animals
yuli womie
Thanks, Colette, that's really interesting. Our cats
don't go outside for all the reasons the Humane
Society warned us against it when we adopted them, but
for three other reasons, too. First, we love birds and
have feeders, and we don't want birds eaten or even
scared away by the cats. Next, like you said, it seems
unsanitary to let animals who go outside and get into
who knows what come in and walk around on your bed.
And your table and counters when you're not looking. I
walked a friend's dog for 6 weeks when she broke her
ankle, and the dog would walk RIGHT THROUGH other
dogs' poop, and then go home and hop onto my friend's
couch. Third, we have allergies, and it's bad enough
to deal with cat fur without dealing with the pollen
they'd bring in with them if they went outside.
I admire your plans for animal rescue. After we saw a
dying loon on the beach, we called an animal rescue
person to ask what to do in the future in those
situations. She was incredibly helpful and spent an
hour on the phone educating us, just out of her love
of animals. Now we feel prepared to help birds of all
sorts!
But this isn't about unschooling (except in the way
everything's unschooling)so I apologize. I was just
curious. Juli
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don't go outside for all the reasons the Humane
Society warned us against it when we adopted them, but
for three other reasons, too. First, we love birds and
have feeders, and we don't want birds eaten or even
scared away by the cats. Next, like you said, it seems
unsanitary to let animals who go outside and get into
who knows what come in and walk around on your bed.
And your table and counters when you're not looking. I
walked a friend's dog for 6 weeks when she broke her
ankle, and the dog would walk RIGHT THROUGH other
dogs' poop, and then go home and hop onto my friend's
couch. Third, we have allergies, and it's bad enough
to deal with cat fur without dealing with the pollen
they'd bring in with them if they went outside.
I admire your plans for animal rescue. After we saw a
dying loon on the beach, we called an animal rescue
person to ask what to do in the future in those
situations. She was incredibly helpful and spent an
hour on the phone educating us, just out of her love
of animals. Now we feel prepared to help birds of all
sorts!
But this isn't about unschooling (except in the way
everything's unschooling)so I apologize. I was just
curious. Juli
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anything. - Collette
----- Original Message -----From: yuli womieSent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:12 PMSubject: [Unschooling-dotcom] animalsThanks, Colette, that's really interesting. Our cats
don't go outside for all the reasons the Humane
Society warned us against it when we adopted them, but
for three other reasons, too. First, we love birds and
have feeders, and we don't want birds eaten or even
scared away by the cats. Next, like you said, it seems
unsanitary to let animals who go outside and get into
who knows what come in and walk around on your bed.
And your table and counters when you're not looking. I
walked a friend's dog for 6 weeks when she broke her
ankle, and the dog would walk RIGHT THROUGH other
dogs' poop, and then go home and hop onto my friend's
couch. Third, we have allergies, and it's bad enough
to deal with cat fur without dealing with the pollen
they'd bring in with them if they went outside.
I admire your plans for animal rescue. After we saw a
dying loon on the beach, we called an animal rescue
person to ask what to do in the future in those
situations. She was incredibly helpful and spent an
hour on the phone educating us, just out of her love
of animals. Now we feel prepared to help birds of all
sorts!
But this isn't about unschooling (except in the way
everything's unschooling)so I apologize. I was just
curious. Juli
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In a message dated 3/30/01 7:12:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
yuliwomie@... writes:
<< Our cats
don't go outside for all the reasons the Humane
Society warned us against it when we adopted them, but
for three other reasons, too. First, we love birds and
have feeders, and we don't want birds eaten or even
scared away by the cats. >>
We have one cat whom we keep inside at all times. My one regret is that we
adopted her as a kitten. In the future we will only rescue abandoned cats.
I'm okay with this since their only options beyond being rejected are quick
death at the humane society or slow death in the wild. I feel the same way
about dogs but we haven't adopted one because I don't think we're ready for
the additional emotional nurturing they need.
I wish all cats were kept inside, they are a serious impact on wildlife.
