Question about PS playgrounds
Collette Mattingly
Is there a law about staying off of ps property
during the school day? I occasionally take my son to the playground and
always get asked to leave. It's tax funded so doesn't that give me a right
to use it when I want? If any of you with the teacher sisters can ask, I'd
appreciate it. Collette
Tammy Graves
I do not have a sister that is a teacher, but I understand your question. I,
personally would not be confrontational on this issue unless that is the only
park that you could attend. As a parent, I would look more at it from a
safety/security point of view from the school. One, they have to be obviously
concerned about safety issues if you or your child gets hurt on their property
during school hours. But more on a secondary, any child looking out the windows
wishing they could be your child playing out there, they do not know you and you
are a potential "stranger-danger". Otherwise, if you want to fight them, I would
say, go for it. You pay school taxes still don't you?
personally would not be confrontational on this issue unless that is the only
park that you could attend. As a parent, I would look more at it from a
safety/security point of view from the school. One, they have to be obviously
concerned about safety issues if you or your child gets hurt on their property
during school hours. But more on a secondary, any child looking out the windows
wishing they could be your child playing out there, they do not know you and you
are a potential "stranger-danger". Otherwise, if you want to fight them, I would
say, go for it. You pay school taxes still don't you?
Vicki A. Dennis
There will be variations based on your locale.
There are some areas where it would not even be relevant whether school was in
session or not----the schoolgrounds are for the use of students enrolled in a
particular school! I have run across this concept during involvement with
community sports leagues always looking for practice space. Prohibibitions
are not even restricted to use of district equipment or fancy athletic
facilities but even extend to "open grassy areas".
In my city, visitation to any campus during school hours requires going
directly to the office first (if you can find it!) and the staff there can
decide whether to give you permission to either visit your childs class or
utilize any of the school campus (playground).
Some schools utilize playgrounds that are on adjoining city park property
(students actually leave campus during recess!!). In those cases it is less
likely you would be told to leave---unless you are in an area with a daytime
curfew.
Vicki
P.S.: no, being "tax-funded" does not mean you have the right to decide
means and time of use totally on your own. Think museums, roads, subway
system, state or national parks or forests......military bases for that
matter!!
There are some areas where it would not even be relevant whether school was in
session or not----the schoolgrounds are for the use of students enrolled in a
particular school! I have run across this concept during involvement with
community sports leagues always looking for practice space. Prohibibitions
are not even restricted to use of district equipment or fancy athletic
facilities but even extend to "open grassy areas".
In my city, visitation to any campus during school hours requires going
directly to the office first (if you can find it!) and the staff there can
decide whether to give you permission to either visit your childs class or
utilize any of the school campus (playground).
Some schools utilize playgrounds that are on adjoining city park property
(students actually leave campus during recess!!). In those cases it is less
likely you would be told to leave---unless you are in an area with a daytime
curfew.
Vicki
P.S.: no, being "tax-funded" does not mean you have the right to decide
means and time of use totally on your own. Think museums, roads, subway
system, state or national parks or forests......military bases for that
matter!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Collette Mattingly" <collettemattingly@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:17 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Question about PS playgrounds
Is there a law about staying off of ps property during the school day? I
occasionally take my son to the playground and always get asked to leave. It's
tax funded so doesn't that give me a right to use it when I want? If any of you
with the teacher sisters can ask, I'd appreciate it. Collette
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/5/01 1:08:20 PM, collettemattingly@... writes:
<< Is there a law about staying off of ps property during the school day? >>
Bigtime. Yes.
<< I occasionally take my son to the playground and always get asked to
leave.>>
If you go on weekends or at night they probably won't say a word.
<<It's tax funded so doesn't that give me a right to use it when I want?>>
No, it gives the principal a responsibility to keep it secure from outsiders
(of any age or stripe) and to keep outsiders safe from it.
There are state funded hospitals, but you can't go climb into a bed and play
with the oxygen mask. (Well, maybe for a little while...)
Sandra, former teacher, rules-remembering geek
<< Is there a law about staying off of ps property during the school day? >>
Bigtime. Yes.
<< I occasionally take my son to the playground and always get asked to
leave.>>
If you go on weekends or at night they probably won't say a word.
<<It's tax funded so doesn't that give me a right to use it when I want?>>
No, it gives the principal a responsibility to keep it secure from outsiders
(of any age or stripe) and to keep outsiders safe from it.
There are state funded hospitals, but you can't go climb into a bed and play
with the oxygen mask. (Well, maybe for a little while...)
Sandra, former teacher, rules-remembering geek
Johanna
Who is asking you to leave? Is it the school? Police officers?
Some schools do have policys that regulate public access. I think the laws
would be by the city of county you live in so you would have to check the laws
there.
Johanna
----- Original Message -----From: Collette MattinglySent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:17 AMSubject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Question about PS playgroundsIs there a law about staying off of ps property during the school day? I occasionally take my son to the playground and always get asked to leave. It's tax funded so doesn't that give me a right to use it when I want? If any of you with the teacher sisters can ask, I'd appreciate it. Collette
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In a message dated 4/6/01 11:06:06 AM, saninocencio1@... writes:
<< Who is asking you to leave? Is it the school? Police officers? Some
schools do have policys that regulate public access. I think the laws would
be by the city of county you live in so you would have to check the laws
there. >>
I don't think there is a public or private school in the U.S. that will allow
free access to buildings OR grounds during school hours.
If they let a mother and baby on the playground, what law then keeps drug
dealers or child molesters or ammo salesmen out of the parking lot? If the
visiting mother and child could go into the hall and use the bathroom, what
would keep homeless men from going to the restroom there? Staying extra
long? Sleeping for the day?
It's a slippery slope kind of situation, and the policy is (and probably has
been since the first log cabin one-room-schoolhouses) that during school
hours, nobody else is there.
Sandra
Sandra
<< Who is asking you to leave? Is it the school? Police officers? Some
schools do have policys that regulate public access. I think the laws would
be by the city of county you live in so you would have to check the laws
there. >>
I don't think there is a public or private school in the U.S. that will allow
free access to buildings OR grounds during school hours.
If they let a mother and baby on the playground, what law then keeps drug
dealers or child molesters or ammo salesmen out of the parking lot? If the
visiting mother and child could go into the hall and use the bathroom, what
would keep homeless men from going to the restroom there? Staying extra
long? Sleeping for the day?
It's a slippery slope kind of situation, and the policy is (and probably has
been since the first log cabin one-room-schoolhouses) that during school
hours, nobody else is there.
Sandra
Sandra