various things from the last digest
Sandra Dodd
<< I don't want to appear ignorant :-) but is this seriously ok to do?? The
video games, I mean. He doesn't want to read when he wakes up. >>
Are you afraid the inspector will come? The inspector isn't coming.
Or do you mean will the video games beam him to another planet while you're asleep? Not in my experience.
<<Oh dear! I still have a long way to go - I still tend to think
*school* between 9 & 3 and *school holidays* when the ps are on
holiday.
I do only *think* that way - we dont *DO* school.............>>
When I was first homeschooling, when Kirby was five, I tended to review at the end of the day and feel good that
he had done some cool stuff--better most days than if he'd been in school. And if he learned things late at night
or on weekends I was REALLY thrilled, but things were better when I stopped knowing or caring when things
were learned. It took a while, but if you can get over it I recommend it.
<<Well, don't beat yourself up too much! :) 9-3 is when most things are open
and when I am alive. And "school holidays" come into the plan when we want
to include non-hsed kiddos.>>
My kids like it when school is out, so their friends can come over. But when we're out at parks or museums,
they dread seeing a bus coming, or the cringe when school's out and droves of kids show up all at once
somewhere.
<<I firmly believe the Underground History of American Education by John
Taylor Gatto is a must read. It will help tremendously in explaining to
"educator" type family & friends why we don't want to send our kids to
school.>>
It's quite a Yankee history of American Education. My parents and grandparents wend to one-room
schoolhouses in west Texas and southern New Mexico, and it was quite a different deal. What he writes is true
as far as it goes, but it doesn't go everywhere in space and time, not even everywhere in the U.S.
<<I do often get counter arguments fromother people. They argue that homeschooled children are very precious
while young, but they often turn into odd maladapted adults who struggle in their relationships.>>
Ask them to name one, just one, by name. <g> "Often" indeed...
<<What do you do to ensure that your child's social development does not fall
behind his peers at school??>>
What you do is get to know some homeschoolers so you get over the worry, and then remember or get to know
some schooled kids (if your memories are wiped out) to remember that there is no age-appropriate social
development chart that all kids in school are "not behind"--each person develops differently. There are twelve
year olds with more social skill and understanding than most adults
video games, I mean. He doesn't want to read when he wakes up. >>
Are you afraid the inspector will come? The inspector isn't coming.
Or do you mean will the video games beam him to another planet while you're asleep? Not in my experience.
<<Oh dear! I still have a long way to go - I still tend to think
*school* between 9 & 3 and *school holidays* when the ps are on
holiday.
I do only *think* that way - we dont *DO* school.............>>
When I was first homeschooling, when Kirby was five, I tended to review at the end of the day and feel good that
he had done some cool stuff--better most days than if he'd been in school. And if he learned things late at night
or on weekends I was REALLY thrilled, but things were better when I stopped knowing or caring when things
were learned. It took a while, but if you can get over it I recommend it.
<<Well, don't beat yourself up too much! :) 9-3 is when most things are open
and when I am alive. And "school holidays" come into the plan when we want
to include non-hsed kiddos.>>
My kids like it when school is out, so their friends can come over. But when we're out at parks or museums,
they dread seeing a bus coming, or the cringe when school's out and droves of kids show up all at once
somewhere.
<<I firmly believe the Underground History of American Education by John
Taylor Gatto is a must read. It will help tremendously in explaining to
"educator" type family & friends why we don't want to send our kids to
school.>>
It's quite a Yankee history of American Education. My parents and grandparents wend to one-room
schoolhouses in west Texas and southern New Mexico, and it was quite a different deal. What he writes is true
as far as it goes, but it doesn't go everywhere in space and time, not even everywhere in the U.S.
<<I do often get counter arguments fromother people. They argue that homeschooled children are very precious
while young, but they often turn into odd maladapted adults who struggle in their relationships.>>
Ask them to name one, just one, by name. <g> "Often" indeed...