Kris
yuliwomie@... writes:
<< Our cats
don't go outside for all the reasons the Humane
Society warned us against it when we adopted them, but
for three other reasons, too. First, we love birds and
have feeders, and we don't want birds eaten or even
scared away by the cats. >>
We have one cat whom we keep inside at all times. My one regret is that we
adopted her as a kitten. In the future we will only rescue abandoned cats.
I'm okay with this since their only options beyond being rejected are quick
death at the humane society or slow death in the wild. I feel the same way
about dogs but we haven't adopted one because I don't think we're ready for
the additional emotional nurturing they need.
I wish all cats were kept inside, they are a serious impact on wildlife.
Kris
Collette Mattingly
I live in an recently overpopulated suburb in
Maryland. Nearly all of the habitat is gone. The "wildlife", what
little of it is left, has had to adapt to living in backyards with maybe one or
two trees. One of my neighbors, and unfortunately I don't know who, has a
cat roaming the streets and I HATE going to my garden and finding the Bluejays,
morning doves, etc that used to perch in my trees, dead by my
tomatoes.
----- Original Message -----From: LyndaSent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 11:11 AMSubject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] animalsOur outdoor cats don't have a big impact on wildlife or the natural order of
things unless you count rats and mice and I'm fine with that. Around here
we have crows the size of small airplanes <g> They buzz the cats and in 7
years the cats have only managed to score one bird (starling) and that bird
didn't belong here (in Northern CA we had scads of birds that don't belong
compliments of Alfred Hitchcock who brought in and turned loose thousands of
birds when he filmed Birds) so whose to say which should or shouldn't be
doing what to whom, if you know what I mean.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <louisaem@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] animals
> In a message dated 3/30/01 7:12:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> yuliwomie@... writes:
>
> << Our cats
> don't go outside for all the reasons the Humane
> Society warned us against it when we adopted them, but
> for three other reasons, too. First, we love birds and
> have feeders, and we don't want birds eaten or even
> scared away by the cats. >>
>
> We have one cat whom we keep inside at all times. My one regret is that
we
> adopted her as a kitten. In the future we will only rescue abandoned
cats.
> I'm okay with this since their only options beyond being rejected are
quick
> death at the humane society or slow death in the wild. I feel the same
way
> about dogs but we haven't adopted one because I don't think we're ready
for
> the additional emotional nurturing they need.
>
> I wish all cats were kept inside, they are a serious impact on wildlife.
>
> Kris
>
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Our outdoor cats don't have a big impact on wildlife or the natural order of
things unless you count rats and mice and I'm fine with that. Around here
we have crows the size of small airplanes <g> They buzz the cats and in 7
years the cats have only managed to score one bird (starling) and that bird
didn't belong here (in Northern CA we had scads of birds that don't belong
compliments of Alfred Hitchcock who brought in and turned loose thousands of
birds when he filmed Birds) so whose to say which should or shouldn't be
doing what to whom, if you know what I mean.
Lynda
things unless you count rats and mice and I'm fine with that. Around here
we have crows the size of small airplanes <g> They buzz the cats and in 7
years the cats have only managed to score one bird (starling) and that bird
didn't belong here (in Northern CA we had scads of birds that don't belong
compliments of Alfred Hitchcock who brought in and turned loose thousands of
birds when he filmed Birds) so whose to say which should or shouldn't be
doing what to whom, if you know what I mean.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <louisaem@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] animals
> In a message dated 3/30/01 7:12:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> yuliwomie@... writes:
>
> << Our cats
> don't go outside for all the reasons the Humane
> Society warned us against it when we adopted them, but
> for three other reasons, too. First, we love birds and
> have feeders, and we don't want birds eaten or even
> scared away by the cats. >>
>
> We have one cat whom we keep inside at all times. My one regret is that
we
> adopted her as a kitten. In the future we will only rescue abandoned
cats.
> I'm okay with this since their only options beyond being rejected are
quick
> death at the humane society or slow death in the wild. I feel the same
way
> about dogs but we haven't adopted one because I don't think we're ready
for
> the additional emotional nurturing they need.
>
> I wish all cats were kept inside, they are a serious impact on wildlife.
>
> Kris
>
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Johanna
actually it is unschooling in its purest form. you
learned about caring for injured animals and good hygene for your animals
because it mattered to you and you will remember what you learned.
johanna
who doesn't seem to like capital letters
today.
