Unschooling leader
Sherry Hagen
Hi Folks,
Thanks for all the resources. I'm gradually becoming an "unschooling
leader" in this community. I guess what is really happening is folks
are starting to notice more where their child is at and not be as afraid
to veer from their curriculum. I think what schooling our children is
all about is just an extension of parenting and noticing what our
children want to find out and facilitating it.
My son, who will be 7 the end of May has never had "reading lessons".
However, on his own he does a lot of things that they try and drill
children on or have repetitive workbook sheets. The other day he came
up to me and said, "Harry Potter is 4 words." I paused a second, "Oh
your right, it does sound like Harry Potter is 4 words that's because it
is 4 syllables." Now he's noticing the syllable in words and pointing
it out. One of my friends had worksheets where the child had to divide
the syllables at the double consents. It was a whole page of them,
why? I think when the brain is ready it will start noticing and reading
will naturally occur. I'm glad I'm not using a curriculum.
Sherry
Thanks for all the resources. I'm gradually becoming an "unschooling
leader" in this community. I guess what is really happening is folks
are starting to notice more where their child is at and not be as afraid
to veer from their curriculum. I think what schooling our children is
all about is just an extension of parenting and noticing what our
children want to find out and facilitating it.
My son, who will be 7 the end of May has never had "reading lessons".
However, on his own he does a lot of things that they try and drill
children on or have repetitive workbook sheets. The other day he came
up to me and said, "Harry Potter is 4 words." I paused a second, "Oh
your right, it does sound like Harry Potter is 4 words that's because it
is 4 syllables." Now he's noticing the syllable in words and pointing
it out. One of my friends had worksheets where the child had to divide
the syllables at the double consents. It was a whole page of them,
why? I think when the brain is ready it will start noticing and reading
will naturally occur. I'm glad I'm not using a curriculum.
Sherry
Samantha Stopple
> TheThis is so way cool! My Dh took a work shop by Tony
> other day he came
> up to me and said, "Harry Potter is 4 words." I
> paused a second, "Oh
> your right, it does sound like Harry Potter is 4
> words that's because it
> is 4 syllables."
Tenfingers. The class was actually the basis for earth
based mentoring/mentoring in nature. He spoke about
the idea of saying kids are right. (even when they are
"wrong") You do it exactly like you did and give some
extra information that they take with them.
His feeling was in our western culture the reason
children need to rebel is we say they are wrong too
much. So when they grow up and want to be different
from their parents then their parents must be
wrong.(If they want to be right)
I have been working on this with my kids. It's was
great to see you took the time to give that you're
right answer!
Samantha
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A. Yates
I have been taking my kids (ages 8, 6 & 4) to a science class each week. The
teacher is wonderful!! I especially love how no one is ever wrong! She
finds a way to make each statement or offered answer "right". She is
exceptionally good at it, and I know from trying that is is very hard! What
an interesting point this is...
A
Samantha Stopple wrote:
teacher is wonderful!! I especially love how no one is ever wrong! She
finds a way to make each statement or offered answer "right". She is
exceptionally good at it, and I know from trying that is is very hard! What
an interesting point this is...
A
Samantha Stopple wrote:
> > The
> > other day he came
> > up to me and said, "Harry Potter is 4 words." I
> > paused a second, "Oh
> > your right, it does sound like Harry Potter is 4
> > words that's because it
> > is 4 syllables."
>
> This is so way cool! My Dh took a work shop by Tony
> Tenfingers. The class was actually the basis for earth
> based mentoring/mentoring in nature. He spoke about
> the idea of saying kids are right. (even when they are
> "wrong") You do it exactly like you did and give some
> extra information that they take with them.
>
> His feeling was in our western culture the reason
> children need to rebel is we say they are wrong too
> much. So when they grow up and want to be different
> from their parents then their parents must be
> wrong.(If they want to be right)
>
> I have been working on this with my kids. It's was
> great to see you took the time to give that you're
> right answer!