<<What do you do to ensure that your child's social development does not fall
behind his peers at school??>>
What you do is get to know some homeschoolers so you get over the worry, and then remember or get to know
some schooled kids (if your memories are wiped out) to remember that there is no age-appropriate social
development chart that all kids in school are "not behind"--each person develops differently. There are twelve
year olds with more social skill and understanding than most adults
[email protected]
In a message dated 01/17/2001 7:50:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
<< My kids like it when school is out, so their friends can come over. But
when we're out at parks or museums,
they dread seeing a bus coming, or the cringe when school's out and droves
of kids show up all at once
somewhere.
Teri
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SandraDodd@... writes:
<< My kids like it when school is out, so their friends can come over. But
when we're out at parks or museums,
they dread seeing a bus coming, or the cringe when school's out and droves
of kids show up all at once
somewhere.
>>I thought it was just mine....Frankly they would rather just leave!
Teri
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April Spitzer
>From: unschoolr2@...Yep. It really takes the wind out of our sails when we're at the playground
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] various things from the last digest
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:42:55 EST
>
>In a message dated 01/17/2001 7:50:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>SandraDodd@... writes:
>
><< My kids like it when school is out, so their friends can come over. But
>when we're out at parks or museums,
> they dread seeing a bus coming, or the cringe when school's out and
>droves
>of kids show up all at once
> somewhere.
> >>
>I thought it was just mine....Frankly they would rather just leave!
>Teri
>
and a bunch of wild kids run in and take over all of the equipment.
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> <<I firmly believe the Underground History of American Education by JohnI went to search for this book on Amazon and could not find it. Is this the
> Taylor Gatto is a must read. It will help tremendously in explaining to
> "educator" type family & friends why we don't want to send our kids to
> school.>>
correct title? Any hints on where I can find it? I liked his other book,
"Dumbing Us Down" and would be interested to read this one if I could get my
hands on it.
Thanks very much, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
April Spitzer
Yeah, I have the same question. I couldn't find that title either.
April
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>From: "Ashley" <aharvie@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Gatto Book title?
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:43 -0800
>
> > <<I firmly believe the Underground History of American Education by John
> > Taylor Gatto is a must read. It will help tremendously in explaining to
> > "educator" type family & friends why we don't want to send our kids to
> > school.>>
>
>I went to search for this book on Amazon and could not find it. Is this the
>correct title? Any hints on where I can find it? I liked his other book,
>"Dumbing Us Down" and would be interested to read this one if I could get
>my
>hands on it.
>
>Thanks very much, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
>
>
>
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>this the correct title? Any hints on where I can find it? I liked his
> I went to search for this book on Amazon and could not find it. Is
other book, "Dumbing Us Down" and would be interested to read this
one if I could get my hands on it.
>Ashley,
> Thanks very much, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
Fun Books is where I bought my copy of the Underground History of
American Education. As far as I know you won't find it at any of the
big bookstores. Mr. Gatto published the book himself (I've heard he
didn't want to pare it down to what publishers wanted). A link to
the Fun Books site is below:
http://www.fun-books.com/specials.htm
Happy reading!
Cara
Sandi & Scott Spaeth
At 04:45 PM 1/18/01 -0500, you wrote:
Education" By Gatto
However, I am not sure if it has been released yet. I have a "Authors
Special Pre Publication Edition" that I just happened upon at the
library. My husband loved it so much that he wanted me to buy it, but when
I called the book store they did not even have it in their system.
I know it had been offered early through the Homeschool Newslink paper
(www.homeschoolnewslink.com) but I just went there and it is not on the
page. I did just find his own web site
though, http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/ where it does have the book listed.
This book is HUGE too. It looks like a soft covered college textbook. It
is very in depth on the history and twisted philosophies behind public
education. We did not agree with some of the things he said, but for 98%
of the book I think he is right on the mark.
Hope that helps!
Sandi
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>Yeah, I have the same question. I couldn't find that title either.That is the title of the book "The Underground History of American
>
>April
Education" By Gatto
However, I am not sure if it has been released yet. I have a "Authors
Special Pre Publication Edition" that I just happened upon at the
library. My husband loved it so much that he wanted me to buy it, but when
I called the book store they did not even have it in their system.
I know it had been offered early through the Homeschool Newslink paper
(www.homeschoolnewslink.com) but I just went there and it is not on the
page. I did just find his own web site
though, http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/ where it does have the book listed.