----- Original Message -----From: yuli womieSent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:12 PMSubject: [Unschooling-dotcom] animalsThanks, Colette, that's really interesting. Our cats
don't go outside for all the reasons the Humane
Society warned us against it when we adopted them, but
for three other reasons, too. First, we love birds and
have feeders, and we don't want birds eaten or even
scared away by the cats. Next, like you said, it seems
unsanitary to let animals who go outside and get into
who knows what come in and walk around on your bed.
And your table and counters when you're not looking. I
walked a friend's dog for 6 weeks when she broke her
ankle, and the dog would walk RIGHT THROUGH other
dogs' poop, and then go home and hop onto my friend's
couch. Third, we have allergies, and it's bad enough
to deal with cat fur without dealing with the pollen
they'd bring in with them if they went outside.
I admire your plans for animal rescue. After we saw a
dying loon on the beach, we called an animal rescue
person to ask what to do in the future in those
situations. She was incredibly helpful and spent an
hour on the phone educating us, just out of her love
of animals. Now we feel prepared to help birds of all
sorts!
But this isn't about unschooling (except in the way
everything's unschooling)so I apologize. I was just
curious. Juli
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> From: louisaem@...As with anything, this depends on the cat. We've had our cat for 8 years and
> I wish all cats were kept inside, they are a serious impact on wildlife.
so far he has killed one bird. I guess he's essentially lazy :-). Our
backyard is full of birds so even they know he's not a threat.
More or less, he's part of the family and comes and goes as he pleases.
We're lucky in that we live in an area where both our dog and cat can have
free reign. We have 3 empty lots next to us, one with a creek and foresty
area so they have lots of room to roam. When our current pets die, we won't
get anymore because we will want to start traveling more again and it's not
fair to leave them.
All of our pets have been rescues. Our cat was a stray, I had 2 chinchillas
I rescued from a fur rancher, and my favorite pet of all was a rat that I
rescued from being snake food. She went everywhere with me for 4 years,
slept in my bed (only occasionally nipping my toes), and was a better pal
than most people I know. I still miss her!
Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) "I told you I was going to grow up to be a
weirdo"
and Asa (10/5/99) Who says "Fishy swim!" at the aquarium, her favorite place
in the world
http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
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In a message dated 3/31/01 2:09:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
collettemattingly@... writes:
<< I live in an recently overpopulated suburb in Maryland. Nearly all of the
habitat is gone. The "wildlife", what little of it is left, has had to adapt
to living in backyards with maybe one or two trees. One of my neighbors, and
unfortunately I don't know who, has a cat roaming the streets and I HATE
going to my garden and finding the Bluejays, morning doves, etc that used to
perch in my trees, dead by my tomatoes. >>
I have a hard time believing that anyone can know how many animals their cats
are killing. I live in an apartment complex and I see cats snagging birds
all the time, they seem to leave them right where they are, probably losing
interest once they stop moving. My daughter find dead birds and rodents all
over the complex.
If one does some research into the impact of cats on indigenous wildlife it
would be clear how harmful they are. They don't bring home everything they
kill.
Kris
collettemattingly@... writes:
<< I live in an recently overpopulated suburb in Maryland. Nearly all of the
habitat is gone. The "wildlife", what little of it is left, has had to adapt
to living in backyards with maybe one or two trees. One of my neighbors, and
unfortunately I don't know who, has a cat roaming the streets and I HATE
going to my garden and finding the Bluejays, morning doves, etc that used to
perch in my trees, dead by my tomatoes. >>
I have a hard time believing that anyone can know how many animals their cats
are killing. I live in an apartment complex and I see cats snagging birds
all the time, they seem to leave them right where they are, probably losing
interest once they stop moving. My daughter find dead birds and rodents all
over the complex.
If one does some research into the impact of cats on indigenous wildlife it
would be clear how harmful they are. They don't bring home everything they
kill.
Kris
Tracy Oldfield
I have a hard time believing that anyone can know how
many animals their cats
are killing. I live in an apartment complex and I see
cats snagging birds
all the time, they seem to leave them right where they
are, probably losing
interest once they stop moving. My daughter find dead
birds and rodents all
over the complex.
