Re: to be a dr.-advice please.
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In a message dated 6/27/99 2:13:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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university where you son would be getting his Bachelor's degree. Many
universities take homeschooled students. It's easy to research the
universities your son is interested in to see what their admission
requirements are. Just call the admissions office, tell them you are
homeschooling your son who is interested in attending there, and ask them.
But. . . Pre-med programs are very competitive and you son will need a solid
grounding in the sciences. . . and good SAT scores wouldn't hurt. That
grounding in the sciences doesn't have to come at the cost of unschooling,
though. :-) If your son is motivated to learn, say, biology there are ways
for him to learn without resorting to schools or school-at-home.
Karl Bunday's website at: http://learninfreedom.org/colleges_4_hmsc.html is
a good resource. It lists 650 colleges that have accepted homeschoolers.
Cafi Cohen's book "And What About College? : How Homeschooling Can Lead to
Admissions to the Best Colleges & Universities" might be helpful to you.
Also, you might be interested in David and Micki Colfax's books
"Homeschooling for Excellence" and "Hard Times in Paradise". The Colfaxes
homeschooled their kids in a very relaxed manner. One of their sons
graduated from Harvard, and then from Harvard Medical School. Two of their
sons are now attorneys, and at least one of them attended Yale.
Lisa C
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>How could we research if medical schools take hsed/unsedIt's not actually the medical schools you need to worry about - it's the
> children?
university where you son would be getting his Bachelor's degree. Many
universities take homeschooled students. It's easy to research the
universities your son is interested in to see what their admission
requirements are. Just call the admissions office, tell them you are
homeschooling your son who is interested in attending there, and ask them.
But. . . Pre-med programs are very competitive and you son will need a solid
grounding in the sciences. . . and good SAT scores wouldn't hurt. That
grounding in the sciences doesn't have to come at the cost of unschooling,
though. :-) If your son is motivated to learn, say, biology there are ways
for him to learn without resorting to schools or school-at-home.
Karl Bunday's website at: http://learninfreedom.org/colleges_4_hmsc.html is
a good resource. It lists 650 colleges that have accepted homeschoolers.
Cafi Cohen's book "And What About College? : How Homeschooling Can Lead to
Admissions to the Best Colleges & Universities" might be helpful to you.
Also, you might be interested in David and Micki Colfax's books
"Homeschooling for Excellence" and "Hard Times in Paradise". The Colfaxes
homeschooled their kids in a very relaxed manner. One of their sons
graduated from Harvard, and then from Harvard Medical School. Two of their
sons are now attorneys, and at least one of them attended Yale.
Lisa C
John O. Andersen
> Also, you might be interested in David and Micki Colfax's booksColfaxes
> "Homeschooling for Excellence" and "Hard Times in Paradise". The
> homeschooled their kids in a very relaxed manner. One of their sonstheir
> graduated from Harvard, and then from Harvard Medical School. Two of
> sons are now attorneys, and at least one of them attended Yale.I used to tell people to read the Colfax books because I thought their
children were particularly shining examples of success. I still think the
Colfaxes succeeded, but my definition of success has changed somewhat.
People who see success as achieving social status and a lot of money will
no doubt be impressed by what the Colfaxes have achieved. However, there
are more than a few people out there who are applying very different
criteria of success to their lives and by those criteria succeeding
brilliantly.
John Andersen
Home Education Magazine
At 11:06 AM -0700 6/27/99, John O. Andersen wrote:
doctors or lawyers, but electricians and carpenters. The electrician (Jim)
called me this morning to chitchat and mentioned that he was especially
proud of a job he did this last week, a three-day job of rewiring something
critical in a huge sawmill, which tested out 100% when the test runs were
made. He said the inspector was so shocked that he asked for a rerun of the
test, and again it was 100%. Jim said apparently these things often hit
90-95% on the tests, but a 100% run was apparently astonishing. Jim said
the inspector asked him where he'd learned that kind of accuracy and when
Jim said he was homeschooled everyone just stood around rather speechless.
The carpenter, John (who lives in Alaska), was called in on a special metal
fabricating project (structural beams for a commercial building) a couple
of weeks ago because he was one of the only people capable of making
corrections to the blueprints involved... his capability was due to working
with those kinds of blueprints last year and developing an understanding of
how they worked... or something. He said his boss wanted him on the project
because the inspector had specifically mentioned John as someone who knew
what he was doing, and did it the right way.