This book is HUGE too. It looks like a soft covered college textbook. It
is very in depth on the history and twisted philosophies behind public
education. We did not agree with some of the things he said, but for 98%
of the book I think he is right on the mark.
Hope that helps!
Sandi
> >From: "Ashley" <aharvie@...>--------------------------------------------------------------
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Gatto Book title?
> >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:43 -0800
> >
> > > <<I firmly believe the Underground History of American Education by John
> > > Taylor Gatto is a must read. It will help tremendously in explaining to
> > > "educator" type family & friends why we don't want to send our kids to
> > > school.>>
> >
> >I went to search for this book on Amazon and could not find it. Is this the
> >correct title? Any hints on where I can find it? I liked his other book,
> >"Dumbing Us Down" and would be interested to read this one if I could get
> >my
> >hands on it.
> >
> >Thanks very much, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
> >
> >
> >
>
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Susan (mother to 5 in Fla)
I couldn't remember where I'd gotten my copy & wanted to get one for my
sister in law. Barnes & Nobles ordered it for me. So I know the big stores
can get it, just won't find it in stock.
sister in law. Barnes & Nobles ordered it for me. So I know the big stores
can get it, just won't find it in stock.
David Albert
You've got the title correct, but it is privately published, and so not
available through bookstores and Amazon, etc.
You can get copies from New Society Publishers (www.newsociety.com or
1-800-567-6772) or through Holt/Growing Without Schooling (www.holtgws.com)
david
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intellectual tour de force." --Joseph Chilton Pearce. To read a sample chapter
of "And the Skylark Sings with Me", or for ordering or author tour information,
visit my website -- www.skylarksings.com -- or send an e-mail to
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available through bookstores and Amazon, etc.
You can get copies from New Society Publishers (www.newsociety.com or
1-800-567-6772) or through Holt/Growing Without Schooling (www.holtgws.com)
david
April Spitzer wrote:
> Yeah, I have the same question. I couldn't find that title either.--
>
> April
>
> >From: "Ashley" <aharvie@...>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Gatto Book title?
> >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:43 -0800
> >
> > > <<I firmly believe the Underground History of American Education by John
> > > Taylor Gatto is a must read. It will help tremendously in explaining to
> > > "educator" type family & friends why we don't want to send our kids to
> > > school.>>
> >
> >I went to search for this book on Amazon and could not find it. Is this the
> >correct title? Any hints on where I can find it? I liked his other book,
> >"Dumbing Us Down" and would be interested to read this one if I could get
> >my
> >hands on it.
> >
> >Thanks very much, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
> >
> >
> >
>
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try half.com for the book, they have great deals.
Also, www.bestbookdeal.com is an online comparison of
38 stores, so your sure to get a good price.
Kerry
Also, www.bestbookdeal.com is an online comparison of
38 stores, so your sure to get a good price.
Kerry
Tami Labig-Duquette
I did a search on borders.com and found that book. It does say it isnt
published yet, which is odd if some of you have read it.
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published yet, which is odd if some of you have read it.
Tami
>From: "April Spitzer" <aprilspit@...>_________________________________________________________________
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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Gatto Book title?
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:45:27 -0500
>
>Yeah, I have the same question. I couldn't find that title either.
>
>April
>
>
> >From: "Ashley" <aharvie@...>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Gatto Book title?
> >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:43 -0800
> >
> > > <<I firmly believe the Underground History of American Education by
>John
> > > Taylor Gatto is a must read. It will help tremendously in explaining
>to
> > > "educator" type family & friends why we don't want to send our kids to
> > > school.>>
> >
> >I went to search for this book on Amazon and could not find it. Is this
>the
> >correct title? Any hints on where I can find it? I liked his other book,
> >"Dumbing Us Down" and would be interested to read this one if I could get
> >my
> >hands on it.
> >
> >Thanks very much, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
> >
> >
> >
>
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At 11:40 AM 1/19/01 -0500, you wrote:
at www.johntaylorgatto.com The book is $30 plus shipping though!
