12yo going to work with dad
yuli womie
Some smart person ;) in this very egroup told me to
ask myself is it life-threatening, health-threatening
or morally dangerous. Sounds like going to work with
dad is something they both enjoy. As long as the boss
doesn't mind, it sounds wonderful! Juli
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ask myself is it life-threatening, health-threatening
or morally dangerous. Sounds like going to work with
dad is something they both enjoy. As long as the boss
doesn't mind, it sounds wonderful! Juli
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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., yuli womie <yuliwomie@y...> wrote:
Some one asked what I had mixed feelings about - er, is she still
learning - child labour!! - what would the *school authorites* say,
hm I dont really know - it just doesn't seem right?!?!
Marianne - who spent to many years involved with ps.
> Some smart person ;) in this very egroup told me toDad is self employed, so no the boss doesn't mind!
> ask myself is it life-threatening, health-threatening
> or morally dangerous. Sounds like going to work with
> dad is something they both enjoy. As long as the boss
> doesn't mind, it sounds wonderful! Juli
Some one asked what I had mixed feelings about - er, is she still
learning - child labour!! - what would the *school authorites* say,
hm I dont really know - it just doesn't seem right?!?!
Marianne - who spent to many years involved with ps.
LisaBugg
<<She now would prefere to go with dad every day. dh
loves her company, and has said that he gets done much quicker with
dd as she is a good hard worker. dh is a courier.
To go with her dad she really has to be motivated as he leaves home
at 6am and doesnt return untill 7pm.
I have mixed feelings about this -
Okay, let's get this straight. You have mixed feelings about a young woman,
just a few short years away from being on her own, who wants to get up and
meet the needs of a job. A job where she is proving to herself and others
that she's *a good hard worker*. Where she is able to spend an inordinate
amount of time with her <gasp> father. Where she will come to know him in
ways very few of our children now know their fathers. She will have an
innate underdstanding of how hard he works, how he approaches his work,
what he thinks of current events and where she gets to bask in the pride a
father can only show when his daughter is proving to the world she is a
*good hard worker*. At this job she will be out and about, living in the
real world, meeting a diverse set of individuals and making contacts of her
own. She'll come home physically tired. She want to eat well and will
sleep only the sleep that comes to those working hard every day. She'll
learn more about herself and her values and her father than you can write
about in a month of Sundays.
You would deny her this? for what?? More TV?
this child?
Is she still learning????????????? Ayiyiyi
What would *seem right** to you. What is the *right way* to spend your time
at 12?? And who decided there was only one right way??
loves her company, and has said that he gets done much quicker with
dd as she is a good hard worker. dh is a courier.
To go with her dad she really has to be motivated as he leaves home
at 6am and doesnt return untill 7pm.
I have mixed feelings about this -
Okay, let's get this straight. You have mixed feelings about a young woman,
just a few short years away from being on her own, who wants to get up and
meet the needs of a job. A job where she is proving to herself and others
that she's *a good hard worker*. Where she is able to spend an inordinate
amount of time with her <gasp> father. Where she will come to know him in
ways very few of our children now know their fathers. She will have an
innate underdstanding of how hard he works, how he approaches his work,
what he thinks of current events and where she gets to bask in the pride a
father can only show when his daughter is proving to the world she is a
*good hard worker*. At this job she will be out and about, living in the
real world, meeting a diverse set of individuals and making contacts of her
own. She'll come home physically tired. She want to eat well and will
sleep only the sleep that comes to those working hard every day. She'll
learn more about herself and her values and her father than you can write
about in a month of Sundays.
You would deny her this? for what?? More TV?
> Some one asked what I had mixed feelings about - er, is she stillWhy would you care what school authroities would say? They are not raising
> learning - child labour!! - what would the *school authorites* say,
> hm I dont really know - it just doesn't seem right?!?!
>
this child?
Is she still learning????????????? Ayiyiyi
What would *seem right** to you. What is the *right way* to spend your time
at 12?? And who decided there was only one right way??
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--> Is she still learning????????????? Ayiyiyi
THANKYOU.
Thats all I wanted to hear. I am happy for her to go with her
father. I love the relationship they share. I just wanted some one
else to tel me its OK.
Marianne - who obviously doesn't have much trust in herself!
>Lisa
THANKYOU.
Thats all I wanted to hear. I am happy for her to go with her
father. I love the relationship they share. I just wanted some one
else to tel me its OK.
Marianne - who obviously doesn't have much trust in herself!
Tracy Oldfield
She's learning geography, communication and business
skills, 'driver's ed' and whatever else they talk about
while they're on the road :-) I had a bit of the
'child labour' argument with an LEA bloke who came to a
home ed support meeting (totally out of line, I
thought) a few months ago, we were discussion what the
LEA's role actually legally is, and what his job should
be, and he said that it was possible that a child
(well, 14yo-ish was his suggestion) had been
deregistered from school to work on the parents' farm.
I agreed that that could happen, but what if that was
what the child wanted to do? He didn't really answer,
as if what the child wanted had nothing to do with
it... Thing is I know of a family where the son was
asking to dereg cos he really did just want to work on
the farm and the school stuff was totally irrelevant.