Remember, these boys were completely unschooled, left to learn whatever
they wanted, on their own, and spent most of their childhood riding their
horses to fishing holes and generally goofing off. They've both talked at
length about the attitudes they see in their fellow workers, how most of
them seem unhappy, unmotivated, uninterested. John and Jim are doing these
jobs because they're fascinated by the processes involved; both are
constantly learning new skills and applying them in their work, and they're
enjoying what they do (and the money's not bad). Sure seems like a good
description of success to me.
Helen
>People who see success as achieving social status and a lot of money willExactly so, John. Our two oldest sons - totally unschooled - are not
>no doubt be impressed by what the Colfaxes have achieved. However, there
>are more than a few people out there who are applying very different
>criteria of success to their lives and by those criteria succeeding
>brilliantly.
doctors or lawyers, but electricians and carpenters. The electrician (Jim)
called me this morning to chitchat and mentioned that he was especially
proud of a job he did this last week, a three-day job of rewiring something
critical in a huge sawmill, which tested out 100% when the test runs were
made. He said the inspector was so shocked that he asked for a rerun of the
test, and again it was 100%. Jim said apparently these things often hit
90-95% on the tests, but a 100% run was apparently astonishing. Jim said
the inspector asked him where he'd learned that kind of accuracy and when
Jim said he was homeschooled everyone just stood around rather speechless.
The carpenter, John (who lives in Alaska), was called in on a special metal
fabricating project (structural beams for a commercial building) a couple
of weeks ago because he was one of the only people capable of making
corrections to the blueprints involved... his capability was due to working
with those kinds of blueprints last year and developing an understanding of
how they worked... or something. He said his boss wanted him on the project
because the inspector had specifically mentioned John as someone who knew
what he was doing, and did it the right way.
Remember, these boys were completely unschooled, left to learn whatever
they wanted, on their own, and spent most of their childhood riding their
horses to fishing holes and generally goofing off. They've both talked at
length about the attitudes they see in their fellow workers, how most of
them seem unhappy, unmotivated, uninterested. John and Jim are doing these
jobs because they're fascinated by the processes involved; both are
constantly learning new skills and applying them in their work, and they're
enjoying what they do (and the money's not bad). Sure seems like a good
description of success to me.
Helen
A.Y.
Helen,
Thanks to you and your kids.....
We have years to just be, but it is always nice to hear of such contented
success.
What did you boys do when they were approaching college. Did they pursue it on
their own?
Ann
Home Education Magazine wrote:
Thanks to you and your kids.....
We have years to just be, but it is always nice to hear of such contented
success.
What did you boys do when they were approaching college. Did they pursue it on
their own?
Ann
Home Education Magazine wrote:
> From: Home Education Magazine <HEM-Editor@...>
>
> At 11:06 AM -0700 6/27/99, John O. Andersen wrote:
> >People who see success as achieving social status and a lot of money will
> >no doubt be impressed by what the Colfaxes have achieved. However, there
> >are more than a few people out there who are applying very different
> >criteria of success to their lives and by those criteria succeeding
> >brilliantly.
>
> Exactly so, John. Our two oldest sons - totally unschooled - are not
> doctors or lawyers, but electricians and carpenters. The electrician (Jim)
> called me this morning to chitchat and mentioned that he was especially
> proud of a job he did this last week, a three-day job of rewiring something
> critical in a huge sawmill, which tested out 100% when the test runs were
> made. He said the inspector was so shocked that he asked for a rerun of the
> test, and again it was 100%. Jim said apparently these things often hit
> 90-95% on the tests, but a 100% run was apparently astonishing. Jim said
> the inspector asked him where he'd learned that kind of accuracy and when
> Jim said he was homeschooled everyone just stood around rather speechless.
>
> The carpenter, John (who lives in Alaska), was called in on a special metal
> fabricating project (structural beams for a commercial building) a couple
> of weeks ago because he was one of the only people capable of making
> corrections to the blueprints involved... his capability was due to working
> with those kinds of blueprints last year and developing an understanding of
> how they worked... or something. He said his boss wanted him on the project
> because the inspector had specifically mentioned John as someone who knew
> what he was doing, and did it the right way.