Sandi in St Louis
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>I did a search on borders.com and found that book. It does say it isntLike I said, you can buy it directly from Gatto's web page
>published yet, which is odd if some of you have read it.
>Tami
at www.johntaylorgatto.com The book is $30 plus shipping though!
Sandi in St Louis
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Thanks Sandi! I could not figure out why it said on the searches that it had
not been published yet, because I read that some had read it :)
Still foggy this a.m.
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not been published yet, because I read that some had read it :)
Still foggy this a.m.
Tami
>From: Sandi & Scott Spaeth <vespass@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Gatto Book title?
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:24:45 -0600
>
>At 04:45 PM 1/18/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Yeah, I have the same question. I couldn't find that title either.
> >
> >April
>
>
>That is the title of the book "The Underground History of American
>Education" By Gatto
>
>However, I am not sure if it has been released yet. I have a "Authors
>Special Pre Publication Edition" that I just happened upon at the
>library. My husband loved it so much that he wanted me to buy it, but when
>I called the book store they did not even have it in their system.
>
>I know it had been offered early through the Homeschool Newslink paper
>(www.homeschoolnewslink.com) but I just went there and it is not on the
>page. I did just find his own web site
>though, http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/ where it does have the book
>listed.
>
>This book is HUGE too. It looks like a soft covered college textbook. It
>is very in depth on the history and twisted philosophies behind public
>education. We did not agree with some of the things he said, but for 98%
>of the book I think he is right on the mark.
>
>Hope that helps!
>
>Sandi
>
>
>
> > >From: "Ashley" <aharvie@...>
> > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Gatto Book title?
> > >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:43 -0800
> > >
> > > > <<I firmly believe the Underground History of American Education by
>John
> > > > Taylor Gatto is a must read. It will help tremendously in
>explaining to
> > > > "educator" type family & friends why we don't want to send our kids
>to
> > > > school.>>
> > >
> > >I went to search for this book on Amazon and could not find it. Is this
>the
> > >correct title? Any hints on where I can find it? I liked his other
>book,
> > >"Dumbing Us Down" and would be interested to read this one if I could
>get
> > >my
> > >hands on it.
> > >
> > >Thanks very much, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
> > >
> > >
> > >
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At 11:50 AM 1/19/01 -0500, you wrote:
prepublished the way he had written it instead of all chopped up. Like I
said, this thing is a MONSTER of a book. I gave it to my husband and said
READ ME THE GOOD PARTS, which ended up being most of the book anyway!!
He does have at least one MAJOR info error though and that has to do with
BF Skinners daughter. It is listed on his web page though as an error, so
if you have read it, or will read it, take that part with a grain of
salt. Skinner's daughter is alive and an artist overseas somewhere, she
did not kill herself.
Anyway, so, I do think you are right Tami, but you can get the pre
published copy from his web page. Or, check your library, that is where we
got ours at.
Sandi
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>Thanks Sandi! I could not figure out why it said on the searches that it hadActually, Tami, you are right as far as I know. John wanted the book
>not been published yet, because I read that some had read it :)
>Still foggy this a.m.
>Tami
prepublished the way he had written it instead of all chopped up. Like I
said, this thing is a MONSTER of a book. I gave it to my husband and said
READ ME THE GOOD PARTS, which ended up being most of the book anyway!!
He does have at least one MAJOR info error though and that has to do with
BF Skinners daughter. It is listed on his web page though as an error, so
if you have read it, or will read it, take that part with a grain of
salt. Skinner's daughter is alive and an artist overseas somewhere, she
did not kill herself.
Anyway, so, I do think you are right Tami, but you can get the pre
published copy from his web page. Or, check your library, that is where we
got ours at.
Sandi
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><<I do often get counter arguments fromother people. They argue thatin
>homeschooled children are very precious
>while young, but they often turn into odd maladapted adults who struggle
>their relationships.>>Let me add to that that I seriously doubt that any child who was born
>
>Ask them to name one, just one, by name. <g> "Often" indeed...
strange ever got a heck of a lot more "normal" from going to school. I
mean, really, do they believe that a good dose of curriculum, recess and
cafeteria food will do much to change a child? Being beaten up a lot does
suppress certain forms of personal expression -- do you suppose that's what
they are advocating?
