Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] christian groups vs non-denominational groups
Collette Mattingly
Bonnie,
What specifically are your concerns with him
being on your list? Are you afraid he'll turn your group in for some
violations or that somehow he's spying on you? - Collette
----- Original Message -----From: Bonnie M PaglialungaSent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:11 PMSubject: [Unschooling-dotcom] christian groups vs non-denominational groupsHello I am Bonnie from Ohio I have been lurking here for awhile and I am very awed and excited about the amount of information all of you are willing to share. I have three children who have never been to ps and after about 5 years of deschooling myself I think I am ready to take the unschooling plunge. I have seen how it works with my children and have watched my son figure out test questions (Iowa basic given for my benefit only) that where never taught to him. So we are here to learn more!BUT: the question that brought me out of lurking was the one about Christian groups verses non-denominational groups. About 2 years ago I helped form a group in our area and it has grown to about 30 families today. We basically came together because we where all excluded from the large Christian group in our area that asks for a statement of faith to be signed. Most of us where not even welcomed to converse with the members once we did not mention the appropriate curriculum. My dilemma today is that the head man of the local large Christian group is now on are email list. He just kind of sneaked in and many of us feel uncomfortably with his presence however we also embrace the word "inclusive". So my question to all of you is How would you handle this person on your email list? Thanks for being here, BonnieBpaglial@...
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Bonnie M Paglialunga
Hello I am Bonnie from Ohio I have been
lurking here for awhile and I am very awed and excited about the amount of
information all of you are willing to share. I have three children who
have never been to ps and after about 5 years of deschooling myself I think I am
ready to take the unschooling plunge. I have seen how it works with my
children and have watched my son figure out test questions (Iowa basic given for
my benefit only) that where never taught to him. So we are here to learn
more!
BUT: the question that brought me out of
lurking was the one about Christian groups verses non-denominational
groups. About 2 years ago I helped form a group in our area and it
has grown to about 30 families today. We basically came together because
we where all excluded from the large Christian group in our area that asks for a
statement of faith to be signed. Most of us where not even welcomed to
converse with the members once we did not mention the appropriate
curriculum. My dilemma today is that the head man of the local large
Christian group is now on are email list. He just kind of sneaked in and
many of us feel uncomfortably with his presence however we also embrace the word
"inclusive". So my question to all of you is How would you handle this
person on your email list? Thanks for being here,
Bonnie
Bpaglial@...
the great thing to learn about life is, first,
to not do what you don't want to do, and,
second, to do what you want to do.
--Margaret Anderson
the great thing to learn about life is, first,
to not do what you don't want to do, and,
second, to do what you want to do.
--Margaret Anderson
Valerie Stewart
My dilemma today is that the head man of the local large Christian group is now on are email list. He just kind of sneaked in and many of us feel uncomfortably with his presence however we also embrace the word "inclusive". So my question to all of you is How would you handle this person on your email list? Thanks for being here,***Bonnie, what does this spy do on your list? Does he participate, argue, put-down, encourage, or just lurk? Maybe he's just curious about how "the other half" lives? Maybe he's going back to his own group and telling them all how you're going to hell because you don't use Bob Jones or Abeka? Hard to say, unless he shows himself. We had something similar happen on another list. Someone who didn't really fit in but wanted to be included for some reason. We ended up having a heated debate and he and someone else left. We were only sorry to see the other person leave, but couldn't persuade her to stay. I would leave him alone unless he causes trouble. Then tell him honestly that he isn't welcome. Maybe you could mention the Statement of Lack of Faith everyone has to sign to be included? :)Valerie in Tacoma
Vicki A. Dennis
----- Original Message ----- Bonnie,
What specifically are your concerns with him being on your list? Are you afraid
he'll turn your group in for some violations or that somehow he's spying on
you? - Collette
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Bonnie,
Is he mostly lurking and the discomfort is just that he is listening
in............or does he post a lot and contradict the support folks give each
other?
Or constantly chime in with how he wants to "understand"?
Being "inclusive" does not mean you need or should change your dynamics upon
the demand of those who formerly excluded you.
Vicki
[email protected]
I would have to echo the same question others have asked, what about his
being on the list makes you uncomfortable?
Maybe he will learn something. If he's determined to see your beliefs and
methods as wrong then I doubt you will have much impact on him but ya never
know.
I tend to be confrontational in situations like this so I would probably ask
him why he was there. I would probably just explain that due to being put
out of the other group you're wondering why he would join your list. I would
be right up front and tell him that I was concerned that his motives might
not be friendly towards the group as a whole.