What's my point? If she wasn't enjoying going, if she
were being abused (as in 'misused') you'd know. So
while she's enjoying it, what's the problem? If you're
worried about learning, stick a couple of books in with
her lunch :-)
Maybe you need to get used to her having her own life?
Tracy
Dad is self employed, so no the boss doesn't mind!
Some one asked what I had mixed feelings about - er, is
she still
learning - child labour!! - what would the *school
authorites* say,
hm I dont really know - it just doesn't seem right?!?!
Marianne - who spent to many years involved with ps.
skills, 'driver's ed' and whatever else they talk about
while they're on the road :-) I had a bit of the
'child labour' argument with an LEA bloke who came to a
home ed support meeting (totally out of line, I
thought) a few months ago, we were discussion what the
LEA's role actually legally is, and what his job should
be, and he said that it was possible that a child
(well, 14yo-ish was his suggestion) had been
deregistered from school to work on the parents' farm.
I agreed that that could happen, but what if that was
what the child wanted to do? He didn't really answer,
as if what the child wanted had nothing to do with
it... Thing is I know of a family where the son was
asking to dereg cos he really did just want to work on
the farm and the school stuff was totally irrelevant.
What's my point? If she wasn't enjoying going, if she
were being abused (as in 'misused') you'd know. So
while she's enjoying it, what's the problem? If you're
worried about learning, stick a couple of books in with
her lunch :-)
Maybe you need to get used to her having her own life?
Tracy
Dad is self employed, so no the boss doesn't mind!
Some one asked what I had mixed feelings about - er, is
she still
learning - child labour!! - what would the *school
authorites* say,
hm I dont really know - it just doesn't seem right?!?!
Marianne - who spent to many years involved with ps.
Debra Bures
My 12 1/2 yo dd works with my dh about once/week. We have a
pottery studio and art gallery. She helps with cleaning/display, is helping to
build a website and is helping us to redesign our space. She takes her job very
seriously, as do we. What a magnificent opportunity for both of them!!
Homeschooling is a lifestyle--and our family
business is part of it. We try not to
compartmentalize(is this a word?) our lives. This is the most natural thing to
do.
My dd also travels to craft shows with her dad. when my
9 yo dd is able to stay in one place a little longer she'll join in--as it
is--she likes to help with cleaning and display, and has made sculpey pins to
sell. We are blessed to be able to share all of our lives
together.
Debra
Johanna
In response to the farming issue, many Mennonites have a
strong work ethic and expect and teach their children to be able to work
by this age. It is considered normal in their culture. Most families put the
money earned away for the child. In the process they often learn a valuable
trade, such as carpentry or iron work. Personally, I would consider this an
excellent education. If they were going to an "Agricultural high school" Like
Essex Agricultural School in Massachusetts, they would be learning similar
things, but because it is taught by the government is it superior?
NOT!
Johanna
----- Original Message -----From: Tracy OldfieldSent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:33 PMSubject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: 12yo going to work with dadShe's learning geography, communication and business
skills, 'driver's ed' and whatever else they talk about
while they're on the road :-) I had a bit of the
'child labour' argument with an LEA bloke who came to a
home ed support meeting (totally out of line, I
thought) a few months ago, we were discussion what the
LEA's role actually legally is, and what his job should
be, and he said that it was possible that a child
(well, 14yo-ish was his suggestion) had been
deregistered from school to work on the parents' farm.
I agreed that that could happen, but what if that was
what the child wanted to do? He didn't really answer,
as if what the child wanted had nothing to do with
it... Thing is I know of a family where the son was
asking to dereg cos he really did just want to work on
the farm and the school stuff was totally irrelevant.
What's my point? If she wasn't enjoying going, if she
were being abused (as in 'misused') you'd know. So
while she's enjoying it, what's the problem? If you're
worried about learning, stick a couple of books in with
her lunch :-)
Maybe you need to get used to her having her own life?
Tracy
Dad is self employed, so no the boss doesn't mind!
Some one asked what I had mixed feelings about - er, is
she still
learning - child labour!! - what would the *school
authorites* say,
hm I dont really know - it just doesn't seem right?!?!
Marianne - who spent to many years involved with ps.
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Johanna
i would love to do that for a living! How did you get started?
Do you own your own kilns?
where are you located?
Johanna
----- Original Message -----From: Debra BuresSent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:44 PMSubject: [Unschooling-dotcom] re:12yo going to work with dadMy 12 1/2 yo dd works with my dh about once/week. We have a pottery studio and art gallery. She helps with cleaning/display, is helping to build a website and is helping us to redesign our space. She takes her job very seriously, as do we. What a magnificent opportunity for both of them!! Homeschooling is a lifestyle--and our familybusiness is part of it. We try not to compartmentalize(is this a word?) our lives. This is the most natural thing to do.My dd also travels to craft shows with her dad. when my 9 yo dd is able to stay in one place a little longer she'll join in--as it is--she likes to help with cleaning and display, and has made sculpey pins to sell. We are blessed to be able to share all of our lives together.Debra
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