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In a message dated 8/28/2000 5:34:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
NumoAstro@... writes:

> Now I can get that book... I think we already do the consequence thing...
We
> try to make it as natural as possible, sometimes it's not always possible.

> Zak seems to learn and understand that... However I think I'll get this
book
>
> anyway to see if I can improve my parenting skills.
>
> Dawn F
> Tucson, AZ


I stress in my class that part of the art of Love and Logic is constructing
appropriate consequences when natural consequences are not available. It
takes time, patience and practice. It's always fun and instructive to hear
in class what people tried the previous week. I remember one mom telling us
in a fit of frustration that she told her 10 year old daughter that people
who don't clean the kitchen after dinner don't get to go on field trips. Her
daughter calmly asked, And just what do field trips have to do with the
kitchen? We had a good laugh over that one.

Carron

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In a message dated 8/29/2000 2:41:59 PM, Cararmst@... writes:

<< I remember one mom telling us
in a fit of frustration that she told her 10 year old daughter that people
who don't clean the kitchen after dinner don't get to go on field trips. Her
daughter calmly asked, And just what do field trips have to do with the
kitchen? We had a good laugh over that one. >>

I don't know... maybe moms who have to stay up late cleaning the kitchen and
doing other housework by themselves are too tired or too pissed off to drive
a long way for a field trip.

OK, I know I'm stretching, but I think there is a connection. Maybe it's too
subtle for a kid to see, though.

Betsy

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In a message dated 8/29/2000 12:03:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
ecsamhill@... writes:

> I don't know... maybe moms who have to stay up late cleaning the kitchen
and
>
> doing other housework by themselves are too tired or too pissed off to
drive
>
> a long way for a field trip.
>
> OK, I know I'm stretching, but I think there is a connection. Maybe it's
> too
> subtle for a kid to see, though.
>
> Betsy

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In a message dated 8/29/2000 12:03:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
ecsamhill@... writes:

> I don't know... maybe moms who have to stay up late cleaning the kitchen
and
>
> doing other housework by themselves are too tired or too pissed off to
drive
>
> a long way for a field trip.
>
> OK, I know I'm stretching, but I think there is a connection. Maybe it's
> too
> subtle for a kid to see, though.
>
> Betsy

Good point! In our Love and Logic class one of the "techniques" we teach is
the Brain Drain. When your child declines to do something that you asked,
like a chore, and you have to do it for him, the consequence is that parent's
(or the family's) energy or time has been drained to the point where she may
not be able to do what the child wants, like the field trip.

Carron