
> late unschooling in action *grin*
>
> Tracy


Tracy
Oh way too obvious..... dd showed an interest in sewing, untill I
managed to get a sewing machine!!!! She is definetly a radical
unschooler - as radical as they come - just wish mother was as
comfortable with it as she is!!!! But I am learning......

And yes, I agree, ds was a typical late unschooler. he would have
been in heaven if I had unschooled him. He would have spent all day
building trolleys and taking motors apart

Marianne

Helen Hegener

At 12:45 AM +0000 4/6/01, tonitoni@... wrote:
>I loved your post!

Thank you Marianne. I don't usually share that much about our family.
Nice to know it reassured someone.

>I know that unschoolers and h/s whos children are the next *Enstien*
>(sp) and have their heads in text books because they want too, have
>reason to be very proud. But my dd doesn't do anymore than she
>needs, which is basically nothing to talk about!! At the moment she
>is watching Titanic AGAIN. (I.. know she is actually learning)So it
>was lovelly to hear that your children, who did not do workbooks etc
>have done so well. Gives me hope.......

Movies were a mainstay around here, partly because we live too far
out in the mountains for TV reception, and their favorites were
watched over and over and over again until the tapes practically wore
out. I think it was kind of an expanded version of repeatedly playing
a favorite record or something... <g>

>Just as a matter of interest, my ds who did go to school, but was
>there in body only and never did any work and never learned a thing,
>left school at 15yrs - went from one job to another - bumed around -
>and gave me hell, is now a fully qualified mechanic with his own
>mechanical repair shop, a wife and 2 sons.

Sounds like he followed his interests - or his bliss, as Joseph
Campbell would say - which is basically what our kids have done. To
be honest, it's what I've done as well. When I was a kid I was always
writing on everything I got near - filled notebook after notebook
with all kinds of writings. I guess I always wanted a career in
writing and communicating, and boy - did I get one! <bwg>

Helen

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In a message dated 4/5/01 7:11:27 PM, tonitoni@... writes:

<< dd showed an interest in sewing, untill I
managed to get a sewing machine!!!! >>

Give it time.
People do come back to things in cycles, unless pressure to do it NOW creates
an aversion.

Sandra

Diana Tashjian

Hi Helen!
 
If you don't mind, may I ask a few questions? You always unschooled, right? Did you have discussions with your children while they were growing up about the unschooling philosophy and compare it to other options? Has any of them ever said they wish they'd been "pushed" into learning anything? What age do you think a child has to be to be able to really think about these things? Did you ever "encourage" certain learning? I have an (almost) 8-year-old son and I still worry about choosing the unshooling philosophy :o) for him as opposed to his being able to decide for himself... Did you ever worry about what they might want "to be when they grow up" and worry if the unshooling philosophy would prepare them well-enough? I know that supposedly children will what they need when they need it but did you ever worry? etc., etc., etc.! As you can see, I'm in worry mode right now...
 
Thanks,
Diana Tashjian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re Changing the world

At 12:45 AM +0000 4/6/01, tonitoni@... wrote:
>I loved your post!

Thank you Marianne. I don't usually share that much about our family.
Nice to know it reassured someone.

>I know that unschoolers and h/s whos children are the next *Enstien*
>(sp) and have their heads in text books because they want too, have
>reason to be very proud.  But my dd doesn't do anymore than she
>needs, which is basically nothing to talk about!! At the moment she
>is watching Titanic AGAIN. (I..  know she is actually learning)So it
>was lovelly to hear that your children, who did not do workbooks etc
>have done so well. Gives me hope.......

Movies were a mainstay around here, partly because we live too far
out in the mountains for TV reception, and their favorites were
watched over and over and over again until the tapes practically wore
out. I think it was kind of an expanded version of repeatedly playing
a favorite record or something... <g>

>Just as a matter of interest, my ds who did go to school, but was
>there in body only and never did any work and never learned a thing,
>left school at 15yrs - went from one job to another - bumed around -
>and gave me hell, is now a fully qualified mechanic with his own
>mechanical repair shop, a wife and 2 sons.