I can't think like a mainstreamer any more. Can't get inside their heads
at all.
Betsy
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Hi Sandi. Are you in the St. louis area? I saw your link. I live in
Louisiana, MO. It is about an 1 1/2 hours north of St. Charles. I am
desperately looking for other unschoolers for my 4 children to meet with.
Can you give me some more info? I am so excited!
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Louisiana, MO. It is about an 1 1/2 hours north of St. Charles. I am
desperately looking for other unschoolers for my 4 children to meet with.
Can you give me some more info? I am so excited!
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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Gatto Book title?
>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:11:09 -0600
>
>At 11:50 AM 1/19/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Thanks Sandi! I could not figure out why it said on the searches that it
>had
> >not been published yet, because I read that some had read it :)
> >Still foggy this a.m.
> >Tami
>
>
>Actually, Tami, you are right as far as I know. John wanted the book
>prepublished the way he had written it instead of all chopped up. Like I
>said, this thing is a MONSTER of a book. I gave it to my husband and said
>READ ME THE GOOD PARTS, which ended up being most of the book anyway!!
>
>He does have at least one MAJOR info error though and that has to do with
>BF Skinners daughter. It is listed on his web page though as an error, so
>if you have read it, or will read it, take that part with a grain of
>salt. Skinner's daughter is alive and an artist overseas somewhere, she
>did not kill herself.
>
>Anyway, so, I do think you are right Tami, but you can get the pre
>published copy from his web page. Or, check your library, that is where we
>got ours at.
>
>Sandi
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Ashley
Thanks to everyone for all the great responses to my queries about a)which
homeschooling books would be best for someone who knows nothing about it and
isn't sure it's right for them and b) the John Taylor Gatto book.The latter
It's sounds longer than I have time to read these days, but I'll file the
info for future reference.
Thanks again, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
homeschooling books would be best for someone who knows nothing about it and
isn't sure it's right for them and b) the John Taylor Gatto book.The latter
It's sounds longer than I have time to read these days, but I'll file the
info for future reference.
Thanks again, Ashley Harvie, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2
>
Ashley
Hello,
Can anyone recommend some good books, videos, materials, projects,websites,
etc., about volcanoes? Willis, 5, is very interested in volcanoes, and wants
to explore more. We're just starting out in this process and I'm not yet
fluent in all the resources and avenues of exploration we could take.
(After all, I went to school, where all the "material" was teacher-acquired,
teacher- presented.)
Anyway, any ideas for a neophyte on how to build on dd's interest in
volcanoes would be greatly appreciated. We're in Northern California, three
hours north of S.F. in case there are any great museum exhibits anyone knows
about.
I will echo all who've mentioned what a civilized, supportive group this is.
I feel very lucky to have stumbled upon it.
Best to all, Ashley, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2.
Can anyone recommend some good books, videos, materials, projects,websites,
etc., about volcanoes? Willis, 5, is very interested in volcanoes, and wants
to explore more. We're just starting out in this process and I'm not yet
fluent in all the resources and avenues of exploration we could take.
(After all, I went to school, where all the "material" was teacher-acquired,
teacher- presented.)
Anyway, any ideas for a neophyte on how to build on dd's interest in
volcanoes would be greatly appreciated. We're in Northern California, three
hours north of S.F. in case there are any great museum exhibits anyone knows
about.
I will echo all who've mentioned what a civilized, supportive group this is.
I feel very lucky to have stumbled upon it.
Best to all, Ashley, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2.
Erin M
>Hello,Hi Ashley,
>
>Can anyone recommend some good books, videos, materials, projects,websites,
>etc., about volcanoes? Willis, 5, is very interested in volcanoes, and
>wants
>to explore more. We're just starting out in this process and I'm not yet
>fluent in all the resources and avenues of exploration we could take.
