Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Rebellion (was Pink Hair)
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In a message dated 8/25/00 11:58:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Cararmst@... writes:
<< n fact, near the end of the conference, he was saying that they were all
TOO
well adjusted and that just wasn't normal. T >>
This is just toooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!
Julie
Cararmst@... writes:
<< n fact, near the end of the conference, he was saying that they were all
TOO
well adjusted and that just wasn't normal. T >>
This is just toooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!
Julie
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In a message dated 8/25/2000 12:48:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
Jaam1224@... writes:
we attended this conference, which was this past May, my dh became an adamant
unschooler. Something clicked. He came away telling me that kids shouldn't
even think about academics until they're twelve, that the body of knowledge
is changing so rapidly we can't possibly to hope to learn what we need to
know in school or even homeschooling with a curriculum, that our kids will
learn what they need to when they need to -- period!. I accused him of being
a pod person (a la Invasion of the Body Snatchers). This is the man who
three years ago told me that there would be no gaps in the education of his
children, that it would be my job to research all the available curriculum
packages, to choose the one that was the most rigorous and comprehensive, and
that cost was no object. Zack was 4, going on 5, at the time.
Carron
Jaam1224@... writes:
> << n fact, near the end of the conference, he was saying that they were allI know, and I love it! We have both come so far, but after the second time
> TOO
> well adjusted and that just wasn't normal. T >>
> This is just toooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Julie
>
we attended this conference, which was this past May, my dh became an adamant
unschooler. Something clicked. He came away telling me that kids shouldn't
even think about academics until they're twelve, that the body of knowledge
is changing so rapidly we can't possibly to hope to learn what we need to
know in school or even homeschooling with a curriculum, that our kids will
learn what they need to when they need to -- period!. I accused him of being
a pod person (a la Invasion of the Body Snatchers). This is the man who
three years ago told me that there would be no gaps in the education of his
children, that it would be my job to research all the available curriculum
packages, to choose the one that was the most rigorous and comprehensive, and
that cost was no object. Zack was 4, going on 5, at the time.
Carron
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my hubby and I haven't really discussed homeschooling/unschooling
philosophy's as of yet ( our oldest is 3). But after much discussion on all
the other decisions we have made it comes over to my way of thinking.....
Julie
philosophy's as of yet ( our oldest is 3). But after much discussion on all
the other decisions we have made it comes over to my way of thinking.....
Julie
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In a message dated 8/26/2000 7:14:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
Jaam1224@... writes:
My husband observed after the last unschooling conference that we went to
that homeschooling, the research into it, the websites, the books, the
conferences, the support groups, are overwhelmingly feminine in nature.
That's completely understandable since moms are the primary homeschoolers.
He sees in talking with other hs dads, that there is often the attitude that
homeschooling is the mom's job, and that the dad may have some concerns about
it, but if she's willing to commit to it, he's willing to "give it a try".
But, they often take a wait and see attitude. Then, as time progresses, and
the dad sees that the children and mom are happy, productive people, that the
kids are learning and they won't be social misfits, he "comes around" and
becomes an advocate.
This happened with my husband, too. But wouldn't it be so much more
productive if we could bring these guys around sooner? We could save so much
emotional energy if we didn't have to deal with our job--homeschooling--and
with our partner's doubts, too.
Carron
Jaam1224@... writes:
> my hubby and I haven't really discussed homeschooling/unschoolingall
> philosophy's as of yet ( our oldest is 3). But after much discussion on
>LOL. Were you a debater in school?
> the other decisions we have made it comes over to my way of thinking.....
>
> Julie
My husband observed after the last unschooling conference that we went to
that homeschooling, the research into it, the websites, the books, the
conferences, the support groups, are overwhelmingly feminine in nature.
That's completely understandable since moms are the primary homeschoolers.
He sees in talking with other hs dads, that there is often the attitude that
homeschooling is the mom's job, and that the dad may have some concerns about
it, but if she's willing to commit to it, he's willing to "give it a try".
But, they often take a wait and see attitude. Then, as time progresses, and
the dad sees that the children and mom are happy, productive people, that the
kids are learning and they won't be social misfits, he "comes around" and
becomes an advocate.
This happened with my husband, too. But wouldn't it be so much more
productive if we could bring these guys around sooner? We could save so much
emotional energy if we didn't have to deal with our job--homeschooling--and
with our partner's doubts, too.
Carron
Cathie _
>my dh became an adamantYour husband has de-schooled. Isn't it great how it works! When I started
>unschooler. Something clicked. He came away telling me that kids
>shouldn't
>even think about academics until they're twelve, that the body of knowledge
>is changing so rapidly we can't possibly to hope to learn what we need to
>know in school or even homeschooling with a curriculum, that our kids will
>learn what they need to when they need to -- period!.
out I had all these wonderful plans for unit studies that I thought would be
fun, and interesting, and could incorporate all the usual school subjects
into one topic. It didn't take me long to find out that what sounded fun and
interesting to me might sound dumb and boring to the kids. Or, more likely,
it would appeal to one kid, but not the others. So, after a few months of
trying to force people to participate in all my carefully planned fun, I
began my own de-schooling too.
Now, though, after two years, it seems that the kids would like to do some
of the things that I threw out. Now that they are truly free to learn what
they want, they do want to learn. Now they will put the effort into it, and
seem to be able to appreciate each others contributions and interests. So,
we may do a unit. This time, however, it won't be me planning it all out and
telling them what they are to do.
School starts in our district tomorrow. We traditionally have breakfast in
our garden and watch the bus pass by. We celebrate our freedom and do a
little thinking and talking about where we want to go with school this year
and what we would like to do. When they went to school I always video taped
them on this day, getting on the bus, and then telling me how the first day
went. That tape was a big motivator in the decision to pull them out of
school when I looked back at the changes over the years-from a wonderful
family that you would love to know, to a bunch of rude brats interrupting
each other. Maybe I will tape again tomorrow to see what a difference there
is now.
Cathie
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Cathie,
What a neat tradition, watching the school bus go by....
Julie
What a neat tradition, watching the school bus go by....
Julie
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In a message dated 8/27/2000 4:12:39 AM Central Daylight Time,
cathie_98@... writes:
relief when you see it. When my nephew started first grade a couple of weeks
ago (August 4th -- can you believe school starts that early here in the
Dallas area?) I wanted to shake my sister-in-law and tell her to wake up!
My nephew is an extremely active boy, and I will be so surprised if he
actually fits into the classroom. Time will tell.
Carron
cathie_98@... writes:
> That tape was a big motivator in the decision to pull them out ofthere
> school when I looked back at the changes over the years-from a wonderful
> family that you would love to know, to a bunch of rude brats interrupting
> each other. Maybe I will tape again tomorrow to see what a difference
> is now.Wow, what a great memorial to days gone by! I bet you breathe a big sigh of
>
> Cathie
relief when you see it. When my nephew started first grade a couple of weeks
ago (August 4th -- can you believe school starts that early here in the
Dallas area?) I wanted to shake my sister-in-law and tell her to wake up!
My nephew is an extremely active boy, and I will be so surprised if he
actually fits into the classroom. Time will tell.
Carron