Sounds like he followed his interests - or his bliss, as Joseph
Campbell would say - which is basically what our kids have done. To
be honest, it's what I've done as well. When I was a kid I was always
writing on everything I got near - filled notebook after notebook
with all kinds of writings. I guess I always wanted a career in
writing and communicating, and boy - did I get one! <bwg>

Helen



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In a message dated 4/5/01 9:58:47 PM, HEM-Editor@... writes:

<< their favorites were
watched over and over and over again until the tapes practically wore
out. I think it was kind of an expanded version of repeatedly playing
a favorite record or something... <g> >>

There's more to miss with a movie than with a book or record, and then
there's the additional factor, true to all of those, of having different
understandings at different ages.

It's easy to understand seeing a movie differently at six, twelve, fifteen;
but there are movies I knew well as a childless adult that, now as a parent,
I see very differently. I imagine when I'm older, have had a child die, have
no parents living, have a retired husband, whatever all, there will be movies
and books I understand at yet another level again.

Sandra

Helen Hegener

At 6:34 AM -0700 4/6/01, Diana Tashjian wrote:
>Hi Helen!
>
>If you don't mind, may I ask a few questions? You always unschooled, right?

Well... our oldest son took a state correspondence course program for
the first grade when we lived in Alaska. It only took us about a
month of reading the textbooks and filling out the workbooks to
figure out that it was mostly busywork, that he either already knew
all that stuff or could pick it up quicker with short explanations
than via their texts. So we skipped most of the textbooks and just
did the stuff he found interesting. He passed at the end of the year
with a special commendation from the overseeing teacher for a paper
mache globe he built on his own. Of course almost anyone can pass
first grade <g> but it showed us that schooling, even long-distance
schooling, was mostly about keeping kids busy.

> Did you have discussions with your children while they were growing
>up about the unschooling philosophy and compare it to other options?

We publish Home Education Magazine, and when our kids were young we
travelled to conferences all over the country, where, in addition to
helping us do workshops and answer peoples' questions, and sitting in
on the other workshops and speeches, our kids compared notes with
lots of other kids, so they grew up knowing about all the various
ways people homeschool - everything from our very laid back approach
to the school-at-home other end of the spectrum.

> Has any of them ever said they wish they'd been "pushed" into
>learning anything?

Yes. Our oldest son, John, spent about six months living with his
biological dad and that dad's new wife, who knew nothing about
homeschooling and was convinced that it was all just a very bad idea.
John came home one day and confronted us with questions about why we
hadn't sent him to school so he could be like "normal" kids... or at
least forced him to do schoolwork and take tests and all that. We
recognized the source of the problem and the reasons for John's
questions, so we patiently explained all the reasons we believed in
this different way of learning, why we had decided that school was an
unhealthy place for kids, basically nothing new, but just reinforcing
what we'd always done. And we discussed it all in front of the
younger kids, because we knew they were interested in what had
happened, and why John was upset, and we wanted them to be able to
discuss it with him, too. (Interesting aside: John's younger brother
Jim wasn't interested in living with the bioDad and the new wife - he
thought the new wife was too controlling and flaky. Apparently my
ex-dh decided so too, as they split after less than a year.)

Right now our youngest son, 15, has been insisting on more and more
structured learning opportunities, books on certain subjects,
computer programs, etc., because he's interested in the idea of going
to college. He's spent some time at various colleges in Seattle where
his cousins and several of our kids' friends are now, and likes the
atmosphere, the ambiance... <g>

> What age do you think a child has to be to be able to really think
>about these things?

I think that totally depends on the child. All our kids have
developed on very different schedules.

> Did you ever "encourage" certain learning?

All the time! From publishing this magazine for so long we receive
incredible amounts of curriculum materials, computer programs, all
the newest, best stuff. And we always make sure the kids know it's
available to them if they're interested. They rarely are. They see
all those learning resources (some of which I think are quite
wonderful) as just ways to trick kids into learning, to make parents
happy, or something. Their BS detectors are pretty refined. <g>

So I content myself with buying - or more often these days, helping
them figure out how to buy - what they *are* interested in, which
translates to tons of books and magazines on their favorite topics,
and tools and materials for all kinds of endeavors from furniture
building to horse training to car repair to gardening to cooking.
They're all hands-on learners - they get interested in something,
like making pottery or stained glass windows, and just dive in and
start doing it, learning as they go. This spring they've all been
interested in sailing, so the house is full of books and magazines on
sailing, we've been watching movies about sailing, they're lining up
adventures this summer with all our friends who own sailboats, and
studying how much a small one would cost! Immersion learning.