Have you ever made a volcanic eruption from baking soda and vinegar? I don't
have a particular "recipe", I just mix the vinegar and baking soda until it
bubbles over. I fourteen, and I do this a lot for the younger kids I
babysit. If you put in red food coloring it really looks like lava! You and
Willis could make a volcano with paper mache or clay, and paint(use a bottle
or old cup as the base so you have something to put your lava ingredients
in:). Scientifically this doesn't have a lot to do with volcanoes(although
it is good for explaining chemical reactions), but it might be a fun project
to do along with your actual learning about them.
I found a couple of websites about volcanoes that might be useful to you,
too.
Volcano World: <http://www.volcano.und.edu>
This site is huge and it has tons of information. They call it the premier
source of volcano info on the web with good reason!
Jame's Volcano Page:
<http://www.http://www.oink.demon.co.uk/topics/volcano.htm>
This is a good starter page. It has a simple explanation of what a volcano
exactly is and information about famous volcanoes, definitions of geological
terms, a few links, and interesting volcano related tid bits.
Hope this helps!
love, Ren
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Tami Labig-Duquette
Hi Ashley!
Here are a few links on volcanoes, some even have lesson plans.
http://www.geo.mtu.edu/volcanoes/
http://www.learner.org/exhibits/volcanoes/
http://www.usgs.gov/education/learnweb/volcano/
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/framework.html
http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/volcanoes.html
Hope you find some of them useful.
Tami
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Here are a few links on volcanoes, some even have lesson plans.
http://www.geo.mtu.edu/volcanoes/
http://www.learner.org/exhibits/volcanoes/
http://www.usgs.gov/education/learnweb/volcano/
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/framework.html
http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/volcanoes.html
Hope you find some of them useful.
Tami
>From: "Ashley" <aharvie@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] volcano materials?
>Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:18:34 -0800
>
>
>Hello,
>
>Can anyone recommend some good books, videos, materials, projects,websites,
>etc., about volcanoes? Willis, 5, is very interested in volcanoes, and
>wants
>to explore more. We're just starting out in this process and I'm not yet
>fluent in all the resources and avenues of exploration we could take.
>(After all, I went to school, where all the "material" was
>teacher-acquired,
>teacher- presented.)
>
>Anyway, any ideas for a neophyte on how to build on dd's interest in
>volcanoes would be greatly appreciated. We're in Northern California, three
>hours north of S.F. in case there are any great museum exhibits anyone
>knows
>about.
>
>I will echo all who've mentioned what a civilized, supportive group this
>is.
>I feel very lucky to have stumbled upon it.
>
>Best to all, Ashley, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2.
>
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mary krzyzanowski
Hi Ashley,
There is a Magic School Bus video and book called "The Magic School Bus
blows its top" about volcanoes. I think there is a National Geographic
video too. (I don't know the title)
Mary-NY
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There is a Magic School Bus video and book called "The Magic School Bus
blows its top" about volcanoes. I think there is a National Geographic
video too. (I don't know the title)
Mary-NY
>From: "Ashley" <aharvie@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] volcano materials?
>Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:18:34 -0800
>
>
>Hello,
>
>Can anyone recommend some good books, videos, materials, projects,websites,
>etc., about volcanoes? Willis, 5, is very interested in volcanoes, and
>wants
>to explore more. We're just starting out in this process and I'm not yet
>fluent in all the resources and avenues of exploration we could take.
>(After all, I went to school, where all the "material" was
>teacher-acquired,
>teacher- presented.)
>
>Anyway, any ideas for a neophyte on how to build on dd's interest in
>volcanoes would be greatly appreciated. We're in Northern California, three
>hours north of S.F. in case there are any great museum exhibits anyone
>knows
>about.
>
>I will echo all who've mentioned what a civilized, supportive group this
>is.
>I feel very lucky to have stumbled upon it.
>
>Best to all, Ashley, mom to Willis, 5, and Frances, 2.
>
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Olivia
Something else that makes a good "explosion" is soda (Pepsi, etc.) and
table salt. The kids did it here at our homeschool science club and it was
a big hit, and it was less smelly than the vinegar and baking soda.
Olivia
At 12:44 PM 1/21/01, you wrote:
table salt. The kids did it here at our homeschool science club and it was
a big hit, and it was less smelly than the vinegar and baking soda.