>
> Remember, these boys were completely unschooled, left to learn whatever
> they wanted, on their own, and spent most of their childhood riding their
> horses to fishing holes and generally goofing off. They've both talked at
> length about the attitudes they see in their fellow workers, how most of
> them seem unhappy, unmotivated, uninterested. John and Jim are doing these
> jobs because they're fascinated by the processes involved; both are
> constantly learning new skills and applying them in their work, and they're
> enjoying what they do (and the money's not bad). Sure seems like a good
> description of success to me.
>
> Helen
>
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<< Many
universities take homeschooled students. >>
I've never heard of a university that refused to take any homeschooled
students. Has anyone else here? Homeschooling seems not to be an issue.
<<But. . . Pre-med programs are very competitive and you son will need a
solid
grounding in the sciences. . . and good SAT scores wouldn't hurt.>>
Isn't there some other test to take before med school? If not, then Graduate
Record Exam? I know for law school there's the LSAT, and for other grad
school, GRE. SAT scores are for getting into undergrad, as far as I know.
There USED to be (maybe not anymore) some medical schools that would take
people without an undergrad degree, and there might be some yet that would
consider a special-case exception.
Sandra
universities take homeschooled students. >>
I've never heard of a university that refused to take any homeschooled
students. Has anyone else here? Homeschooling seems not to be an issue.
<<But. . . Pre-med programs are very competitive and you son will need a
solid
grounding in the sciences. . . and good SAT scores wouldn't hurt.>>
Isn't there some other test to take before med school? If not, then Graduate
Record Exam? I know for law school there's the LSAT, and for other grad
school, GRE. SAT scores are for getting into undergrad, as far as I know.
There USED to be (maybe not anymore) some medical schools that would take
people without an undergrad degree, and there might be some yet that would
consider a special-case exception.
Sandra
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In a message dated 6/27/99 11:55:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
HEM-Editor@... writes:
<< Remember, these boys were completely unschooled, left to learn whatever
they wanted, on their own, and spent most of their childhood riding their
horses to fishing holes and generally goofing off. >>
I LOVE hearing stories like this. They inspire me!! Thanks!
Mary Ellen.
HEM-Editor@... writes:
<< Remember, these boys were completely unschooled, left to learn whatever
they wanted, on their own, and spent most of their childhood riding their
horses to fishing holes and generally goofing off. >>
I LOVE hearing stories like this. They inspire me!! Thanks!
Mary Ellen.
Home Education Magazine
At 4:53 PM -0400 6/27/99, A.Y. wrote:
have gone on to college, but our kids didn't see that going to college
would help them do what they wanted to do. The boys both learned their
skills via on-the-job training. As Jim said - "Why should I spend four
years in a college or voc-tech school learning to do this stuff in theory
when I could be getting paid to learn it for real?"
Helen
>From: "A.Y." <hooperck@...>None of our kids has ever been interested in college. Many of their friends
>
>Helen,
>Thanks to you and your kids.....
>We have years to just be, but it is always nice to hear of such contented
>success.
>What did you boys do when they were approaching college. Did they pursue
>it on
>their own?
>Ann
have gone on to college, but our kids didn't see that going to college
would help them do what they wanted to do. The boys both learned their
skills via on-the-job training. As Jim said - "Why should I spend four
years in a college or voc-tech school learning to do this stuff in theory
when I could be getting paid to learn it for real?"
Helen
A.Y.
Helen,
I wish you were closer! I'd love to spend an afternoon listening to how your
days were and are.
How did you combat doubts? Did you have doubts?
I have millions of questions.... your the only true unschoolers I've ever heard
of.
I'll pace some of the questions though.
Did you worry about reading, or try to teach it? Or writing ect??
Ann
I wish you were closer! I'd love to spend an afternoon listening to how your
days were and are.
How did you combat doubts? Did you have doubts?
I have millions of questions.... your the only true unschoolers I've ever heard
of.
I'll pace some of the questions though.
Did you worry about reading, or try to teach it? Or writing ect??
Ann
>
> None of our kids has ever been interested in college. Many of their friends
> have gone on to college, but our kids didn't see that going to college
> would help them do what they wanted to do. The boys both learned their
> skills via on-the-job training. As Jim said - "Why should I spend four
> years in a college or voc-tech school learning to do this stuff in theory
> when I could be getting paid to learn it for real?"
>
> Helen
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