We've always travelled a lot - we just spent 2 weeks in California
and Oregon, and we go to Alaska at least 2 or 3 times a year - and
travelling is always an excellent way to learn, especially when
you're able to take your time and enjoy the special places along the
way. And of course they also like computer and video games, movies,
music... all the usual stuff.

>I have an (almost) 8-year-old son and I still worry about choosing
>the unshooling philosophy :o) for him as opposed to his being able
>to decide for himself... Did you ever worry about what they might
>want "to be when they grow up" and worry if the unshooling
>philosophy would prepare them well-enough?

Nope. I never really questioned our decision to let our kids follow
their bliss and learn from living an interesting life - but then I
already knew how well it had worked for me and my brothers and
sisters.

>I know that supposedly children will what they need when they need
>it but did you ever worry? etc., etc., etc.! As you can see, I'm in
>worry mode right now...

Well... I think that's good. Parents are supposed to worry about
what's best for their children, to be concerned about their futures,
whether or not they're doing the right thing, or enough of the right
thing... And now, please don't take this wrong, but I'm potentially
going to get myself in hot water with this list... <g>

I'm not convinced that the kind of totally laid-back, no textbooks,
no expectations approach we took with our kids is right for everyone.
In fact, we don't even advise it as anything to emulate. For those
who find it working, great - we do think it's an excellent way to
live with your kids, to prepare them for all the various
peculiarities of life. But one needs to come to that kind of
understanding about learning on their own, not because someone - no
matter how respected they may be - says it's something they should
do. It's not something you can try this week, decide it's not
working, and go back to a curriculum next week saying it didn't work.
It's not an approach to learning so much as a way of life, a belief
and a trust and a certain surety about the outcome. Not that one is
ever finished learning... <g>

But I do think it takes a certain kind of headset. Mark and I are
both very relaxed and mellow people. We tend not to worry about
things, feeling that even when things aren't going the way we think
they should, we can learn and grow from the experience and figure out
what needs to be done differently to make them go the way we think
they should. Sometimes even that doesn't work out, and then we need
to totally rethink everything... and more often than not we end up
doing something completely different than what we'd started out
doing. That's just not a comfortable way for some people to function.
We've learned that many people need certainty, rules, regulations,
proven solutions, and all the rest. And that's okay for them, but it
might make unschooling difficult. At least I can't imagine how the
kind of radical unschooling we've embraced would work without a
serious amount of flexibility involved.

Hope this helps,
Helen

Helen Hegener

Sandra, this is pretty profound... would you mind if I share it over
on the MovieLovers list?

Helen

At 9:40 AM -0400 4/6/01, SandraDodd@... wrote:
>In a message dated 4/5/01 9:58:47 PM, HEM-Editor@... writes:
>
><< their favorites were
>watched over and over and over again until the tapes practically wore
>out. I think it was kind of an expanded version of repeatedly playing
>a favorite record or something... <g> >>
>
>There's more to miss with a movie than with a book or record, and then
>there's the additional factor, true to all of those, of having different
>understandings at different ages.
>
>It's easy to understand seeing a movie differently at six, twelve, fifteen;
>but there are movies I knew well as a childless adult that, now as a parent,
>I see very differently. I imagine when I'm older, have had a child die, have
>no parents living, have a retired husband, whatever all, there will be movies
>and books I understand at yet another level again.
>
>Sandra

Diana Tashjian

Thank you, Helen, for well thought out answers!
 
Diana Tashjian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re Changing the world

At 6:34 AM -0700 4/6/01, Diana Tashjian wrote:
>Hi Helen!
>
>If you don't mind, may I ask a few questions? You always unschooled, right?