If one does some research into the impact of cats on
indigenous wildlife it
would be clear how harmful they are. They don't bring
home everything they
kill.
Kris
If they're like one of mine, it's probably because they get fed-up
of having their prey 'rescued' when they bring their friends home
to play with... One of ours retired from hunting (yes, we do knw
this) after he brought home a squirrel, and ate it, leaving the
'trousers.' A neighbour with dubious habits told me he'd seen the
cat take a squirrel through the cat-flap, and I didn't believe him
until I found the remains... I can't complain about my cats'
behaviour, we teach them to play, and their play is practice for
hunting, so if they can hunt, I've done a good job...
But then I'm not vegetarian either...
Tracy
many animals their cats
are killing. I live in an apartment complex and I see
cats snagging birds
all the time, they seem to leave them right where they
are, probably losing
interest once they stop moving. My daughter find dead
birds and rodents all
over the complex.
If one does some research into the impact of cats on
indigenous wildlife it
would be clear how harmful they are. They don't bring
home everything they
kill.
Kris
If they're like one of mine, it's probably because they get fed-up
of having their prey 'rescued' when they bring their friends home
to play with... One of ours retired from hunting (yes, we do knw
this) after he brought home a squirrel, and ate it, leaving the
'trousers.' A neighbour with dubious habits told me he'd seen the
cat take a squirrel through the cat-flap, and I didn't believe him
until I found the remains... I can't complain about my cats'
behaviour, we teach them to play, and their play is practice for
hunting, so if they can hunt, I've done a good job...
But then I'm not vegetarian either...
Tracy
Collette Mattingly
Nobody's getting all excited. Maybe you feel
your talking to children but I happen to respect the people I'm talking to and
am simply having a discussion where everyone's point of view differs in some
way. Even children know everything dies, there is no need for
condescension.-Collette
----- Original Message -----From: SandraDodd@...Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 10:58 AMSubject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] animals
In a message dated 4/1/01 1:39:05 AM, lurine@... writes:
<< As far as birds that folks find laying around dead, when I was doing
volunteer work with Bird Rescue, we found that most of the birds that we
picked up at apartment complexes and in the city had died as the result of
eating poison that was meant for mice, rats and pigeons. >>
Some birds just die too.
No, wait--ALL birds die. And those that aren't killed just eventually fall
on the ground.
Where else will dead birds go?
Not every dead bird in a person's yard was killed by a cat, a kid or poison.
Even mice and lizards eventually will die.
(I feel like I'm talking to a little kid, but honestly... some people get all
excited about something and seem to forget realities of the planet. Even if
we live PERFECT cat-free vegan Jainist lives, all birds will die.)
And before people ask: www.cs.colostate.edu/~malaiya/jainh.html
jainfriends.faithweb.com/
Sandra
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Depends on the cat. Depends on the owner. Well fed cats hunt less than
those that aren't as well fed. Certain breeds hunt more. Females are more
likely to continue hunting if they aren't neutered.
In our case, in this area we have crows that are huge!!! They buzz cats and
believe me cats stay away from the crows!!! We only have one cat that is
even vaguely interested in hunting and he is so uncoordinated that he is
lucky if he can climb up and down the stairs without falling on his face.
As far as birds that folks find laying around dead, when I was doing
volunteer work with Bird Rescue, we found that most of the birds that we
picked up at apartment complexes and in the city had died as the result of
eating poison that was meant for mice, rats and pigeons. another problem
was that they had gotten caught in that sticky stuff that some folks put out
and either starved or had eaten the sticky stuff off their feet and then
died.
A good number of the birds also died compliments of children whose parents
thought BB guns and sling shots were cool toys!
Lynda
those that aren't as well fed. Certain breeds hunt more. Females are more
likely to continue hunting if they aren't neutered.
In our case, in this area we have crows that are huge!!! They buzz cats and
believe me cats stay away from the crows!!! We only have one cat that is
even vaguely interested in hunting and he is so uncoordinated that he is
lucky if he can climb up and down the stairs without falling on his face.