Kris
being on the list makes you uncomfortable?
Maybe he will learn something. If he's determined to see your beliefs and
methods as wrong then I doubt you will have much impact on him but ya never
know.
I tend to be confrontational in situations like this so I would probably ask
him why he was there. I would probably just explain that due to being put
out of the other group you're wondering why he would join your list. I would
be right up front and tell him that I was concerned that his motives might
not be friendly towards the group as a whole.
Kris
[email protected]
In a message dated 03/29/2001 2:44:34 AM !!!First Boot!!!, vlos@... writes:
LOL!
Hey, maybe he needs to listen in here for a while. First the porno and now
no Bob Jones!! Shocking! :)
Nance
Maybe he's going back to his own group and telling them all how you're going
to hell because you don't use Bob Jones or Abeka?
LOL!
Hey, maybe he needs to listen in here for a while. First the porno and now
no Bob Jones!! Shocking! :)
Nance
Johanna
is he making negative postings, or is it just
because you know he is there and disagrees with you? Is it possible he wants to
see what is working?
Johanna
----- Original Message -----From: Bonnie M PaglialungaSent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:11 PMSubject: [Unschooling-dotcom] christian groups vs non-denominational groupsHello I am Bonnie from Ohio I have been lurking here for awhile and I am very awed and excited about the amount of information all of you are willing to share. I have three children who have never been to ps and after about 5 years of deschooling myself I think I am ready to take the unschooling plunge. I have seen how it works with my children and have watched my son figure out test questions (Iowa basic given for my benefit only) that where never taught to him. So we are here to learn more!BUT: the question that brought me out of lurking was the one about Christian groups verses non-denominational groups. About 2 years ago I helped form a group in our area and it has grown to about 30 families today. We basically came together because we where all excluded from the large Christian group in our area that asks for a statement of faith to be signed. Most of us where not even welcomed to converse with the members once we did not mention the appropriate curriculum. My dilemma today is that the head man of the local large Christian group is now on are email list. He just kind of sneaked in and many of us feel uncomfortably with his presence however we also embrace the word "inclusive". So my question to all of you is How would you handle this person on your email list? Thanks for being here, BonnieBpaglial@...
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to not do what you don't want to do, and,
second, to do what you want to do.
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Bobbie
maybe he's just considering a change of heart himself.
Maybe he just wants to know what it's all about over
there in your happy group and gain some tips to make
his group a bit more user friendly. Put on a really
good "show" for him and set a lovely example and see
what happens. That's my two cents...right now anyway.
But it's the middle of the night and insomnia eats
away at my gray matter, so maybe I'm wrong. :)
-Bobbie
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Maybe he just wants to know what it's all about over
there in your happy group and gain some tips to make
his group a bit more user friendly. Put on a really
good "show" for him and set a lovely example and see
what happens. That's my two cents...right now anyway.
But it's the middle of the night and insomnia eats
away at my gray matter, so maybe I'm wrong. :)
-Bobbie
--- Collette Mattingly <collettemattingly@...>
wrote:
> Bonnie,__________________________________________________
> What specifically are your concerns with him being
> on your list? Are you afraid he'll turn your group
> in for some violations or that somehow he's spying
> on you? - Collette
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bonnie M Paglialunga
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:11 PM
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] christian groups vs
> non-denominational groups
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> Hello I am Bonnie from Ohio I have been lurking
> here for awhile and I am very awed and excited about
> the amount of information all of you are willing to
> share. I have three children who have never been to
> ps and after about 5 years of deschooling myself I
> think I am ready to take the unschooling plunge. I
> have seen how it works with my children and have
> watched my son figure out test questions (Iowa basic
> given for my benefit only) that where never taught
> to him. So we are here to learn more!
> BUT: the question that brought me out of lurking
> was the one about Christian groups verses
> non-denominational groups. About 2 years ago I
> helped form a group in our area and it has grown to
> about 30 families today. We basically came together
> because we where all excluded from the large
> Christian group in our area that asks for a
> statement of faith to be signed. Most of us where
> not even welcomed to converse with the members once
> we did not mention the appropriate curriculum. My
> dilemma today is that the head man of the local
> large Christian group is now on are email list. He
> just kind of sneaked in and many of us feel
> uncomfortably with his presence however we also
> embrace the word "inclusive". So my question to all
> of you is How would you handle this person on your
> email list? Thanks for being here, Bonnie
>
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> second, to do what you want to do.
> --Margaret Anderson
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