Well... our oldest son took a state correspondence course program for
the first grade when we lived in Alaska. It only took us about a
month of reading the textbooks and filling out the workbooks to
figure out that it was mostly busywork, that he either already knew
all that stuff or could pick it up quicker with short explanations
than via their texts. So we skipped most of the textbooks and just
did the stuff he found interesting. He passed at the end of the year
with a special commendation from the overseeing teacher for a paper
mache globe he built on his own. Of course almost anyone can pass
first grade <g> but it showed us that schooling, even long-distance
schooling, was mostly about keeping kids busy.

>  Did you have discussions with your children while they were growing
>up about the unschooling philosophy and compare it to other options?

We publish Home Education Magazine, and when our kids were young we
travelled to conferences all over the country, where, in addition to
helping us do workshops and answer peoples' questions, and sitting in
on the other workshops and speeches, our kids compared notes with
lots of other kids, so they grew up knowing about all the various
ways people homeschool - everything from our very laid back approach
to the school-at-home other end of the spectrum.

>  Has any of them ever said they wish they'd been "pushed" into
>learning anything?

Yes. Our oldest son, John, spent about six months living with his
biological dad and that dad's new wife, who knew nothing about
homeschooling and was convinced that it was all just a very bad idea.
John came home one day and confronted us with questions about why we
hadn't sent him to school so he could be like "normal" kids... or at
least forced him to do schoolwork and take tests and all that. We
recognized the source of the problem and the reasons for John's
questions, so we patiently explained all the reasons we believed in
this different way of learning, why we had decided that school was an
unhealthy place for kids, basically nothing new, but just reinforcing
what we'd always done. And we discussed it all in front of the
younger kids, because we knew they were interested in what had
happened, and why John was upset, and we wanted them to be able to
discuss it with him, too. (Interesting aside: John's younger brother
Jim wasn't interested in living with the bioDad and the new wife - he
thought the new wife was too controlling and flaky. Apparently my
ex-dh decided so too, as they split after less than a year.)

Right now our youngest son, 15, has been insisting on more and more
structured learning opportunities, books on certain subjects,
computer programs, etc., because he's interested in the idea of going
to college. He's spent some time at various colleges in Seattle where
his cousins and several of our kids' friends are now, and likes the
atmosphere, the ambiance... <g>

>  What age do you think a child has to be to be able to really think
>about these things?

I think that totally depends on the child. All our kids have
developed on very different schedules.

>  Did you ever "encourage" certain learning?

All the time! From publishing this magazine for so long we receive
incredible amounts of curriculum materials, computer programs, all
the newest, best stuff. And we always make sure the kids know it's
available to them if they're interested. They rarely are. They see
all those learning resources (some of which I think are quite
wonderful) as just ways to trick kids into learning, to make parents
happy, or something. Their BS detectors are pretty refined. <g>

So I content myself with buying - or more often these days, helping
them figure out how to buy - what they *are* interested in, which
translates to tons of books and magazines on their favorite topics,
and tools and materials for all kinds of endeavors from furniture
building to horse training to car repair to gardening to cooking.
They're all hands-on learners - they get interested in something,
like making pottery or stained glass windows, and just dive in and
start doing it, learning as they go. This spring they've all been
interested in sailing, so the house is full of books and magazines on
sailing, we've been watching movies about sailing, they're lining up
adventures this summer with all our friends who own sailboats, and
studying how much a small one would cost! Immersion learning.

We've always travelled a lot - we just spent 2 weeks in California
and Oregon, and we go to Alaska at least 2 or 3 times a year - and
travelling is always an excellent way to learn, especially when
you're able to take your time and enjoy the special places along the
way. And of course they also like computer and video games, movies,
music... all the usual stuff.

>I have an (almost) 8-year-old son and I still worry about choosing
>the unshooling philosophy :o) for him as opposed to his being able
>to decide for himself... Did you ever worry about what they might
>want "to be when they grow up" and worry if the unshooling
>philosophy would prepare them well-enough?

Nope. I never really questioned our decision to let our kids follow
their bliss and learn from living an interesting life - but then I
already knew how well it had worked for me and my brothers and
sisters.

>I know that supposedly children will what they need when they need
>it but did you ever worry? etc., etc., etc.! As you can see, I'm in
>worry mode right now...