As far as birds that folks find laying around dead, when I was doing
volunteer work with Bird Rescue, we found that most of the birds that we
picked up at apartment complexes and in the city had died as the result of
eating poison that was meant for mice, rats and pigeons. another problem
was that they had gotten caught in that sticky stuff that some folks put out
and either starved or had eaten the sticky stuff off their feet and then
died.
A good number of the birds also died compliments of children whose parents
thought BB guns and sling shots were cool toys!
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <louisaem@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] animals
> In a message dated 3/31/01 2:09:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> collettemattingly@... writes:
>
> << I live in an recently overpopulated suburb in Maryland. Nearly all of
the
> habitat is gone. The "wildlife", what little of it is left, has had to
adapt
> to living in backyards with maybe one or two trees. One of my neighbors,
and
> unfortunately I don't know who, has a cat roaming the streets and I HATE
> going to my garden and finding the Bluejays, morning doves, etc that used
to
> perch in my trees, dead by my tomatoes. >>
>
> I have a hard time believing that anyone can know how many animals their
cats
> are killing. I live in an apartment complex and I see cats snagging birds
> all the time, they seem to leave them right where they are, probably
losing
> interest once they stop moving. My daughter find dead birds and rodents
all
> over the complex.
>
> If one does some research into the impact of cats on indigenous wildlife
it
> would be clear how harmful they are. They don't bring home everything
they
> kill.
>
> Kris
>
>
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DiamondAir
> From: louisaem@...cats
> I have a hard time believing that anyone can know how many animals their
> are killing.....it
> If one does some research into the impact of cats on indigenous wildlife
> would be clear how harmful they are. They don't bring home everythingthey
> kill.In our case, we know our cat doesn't hunt because we lived with him on 4
acres for 7 years and in all those years of walking our acreage, we only
once saw him get a bird and we never found bird remains anywhere on our
property. He did get a few moles when he was younger and more energetic, but
he never ate them, he just brought them to our doorstep. I think because he
was a stray, he must've been removed from his mother very young (he was
found as a kitten roving on his own). Often when this occurs, the kitten has
not been taught how to hunt and therefore does not have the skills necessary
to be a really effective hunter. When he did occasionally kill something (1
bird and a half dozen moles), he seemed to not know what to do with it, he
never ate them. OTOH, as far as the rodent problem, we had a huge problem
with rats living under our house and the cat was useless, he was terrified
of them. Even our dog ran away from them.
Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) "I told you I was going to grow up to be a
weirdo"
and Asa (10/5/99) Who says "Fishy swim!" at the aquarium, her favorite place
in the world
http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/1/01 1:39:05 AM, lurine@... writes:
<< As far as birds that folks find laying around dead, when I was doing
volunteer work with Bird Rescue, we found that most of the birds that we
picked up at apartment complexes and in the city had died as the result of
eating poison that was meant for mice, rats and pigeons. >>
Some birds just die too.
No, wait--ALL birds die. And those that aren't killed just eventually fall
on the ground.
Where else will dead birds go?
Not every dead bird in a person's yard was killed by a cat, a kid or poison.
Even mice and lizards eventually will die.
(I feel like I'm talking to a little kid, but honestly... some people get all
excited about something and seem to forget realities of the planet. Even if
we live PERFECT cat-free vegan Jainist lives, all birds will die.)
And before people ask: www.cs.colostate.edu/~malaiya/jainh.html
jainfriends.faithweb.com/
Sandra
<< As far as birds that folks find laying around dead, when I was doing
volunteer work with Bird Rescue, we found that most of the birds that we
picked up at apartment complexes and in the city had died as the result of
eating poison that was meant for mice, rats and pigeons. >>
Some birds just die too.
No, wait--ALL birds die. And those that aren't killed just eventually fall
on the ground.
Where else will dead birds go?
Not every dead bird in a person's yard was killed by a cat, a kid or poison.
Even mice and lizards eventually will die.
(I feel like I'm talking to a little kid, but honestly... some people get all
excited about something and seem to forget realities of the planet. Even if
we live PERFECT cat-free vegan Jainist lives, all birds will die.)