>
> Samantha
>
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In a message dated 3/11/2001 8:30:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
sammimag@... writes:
sammimag@... writes:
. He spoke about
the idea of saying kids are right. (even when they are
"wrong") You do it exactly like you did and give some
extra information that they take with them.
You can do that with "yes" instead of no, too.
"Can we go to the movies?"
Yes, later this week. Today we have to do X...
"Can I have cookies?"
Yes, after dinner.
Sandra
Karen
> You can do that with "yes" instead of no, too.I can't remember whether this is something Faber & Mazlish recommended, or whether it was Barbara Coloroso... but in any event, it doesn't work with my oldest. If the answer isn't "Yes, NOW" then the answer means "No, never, not in your lifetime," even if we say, "Yes, after ..." Makes for a frustrating time.
>
> "Can we go to the movies?"
> Yes, later this week. Today we have to do X...
>
> "Can I have cookies?"
> Yes, after dinner.
Karen
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Vicki A. Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen" <careermom@...>
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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling leader
... but in any event, it doesn't work with my oldest. If the answer isn't "Yes,
NOW" then the answer means "No, never, not in your lifetime," even if we say,
"Yes, after ..." Makes for a frustrating time.
>
> Karen
Hugs to Karen. My oldest (born in '79) seems to have finally moved past this
particular part of his personality.
But I definitely remember wondering about the ways language seem to process for
different folks.
BTW, I seem to remember thinking his view of the answer "yes, later" meaning
"no, never, not in your lifetime" went on to include "beyond this lifetime"
LOL.
This trait of his also carried over to hie view of "practicing" and "learning".
Whether it was sports, speaking English aloud, writing anything on paper,
spelling...................if he did not perform perfectly (in HIS
perfectionist view) the very first attempt then he was sure that never, ever
would he be able to achieve whatever task was set before him---by self or
others.
Definitely makes for a frustrating time both for children and those who love
them. Just another instance of no one size fits all! Keep trying to find
what works for both of you.........it gets better.
Vicki
Samantha Stopple
>You are so Right! ;)
> You can do that with "yes" instead of no, too.
>
> "Can we go to the movies?"
> Yes, later this week. Today we have to do X...
>
It's something I am trying to pay attention to as
well. I tend to fall into the 'no not now camp'
instead of the 'yes tomorrow camp' but I am learning.
As well as subtle you are wrong responses instead of
the you're right ones.
> "Can I have cookies?"But does it mean they(being the kids) are always happy
> Yes, after dinner.
to wait? It's not my experience even when stated
positively.
Samantha
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Tracy Oldfield
> "Can I have cookies?"But does it mean they(being the kids) are always happy
> Yes, after dinner.
to wait? It's not my experience even when stated
positively.
Samantha
No, they aren't always happy to wait, but this does at
least allow discussion about why the cookies need to be
left for after dinner, or even if they do. 'No' in our
house tends to generate squabbling and 'tantrums.'
Sometimes, I can get away with 'no, because...' but
that's unusual (though less unusual recently, but only
because I simply haven't had the energy to do stuff
with 'em.)
Tracy
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In a message dated 3/11/2001 6:29:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
sammimag@... writes:
sammimag@... writes:
> "Can I have cookies?"
> Yes, after dinner.
But does it mean they(being the kids) are always happy
to wait? It's not my experience even when stated
positively.
If you say "NO" there's nothing to wait for.
At my house, they can have cookies when they want to, so it was more a
theoretical example.
But about other waiting situations, they're usually willing to wait.
If I say "yes" and then don't deliver, pretty soon they won't trust me and
I'll be in the life-ruining range of "Mom doesn't do what she says she'll do"
and they'll quit asking. I have to be careful only to say "yes" when I mean
yes--and to hold myself to my word.
But when the answer is "later" then it can be worded in a positive way
instead of a negative one.
Sandra