Well... I think that's good. Parents are supposed to worry about
what's best for their children, to be concerned about their futures,
whether or not they're doing the right thing, or enough of the right
thing... And now, please don't take this wrong, but I'm potentially
going to get myself in hot water with this list... <g>

I'm not convinced that the kind of totally laid-back, no textbooks,
no expectations approach we took with our kids is right for everyone.
In fact, we don't even advise it as anything to emulate. For those
who find it working, great - we do think it's an excellent way to
live with your kids, to prepare them for all the various
peculiarities of life. But one needs to come to that kind of
understanding about learning on their own, not because someone - no
matter how respected they may be - says it's something they should
do. It's not something you can try this week, decide it's not
working, and go back to a curriculum next week saying it didn't work.
It's not an approach to learning so much as a way of life, a belief
and a trust and a certain surety about the outcome. Not that one is
ever finished learning... <g>

But I do think it takes a certain kind of headset. Mark and I are
both very relaxed and mellow people. We tend not to worry about
things, feeling that even when things aren't going the way we think
they should, we can learn and grow from the experience and figure out
what needs to be done differently to make them go the way we think
they should. Sometimes even that doesn't work out, and then we need
to totally rethink everything... and more often than not we end up
doing something completely different than what we'd started out
doing. That's just not a comfortable way for some people to function.
We've learned that many people need certainty, rules, regulations,
proven solutions, and all the rest. And that's okay for them, but it
might make unschooling difficult. At least I can't imagine how the
kind of radical unschooling we've embraced would work without a
serious amount of flexibility involved.

Hope this helps,
Helen






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In a message dated 4/6/01 3:03:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
HEM-Editor@... writes:


Sandra, this is pretty profound... would you mind if I share it over
on the MovieLovers list?


You can share anything I write anywhere anytime!

Sandra

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In a message dated 12/19/02 11:03:34 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< And I know I haven't seen them all,
so feel free to make recommendations!! >>

My sis likes the same kind of movies you do Sandra, and she positively raved
about one recently that was either "Josheph" or "Joshua"...can't remember.
I'll ask her. It must have to do with free thinking cuz as she was exiting
the cultish church we were raised in, she saw this movie and said she could
relate to a LOT of it and I have to see it.
Anyway, maybe you know what it is...I'll ask her again.

Ren
"Knowledge will not always take the place of simple observation."
~Arnold Lobel
Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com

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In a message dated 12/19/02 11:13:43 AM, starsuncloud@... writes:

<< Josheph" or "Joshua"...can't remember.
. . . .
Anyway, maybe you know what it is...I'll ask her again. >>

I don't know, so ask her if you remember!

Thanks. I don't know how to look them up at Netlflix: "Comedies or dramas
about integrity"

no such category! <g>

Sandra

Mary Bianco

Tara and I have seen Dirty Dancing so many times I've lost count. What a
classic as far as I'm concerned. And Resurrection is one of my favorite
movies.

For goofy movies try Hollywood Knights and History of the World Part 1. For
real strange tastes try Transylvania 65000. You will see all kinds of stars
before they were in that one. Our favorite is Kramer from Seinfeld.

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> Transylvania 65000

YESS..loved it.. favorite line " it was the ghost of Estee Lauder"

Teresa


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>From: grlynbl@...

> > Transylvania 65000

>YESS..loved it.. favorite line " it was the ghost of Estee Lauder">>



LOL!!! My husband and I are still known to come up to family with the line,
"Smell the glass, is good no??""

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In a message dated 2/2/03 9:07:34 PM, mummyone24@... writes:

<< For
real strange tastes try Transylvania 65000. You will see all kinds of stars
before they were in that one. Our favorite is Kramer from Seinfeld. >>

I haven't seen Transylvania 65000, but he's also in UHF with Weird Al.
Spatula City. Weird.

I haven't seen Dirty Dancing since it was new at the theatre. I should rent
it.
My favorite Patrick Swayze movie is "To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie
Newmar"

A reviewer wrote: " While Snipes always seems like a man in drag and
Leguizamo never pretties himself up enough (he looks atrocious in a baby doll
nighty), Swayze always looks flawless. It's amazing. You simply come to
forget that it's Swayze you are watching. More than that, he is moving. We
like his character."