And before people ask: www.cs.colostate.edu/~malaiya/jainh.html
jainfriends.faithweb.com/
Sandra
[email protected]
I just have to comment...we got a goat about a month ago and she sure looked
fat. We kept thinking we needed to exercise her more. We went on vacation
and the pet sitter calls to say "ah...did you know your goat was pregnant??"
lo and behold we came home to a baby goat. Unfortunately she was not doing
well so we began the adventure of looking up everything we could about goats,
raising kids ect. after two days of being in the barn most of the night and
all day my husband the non animal lover in the house says to bring her in.
Needless to say we now have a week old baby goat living in the
house....unsanitary...yeah...learning experience definitely!!!
fat. We kept thinking we needed to exercise her more. We went on vacation
and the pet sitter calls to say "ah...did you know your goat was pregnant??"
lo and behold we came home to a baby goat. Unfortunately she was not doing
well so we began the adventure of looking up everything we could about goats,
raising kids ect. after two days of being in the barn most of the night and
all day my husband the non animal lover in the house says to bring her in.
Needless to say we now have a week old baby goat living in the
house....unsanitary...yeah...learning experience definitely!!!
Erin M
>In a message dated 3/31/01 2:09:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,I said what I did because we have a major over population of squirrels and
>collettemattingly@... writes:
>
><< I live in an recently overpopulated suburb in Maryland. Nearly all of
>the
>habitat is gone. The "wildlife", what little of it is left, has had to
>adapt
>to living in backyards with maybe one or two trees. One of my neighbors,
>and
>unfortunately I don't know who, has a cat roaming the streets and I HATE
>going to my garden and finding the Bluejays, morning doves, etc that used
>to
>perch in my trees, dead by my tomatoes. >>
>
>I have a hard time believing that anyone can know how many animals their
>cats
>are killing. I live in an apartment complex and I see cats snagging birds
>all the time, they seem to leave them right where they are, probably losing
>interest once they stop moving. My daughter find dead birds and rodents
>all
>over the complex.
>
>If one does some research into the impact of cats on indigenous wildlife it
>would be clear how harmful they are. They don't bring home everything they
>kill.
>
>Kris
mice. Obviously, though, not everybody has a problem. They are everywhere
here. I draw the line for the mice when they get into the house and when
they start finding their way into the horses', dogs', and rabbit's food. And
I don't own a cat.
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We once had a duckling that my son actually raised from an egg.
Dougal. Dougal lived in the house, swam in the bath while eating
worms. He thought my son was his mother and would quack wildly when
*mother* disappeared!! As the duck grew, my son and his brothers and
friends would run around the garden wildly flapping their arms
teachimg dougal how to fly...
I did a quizz the other week. One question was favourite smell. My
answere *manure* (not inside though) A good old country smell!!
Marianne - who can be quite eccentric at times
> Needless to say we now have a week old baby goat living in theWow! Cool! Thats me.....
> house....unsanitary...yeah...learning experience definitely!!!
We once had a duckling that my son actually raised from an egg.
Dougal. Dougal lived in the house, swam in the bath while eating
worms. He thought my son was his mother and would quack wildly when
*mother* disappeared!! As the duck grew, my son and his brothers and
friends would run around the garden wildly flapping their arms
teachimg dougal how to fly...
I did a quizz the other week. One question was favourite smell. My
answere *manure* (not inside though) A good old country smell!!
Marianne - who can be quite eccentric at times
Tracy Oldfield
I did a quizz the other week. One question was
favourite smell. My
answere *manure* (not inside though) A good old country
smell!!
Marianne - who can be quite eccentric at times
Ah. yes, but horses' is preferable to cows', and both
are infinitely better than pigs' I think :-)
Tracy - who's eccentric most of the time!!
favourite smell. My
answere *manure* (not inside though) A good old country
smell!!
Marianne - who can be quite eccentric at times
Ah. yes, but horses' is preferable to cows', and both
are infinitely better than pigs' I think :-)
Tracy - who's eccentric most of the time!!
Angela
If it
makes you feel any better, I love the smell of manure too; Horse manure, cow
manure, and sheep manure all smell great to me!