Olivia
At 12:44 PM 1/21/01, you wrote:
> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:56:45 -0500
> From: "Erin M" <arabhorses_rock@...>
>Subject: Re: volcano materials?
>Have you ever made a volcanic eruption from baking soda and vinegar? I don't
>have a particular "recipe", I just mix the vinegar and baking soda until it
>bubbles over. I fourteen, and I do this a lot for the younger kids I
>babysit. If you put in red food coloring it really looks like lava!
[email protected]
Hi Ashley,
This link will take you to the earthcam site where I searched for volcano
cams! There was a whole bunch and I am sure your son would enjoy seeing live
cam shots of real active volcanos!
Enjoy - Dawn
EarthCam - Webcam Network - Search Results
This link will take you to the earthcam site where I searched for volcano
cams! There was a whole bunch and I am sure your son would enjoy seeing live
cam shots of real active volcanos!
Enjoy - Dawn
EarthCam - Webcam Network - Search Results
Tracy Oldfield
We got a 'volcano kit' for our 5yo's birthday last
year, had all the stuff, including a plastic volcano!
'Add your own vinegar...' We're in the UK, but I'm
sure there will be products available over there...
Tracy
Hi Ashley,
Have you ever made a volcanic eruption from baking soda
and vinegar? I don't
have a particular "recipe", I just mix the vinegar and
baking soda until it
bubbles over. I fourteen, and I do this a lot for the
younger kids I
babysit. If you put in red food coloring it really
looks like lava! You and
Willis could make a volcano with paper mache or clay,
and paint(use a bottle
or old cup as the base so you have something to put
your lava ingredients
in:). Scientifically this doesn't have a lot to do with
volcanoes(although
it is good for explaining chemical reactions), but it
might be a fun project
to do along with your actual learning about them.
I found a couple of websites about volcanoes that might
be useful to you,
too.
Volcano World: <http://www.volcano.und.edu>
This site is huge and it has tons of information. They
call it the premier
source of volcano info on the web with good reason!
Jame's Volcano Page:
<http://www.http://www.oink.demon.co.uk/topics/volcano.h
tm>This is a good starter page. It has a simple explanation of what a volcano
exactly is and information about famous volcanoes, definitions of geological
terms, a few links, and interesting volcano related tid bits.
Hope this helps!
love, Ren
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year, had all the stuff, including a plastic volcano!
'Add your own vinegar...' We're in the UK, but I'm
sure there will be products available over there...
Tracy
Hi Ashley,
Have you ever made a volcanic eruption from baking soda
and vinegar? I don't
have a particular "recipe", I just mix the vinegar and
baking soda until it
bubbles over. I fourteen, and I do this a lot for the
younger kids I
babysit. If you put in red food coloring it really
looks like lava! You and
Willis could make a volcano with paper mache or clay,
and paint(use a bottle
or old cup as the base so you have something to put
your lava ingredients
in:). Scientifically this doesn't have a lot to do with
volcanoes(although
it is good for explaining chemical reactions), but it
might be a fun project
to do along with your actual learning about them.
I found a couple of websites about volcanoes that might
be useful to you,
too.
Volcano World: <http://www.volcano.und.edu>
This site is huge and it has tons of information. They
call it the premier
source of volcano info on the web with good reason!
Jame's Volcano Page:
<http://www.http://www.oink.demon.co.uk/topics/volcano.h
tm>This is a good starter page. It has a simple explanation of what a volcano
exactly is and information about famous volcanoes, definitions of geological
terms, a few links, and interesting volcano related tid bits.
Hope this helps!
love, Ren
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Erin M
>Something else that makes a good "explosion" is soda (Pepsi, etc.) andOooh! I have to try that. :-)
>table salt. The kids did it here at our homeschool science club and it was
>a big hit, and it was less smelly than the vinegar and baking soda.
>
>Olivia
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Ashley
Thanks to all who responded to my request for volcano materials and
resources for my 5 year old. You gave us lots to explore and we are really
looking forward to it.
Best to all, Ashley Harvie
resources for my 5 year old. You gave us lots to explore and we are really
looking forward to it.
Best to all, Ashley Harvie