It's a really sweet movie. Stockard Channing is in it, as an abused wife.

Sandra

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In a message dated 4/1/2003 11:38:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:


> took my kids to see a pokemon movie at a brand-new theater with super
> comfortable cushy seats with arm rests that come up and there was
> NOBODY else in the theater at all except us at 11 am on a weekday
> morning. Guess what I did. Fell SOUND ASLEEP and, apparently, snored
> loudly.


Ditto. Fast asleep. BIG snoozer! But the kids were delighted! Go figure!

~Kelly


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In a message dated 11/3/2003 10:54:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> Another movie I didn't want to watch in front
> of my kids was "Unfaithful." Marty did come up behind me during part of it,
>
> and I filled him in on the plot to that point. He watched for a couple of
> scenes and then wandered on away. That's a rough movie, but I really liked
> it
> myself.

I just rented it last week and really enjoyed it. Please explain the ending
to me though! It seemed very ambiguous.
I saw Under the Tuscan Sun at the theaters a few weeks ago and LOVED it!
Diane Lane was terrific and it had a great message about following your dreams.
It also makes you want to hop on a plane to somewhere foreign and exotic.
Amy Kagey
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In a message dated 11/4/03 5:41:31 AM, amycats2@... writes:

<< I just rented it last week and really enjoyed it. Please explain the
ending
to me though! It seemed very ambiguous. >>

It was just that way. <g>
When I wonder about stuff like that, I go to google and read discussions of
the movies by people who have already asked all those questions and speculated
(or read the book or script and so they know <g>).

Sandra

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In a message dated 11/4/2003 1:43:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> It was just that way. <g>
> When I wonder about stuff like that, I go to google and read discussions of
> the movies by people who have already asked all those questions and
> speculated
> (or read the book or script and so they know <g>).
>
>

I did that exact thing after I saw the movie and nobody else seemed to know
either! It reminded me of Basic Instinct when the movie ends with Sharon
Stone's hand reaching under the bed..... I once saw an interview with her and the
reporter asked her what she thought happened next. She said, "She killed him,
of course. That's how she was."
Amy Kagey
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cmkerin

Hi Amy,

Unfaithful was originally a French movie and I've been told that the ending was much more conclusive.

The beauty of the American version is that we can pretty much decide what we think they did and debate over it. <g>
I'm not sure that's why the American film makers did that but who knows. ;o)

HTH,
Joyce

ps. I didn't put the French version ending here because maybe some people don't want to not know.
It'll be much easier to find info. on the movie imo knowing that it's supposedly a classic French movie originally.

sonyacurti

Hi all,
I just wanted to say that we rented to movies last night and watched
them back to back and they were great good down home country movies
LOl................

RADIO - which was based on a true story.

SECONDHAND LIONS - another tearjerker as well but theres nothing
better than a good cry every once in awhile LOL........

Sonya,
Attleboro, MA

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> Just as someone wants to get unschooling, it's a good set, I
> think!*********
>

I just brought home Young Frankenstien from our local music/video store.

For 99 cents!!
"That is a bargain for me!" (Who said that? 10 points)
Elissa Jill


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TreeGoddess

Did anyone else catch "Danny Deckchair" with Rhys Ifans and Miranda
Otto? It's an Australian film and unfortunately it didn't get shown
around these parts. As soon as Netflix had it available we rented it
and both DH and I really loved it. It's a romantic comedy, I guess,
but so much more. For a description and some more reviews go to
http://tinyurl.com/4hpo3

I found a trailer online, but I think it really gives away too much of
the film. Here's the link in case you want to watch it anyway. :)
http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/danny_deckchair/

We liked it so much we bought a copy. :) Really sweet movie.

-Tracy-

"Every moment spent in unhappiness is a moment of
happiness lost." -- Leo Buscaglia

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Jenny Altenbach

For 99 cents!!

> "That is a bargain for me!" (Who said that? 10 points)


Eddie Murphy! I could hear it in my head perfectly when you wrote it
but it took a while for the name to come.

Jenny