Angela ( who
is appearantly a little eccentric too)
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answere *manure* (not inside though) A good old country smell!!
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Must be the *English* in us!!
Marianne - who also likes the smell of roses.
> Ah. yes, but horses' is preferable to cows', and bothTracy
> are infinitely better than pigs' I think :-)
>
> Tracy - who's eccentric most of the time!!
>
Must be the *English* in us!!
Marianne - who also likes the smell of roses.
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Do you have English blood in you too - or is my theory way wrong!!!
mariane
> If it makes you feel any better, I love the smell of manure too;Horse
Angela
Do you have English blood in you too - or is my theory way wrong!!!
mariane
Bobbie
my sister does too. And sweet grass. The manure smell
sometimes lures me in, too...ONLY from horses, though.
That's what happens with a lifetime of growing up with
the rodeo and horse showing being a special treat. For
her though, she's just always been around
horses...shown them...worked/lived on a ranch, etc.
She loved it and when we are traveling and I smell
these atrocious smells and have to hold my breath she
inhales. :P "It's just sweet grass," she says, "I love
that smell."
bleh. :)
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sometimes lures me in, too...ONLY from horses, though.
That's what happens with a lifetime of growing up with
the rodeo and horse showing being a special treat. For
her though, she's just always been around
horses...shown them...worked/lived on a ranch, etc.
She loved it and when we are traveling and I smell
these atrocious smells and have to hold my breath she
inhales. :P "It's just sweet grass," she says, "I love
that smell."
bleh. :)
-Bobbie
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> <unschooling@c...> wrote:
> > If it makes you feel any better, I love the smell
> of manure too;
> Horse
>
>
> Angela
> Do you have English blood in you too - or is my
> theory way wrong!!!
> mariane
>
>
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With a
maiden name like Beaulieu? (tres francais) Actually, I don't
know. My maternal grandfather was a Greenleaf. What is the origin of
that name? My paternal grandmother was a Page. I don't know the origin of
that name either. But my maternal grandmother was a Lessard which is also
french. I think I am mostly frenchie or some potluck
mix.
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In a message dated 4/1/01 6:33:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
arabhorses_rock@... writes:
<< I said what I did because we have a major over population of squirrels and
mice. Obviously, though, not everybody has a problem. They are everywhere
here. I draw the line for the mice when they get into the house and when
they start finding their way into the horses', dogs', and rabbit's food. And
I don't own a cat. >>
When I lived in a rural area we were inundated with mice. The strange
benefit was an absolute absence of cockroaches. This was in San Diego where
I had never, in 27 years, lived anywhere that wasn't shared by the big brown
roaches. The mice never got into our food supply so my conclusion was that
they feasted on any roaches they could find.
Kris
arabhorses_rock@... writes:
<< I said what I did because we have a major over population of squirrels and
mice. Obviously, though, not everybody has a problem. They are everywhere
here. I draw the line for the mice when they get into the house and when
they start finding their way into the horses', dogs', and rabbit's food. And
I don't own a cat. >>
When I lived in a rural area we were inundated with mice. The strange
benefit was an absolute absence of cockroaches. This was in San Diego where
I had never, in 27 years, lived anywhere that wasn't shared by the big brown
roaches. The mice never got into our food supply so my conclusion was that
they feasted on any roaches they could find.
Kris
Lynda
Oh finally, someone who would also appreciate driving in the country and the
smell of a field full of cows (manure and all <g>)! I love it and the
kidlets all think I'm nuts and that "yuck, cow poop stinks."
Lynda
smell of a field full of cows (manure and all <g>)! I love it and the
kidlets all think I'm nuts and that "yuck, cow poop stinks."
Lynda
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> ---
> > Needless to say we now have a week old baby goat living in the
> > house....unsanitary...yeah...learning experience definitely!!!
>
> Wow! Cool! Thats me.....
> We once had a duckling that my son actually raised from an egg.
> Dougal. Dougal lived in the house, swam in the bath while eating
> worms. He thought my son was his mother and would quack wildly when
> *mother* disappeared!! As the duck grew, my son and his brothers and
> friends would run around the garden wildly flapping their arms
> teachimg dougal how to fly...
