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Hi all! I have been lurking on the list for almost two weeks now and figured
I had best get around to sending in my bio. I read on the aol message boards
that some of the "old" regulars were hanging out here and thought I would
venture on over. My name is Kathy, I have been married to Mike for 9 yrs
this August. We have Jessica who will be 6 in August, Zach 4, and Jared 2. I
had planned to hs practically from birth. My friends in LLL were hsing
(which is how I heard about it). Reading info on hsing I found out about
unschooling. I really couldn't imagine doing it any other way because of my
temperament and my childrens - aahhh we would clash. I find that whenever I
get "teachy" and expect my dd to "understand" and when she doesn't I get all
bent, I immediately back off. Have done nothing official, we sing the abc
song, practice counting (this is all mostly through reading books), go lots
of interesting places, talk to interesting people, do crafts, play outside.
My kids do a lot of stuff by themselves without my interaction or direction.
When my dd wants to write a word (makes birthday cards for relatives and
friends) she asks me how to write it. She doesn't recognize all her letters,
but she recognizes words. I figure were doing whole word learning? I told
her if she needs help when she is ready to learn to read more words that I
will help her (how I have no idea, but I'll cross that bridge when we come to
it!) A hsing child from our support group is teaching the younger children
french this summer and dd is going to try that! I am rather excited to go so
I can learn too! Well I could go on and on here, just wanted to come out of
lurkdom and say hi!

Kathy

Lisa Bugg

Welcome!

Jessica sounds like my Matt, he too learned a whole lot of words by sight
before he ever knew all the letters or even many letter sounds. It's so
much fun to watch them figure things out. My current 5 year old though,
she's gotten worried about dying and only having one life. She was
despondent last night that she would only get to live this life one time.
She did say she was having fun being herself.

We're glad you came out of lurkdom. :)

Lisa
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From: <Natrlmama@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Lurker Intro!


> From: Natrlmama@...
>
> Hi all! I have been lurking on the list for almost two weeks now and
figured
> I had best get around to sending in my bio. I read on the aol message
boards
> that some of the "old" regulars were hanging out here and thought I would
> venture on over. My name is Kathy, I have been married to Mike for 9 yrs
> this August. We have Jessica who will be 6 in August, Zach 4, and Jared 2.
I
> had planned to hs practically from birth. My friends in LLL were hsing
> (which is how I heard about it). Reading info on hsing I found out about
> unschooling. I really couldn't imagine doing it any other way because of
my
> temperament and my childrens - aahhh we would clash. I find that
whenever I
> get "teachy" and expect my dd to "understand" and when she doesn't I get
all
> bent, I immediately back off. Have done nothing official, we sing the abc
> song, practice counting (this is all mostly through reading books), go
lots
> of interesting places, talk to interesting people, do crafts, play
outside.
> My kids do a lot of stuff by themselves without my interaction or
direction.
> When my dd wants to write a word (makes birthday cards for relatives and
> friends) she asks me how to write it. She doesn't recognize all her
letters,
> but she recognizes words. I figure were doing whole word learning? I
told
> her if she needs help when she is ready to learn to read more words that I
> will help her (how I have no idea, but I'll cross that bridge when we come
to
> it!) A hsing child from our support group is teaching the younger
children
> french this summer and dd is going to try that! I am rather excited to go
so
> I can learn too! Well I could go on and on here, just wanted to come out
of
> lurkdom and say hi!
>
> Kathy
>
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In a message dated 6/27/99 10:16:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Natrlmama@... writes:

<< Well I could go on and on here, just wanted to come out of
lurkdom and say hi!

Kathy >>

Hi Kathy.
Welcome to unschooling. Glad you could start while your children are young.
That's wonderful.
Mary Ellen.

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In a message dated 6/27/99 10:32:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
LisaBugg@... writes:

<< My current 5 year old though,
she's gotten worried about dying and only having one life. She was
despondent last night that she would only get to live this life one time.
She did say she was having fun being herself.

We're glad you came out of lurkdom. :) >>

Must be a five yr old thing, my dd is concerned about death also and I
distinctly remember talking to my dad about dying when I was that age
too. My dd is more concerned with when I am going to die than herself
though. Thanks for the welcome
Kathy ps. thanks for the stuff on gentle spirit I fwd it on to some friends
who
really appreciated it.