>
> I did a quizz the other week. One question was favourite smell. My
> answere *manure* (not inside though) A good old country smell!!
>
> Marianne - who can be quite eccentric at times
>
>
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> Oh finally, someone who would also appreciate driving in the country and theAnd I'm the same way when we pass through an area where a skunk has recently been. My husband (poor city boy) just can't understand why I don't think it is a horrible smell!
> smell of a field full of cows (manure and all <g>)! I love it and the
> kidlets all think I'm nuts and that "yuck, cow poop stinks."
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In a message dated 4/2/01 5:42:46 AM, louisaem@... writes:
<< When I lived in a rural area we were inundated with mice. The strange
benefit was an absolute absence of cockroaches. >>
Roaches tend to need public water systems to travel (especially the big
black ones). When I lived rurally with individual wells and septic tanks
(most of my life) there were zero roaches. In any city with a water and
sewer system, I've seen roaches.
I'm guessing it wasn't mice.
Sandra
<< When I lived in a rural area we were inundated with mice. The strange
benefit was an absolute absence of cockroaches. >>
Roaches tend to need public water systems to travel (especially the big
black ones). When I lived rurally with individual wells and septic tanks
(most of my life) there were zero roaches. In any city with a water and
sewer system, I've seen roaches.
I'm guessing it wasn't mice.
Sandra
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> Roaches tend to need public water systems to travel (especiallythe big
> black ones).*EEEEEEEEWWW. Now, I'll have to start boiling the water before
we filter it... ;)
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In a message dated 4/2/01 12:42:59 PM, vouget@... writes:
<< *EEEEEEEEWWW. Now, I'll have to start boiling the water before
we filter it... ;) >>
No, you're okay---
Not IN the water, but in the spaces around the pipes, in the tunnels, between
pipes. Manholes.
Not all cities, but Albuquerque.
It's gross, and I temped for the city once coordinating something related,
being a dispatcher for the full-time anti-cockroach brigade, which is why I
know more than I wish I knew!!
I think in some big, old apartment buildings they just live in the buildings.
I've always lived in detached houses and usually had cats.
Sandra
<< *EEEEEEEEWWW. Now, I'll have to start boiling the water before
we filter it... ;) >>
No, you're okay---
Not IN the water, but in the spaces around the pipes, in the tunnels, between
pipes. Manholes.
Not all cities, but Albuquerque.
It's gross, and I temped for the city once coordinating something related,
being a dispatcher for the full-time anti-cockroach brigade, which is why I
know more than I wish I knew!!
I think in some big, old apartment buildings they just live in the buildings.
I've always lived in detached houses and usually had cats.
Sandra
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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lynda" <lurine@s...> wrote:
My dd also thinks the *country aroma's* STINK - and is adament she
wil NEVER move to the country..... she doesnt know what she is missing
Marianne
> Oh finally, someone who would also appreciate driving in thecountry and the
> smell of a field full of cows (manure and all <g>)! I love it andthe
> kidlets all think I'm nuts and that "yuck, cow poop stinks."Lynda
>
> Lynda
My dd also thinks the *country aroma's* STINK - and is adament she
wil NEVER move to the country..... she doesnt know what she is missing
Marianne
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In a message dated 4/2/01 9:23:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
<<
Roaches tend to need public water systems to travel (especially the big
black ones). When I lived rurally with individual wells and septic tanks
(most of my life) there were zero roaches. In any city with a water and
sewer system, I've seen roaches.
I'm guessing it wasn't mice.
Sandra
spot them outside but not in the house. Our pet rats thought roaches were
candy so I'm guessing it was the mice.
Kris
SandraDodd@... writes:
<<
Roaches tend to need public water systems to travel (especially the big
black ones). When I lived rurally with individual wells and septic tanks
(most of my life) there were zero roaches. In any city with a water and
sewer system, I've seen roaches.
I'm guessing it wasn't mice.
Sandra
>>We had a septic tank but were on the city water system. We did occasionally
spot them outside but not in the house. Our pet rats thought roaches were
candy so I'm guessing it was the mice.
Kris