MOX

> << My current 5 year old though,
> she's gotten worried about dying and only having one life. She was
> despondent last night that she would only get to live this life one time.
> She did say she was having fun being herself.
>
> We're glad you came out of lurkdom. :) >>
>
> Must be a five yr old thing, my dd is concerned about death also and I
> distinctly remember talking to my dad about dying when I was that age
> too. My dd is more concerned with when I am going to die than herself
> though. Thanks for the welcome
> Kathy ps. thanks for the stuff on gentle spirit I fwd it on to some
friends
> who
> really appreciated it.

Do you think that maybe it has to do with sensitivity level of a child? My
youngest who is five recently spent an hour crying his heart out about our
family dying. My older two didn't do this and my Jaron is the most
emotional/sensitive kid. It just crushed me hearing him cry, "I don't want
you to die, I love you too much!" :( Are your children very sensitive?
Tonia
mox@...
Hammond, OR
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Lisa Bugg

> Do you think that maybe it has to do with sensitivity level of a child? My
> youngest who is five recently spent an hour crying his heart out about our
> family dying. My older two didn't do this and my Jaron is the most
> emotional/sensitive kid. It just crushed me hearing him cry, "I don't want
> you to die, I love you too much!" :( Are your children very sensitive?
> Tonia
>

Yes and no... my more emotionally sensitive child didn't do this at 5, but
he had only started talking at 4, so at 5 philosophy wasn't where he was at.
<G> Matter of fact my youngest is thicker skinned one of the bunch. Kaela
is sensitive, but only in the pick up signals area, she understands
subtleties. Now how she reacts to those subtleties varys, sometimes it's
like bull in a china shop. <
I have one child that is a complete realist. He crossed his eyes at me when
I tried to explain Santa Claus at 3, bah humbug to that. The youngest child
is definately a philosopher and the one who has strong intrapersonal skills.

I love watching them....well, unless they are yelling at one another, like
they did most of yesterday. Sometimes I wish I could watch them from afar,
instead of from the middle. <VBG>

Lisa

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<<I love watching them....well, unless they are yelling at one another, like
they did most of yesterday. Sometimes I wish I could watch them from afar,
instead of from the middle. <VBG>
>>

One of my favorite things is being able to observe my kids in action when
they don't know I'm there, like when I come to pick them up from playing with
other kids, or at a distance in a park or something. To see them move
without interaction with family is like a glimpse into their future.

I'm also impressed that my kids act better when they're away from home than
when they're here. I know, and grew up with, and have been related to some
kids who were well behaved only in the arm's-length presence of their parents
and horrible elsewhere. I'd much rather have the kids good elsewhere and
confident enough to express their frustration or (sometimes rude) humor with
me instead of when they're guests.

Sandra

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<< My current 5 year old though,
she's gotten worried about dying and only having one life. >>

I would take that as a moment to explain that there are millions of people in
the world who believe in reincarnation, and just explain it to her lightly.
Even if you don't believe in it yourself, it's true that many do, and it's "a
teachable moment" (not a phrase I like much, but it gets used...)

Sandra

Lisa Bugg

Oh, I did explain reincarnation.... and other things. What she was sad over
was knowing she was only going to get on go around being this person, with
this family as family. She was aware that each day that past she had was
one less she could be herself. Reincarnation was okay as a concept, but not
for dealing with the sadness. At that point there was nothing to do but
hold her.

lLisa
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Lurker Intro!


> From: SandraDodd@...
>
> << My current 5 year old though,
> she's gotten worried about dying and only having one life. >>
>
> I would take that as a moment to explain that there are millions of people
in
> the world who believe in reincarnation, and just explain it to her
lightly.
> Even if you don't believe in it yourself, it's true that many do, and it's
"a
> teachable moment" (not a phrase I like much, but it gets used...)
>
> Sandra
>
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In a message dated 6/29/99 12:02:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
mox@... writes:

<< Do you think that maybe it has to do with sensitivity level of a child? My
youngest who is five recently spent an hour crying his heart out about our
family dying. My older two didn't do this and my Jaron is the most
emotional/sensitive kid. It just crushed me hearing him cry, "I don't want
you to die, I love you too much!" :( Are your children very sensitive?
Tonia >>
Yes my dd is very sensitive, as a matter of fact we have the same sensitivity
level. My son isn't near as sensitive as my dd.

Kathy