Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] indigo children
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In a message dated 8/20/00 9:47:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
snmanns@... writes:
<< www.indigochild.com >>
This was very interesting, however, this method of relating to, or parenting
the indigo child, that is the way most of us are already raising our
children, with respect and love. To me, this whole thing fits "the second
child" the one who is outside the box, who doesn't fit the pattern but is
loving, caring and will say to his dad "can we talk? " But I also treat the
eldest with the same love, choices, and respect. I have always explained to
my children why I say to do or not to do something. I guess the bottom line
is, I don't know if I believe this, about the indigo children, but I do
believe in the method of parenting!
snmanns@... writes:
<< www.indigochild.com >>
This was very interesting, however, this method of relating to, or parenting
the indigo child, that is the way most of us are already raising our
children, with respect and love. To me, this whole thing fits "the second
child" the one who is outside the box, who doesn't fit the pattern but is
loving, caring and will say to his dad "can we talk? " But I also treat the
eldest with the same love, choices, and respect. I have always explained to
my children why I say to do or not to do something. I guess the bottom line
is, I don't know if I believe this, about the indigo children, but I do
believe in the method of parenting!
aworthen
Jennifer,
What a wondrful post. Reminded me a lot of my oldest dd (8 in Nov.). She
too, naturally gravitates toward adults that are open and receptive to her
and gets along much better with those that are 40 something than 7 or 8
(provided they understand her). Guess I'll have to reaed the book.
Amy
Mom to Samantha, Dana, and Casey
What a wondrful post. Reminded me a lot of my oldest dd (8 in Nov.). She
too, naturally gravitates toward adults that are open and receptive to her
and gets along much better with those that are 40 something than 7 or 8
(provided they understand her). Guess I'll have to reaed the book.
Amy
Mom to Samantha, Dana, and Casey
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Thanks for this interview! I got the book some months ago after having many
people recommend it after meeting my daughter. It is very clear that she is
a great teacher and my whole life has changed by having her.
She does not fit in. She just doesn't. She has her own agenda and is very
intelligent. Her second grade teacher told me she wasn't just asking
questions, she was providing alternative ways to teach the lesson itself.
Needless to say, this did not go over well in a typical classroom.
I've found my major 'job' as her mother is to get out of her way. She has a
great heart, but she also speaks her mind. I have found there are a lot of
adults that still believe in the 'be seen and not heard' child, and those
adults have a big problem with her. The ones that don't think of children as
inferior and as little people they need to 'control' actually 'hear' her and
are amazed at the things that come out of her at times! She also seems to
naturally gravitate to people who are open and receptive to her and who treat
her as an equal and to shy away from those who see her as less. She has a
hard time relating to a lot of kids and her best friends are other adults.
She just walks right up to people and starts conversations and she's done
this ever since she could walk and talk. I never discouraged this, and it
taught me how friendly and wonderful people actually are, as I would end up
in the conversation when I came to get her. She opened up my whole world.
I have heard 'she's going to be president someday' so many times I can't tell
you, but, I really have no idea what her path is and what she came here to
do. I am only here to support and encourage her and that by being her
teacher to never forget that I am also her student.
I am very grateful to books like Indigo Children because it comes from the
perspective that there is nothing to 'fix', nothing to manipulate or control,
only to understand and work with. And that these are not characteristics to
merely tolerate, but to accept and love because they are a part of
themselves, that, given expression in the right arena, will prove to be their
contribution to the world.
Jennifer
people recommend it after meeting my daughter. It is very clear that she is
a great teacher and my whole life has changed by having her.
She does not fit in. She just doesn't. She has her own agenda and is very
intelligent. Her second grade teacher told me she wasn't just asking
questions, she was providing alternative ways to teach the lesson itself.
Needless to say, this did not go over well in a typical classroom.
I've found my major 'job' as her mother is to get out of her way. She has a
great heart, but she also speaks her mind. I have found there are a lot of
adults that still believe in the 'be seen and not heard' child, and those
adults have a big problem with her. The ones that don't think of children as
inferior and as little people they need to 'control' actually 'hear' her and
are amazed at the things that come out of her at times! She also seems to
naturally gravitate to people who are open and receptive to her and who treat
her as an equal and to shy away from those who see her as less. She has a
hard time relating to a lot of kids and her best friends are other adults.
She just walks right up to people and starts conversations and she's done
this ever since she could walk and talk. I never discouraged this, and it
taught me how friendly and wonderful people actually are, as I would end up
in the conversation when I came to get her. She opened up my whole world.
I have heard 'she's going to be president someday' so many times I can't tell
you, but, I really have no idea what her path is and what she came here to
do. I am only here to support and encourage her and that by being her
teacher to never forget that I am also her student.
I am very grateful to books like Indigo Children because it comes from the
perspective that there is nothing to 'fix', nothing to manipulate or control,
only to understand and work with. And that these are not characteristics to
merely tolerate, but to accept and love because they are a part of
themselves, that, given expression in the right arena, will prove to be their
contribution to the world.
Jennifer
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In a message dated 8/20/2000 7:21:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
aworthen@... writes:
This so sounds like my son. We were all getting our hair cut today, and he
was sitting across from me having an annimated conversation with his stylist.
What struck me was that it wasn't a monologue. He kept asking her if she
knew anything about Pokemon, what her favorite TV show was, did she like to
play board games, etc. I was quite impressed -- he's 7 and he has never felt
intimidated by an adult.
Carron
aworthen@... writes:
> Jennifer,Thank you all for your comments on this book. I've got to have it, now.
> What a wondrful post. Reminded me a lot of my oldest dd (8 in Nov.). She
> too, naturally gravitates toward adults that are open and receptive to her
> and gets along much better with those that are 40 something than 7 or 8
> (provided they understand her). Guess I'll have to reaed the book.
> Amy
This so sounds like my son. We were all getting our hair cut today, and he
was sitting across from me having an annimated conversation with his stylist.
What struck me was that it wasn't a monologue. He kept asking her if she
knew anything about Pokemon, what her favorite TV show was, did she like to
play board games, etc. I was quite impressed -- he's 7 and he has never felt
intimidated by an adult.
Carron
Cathie _
Jennifer, how old is your daughter? She sounds like a great person.
I also learn so much from my kids. Jenny, my baby, has been my joy teacher,
as I have mentioned before. She is 3 now. When she was a baby she had to be
in the garden every day. We would usually go out in the morning for
coffee-if we missed that time for some reason or other she would get fussy
and we realized that was the problem so we would take her out for a bit and
all would be fine. To her, a leaf falling onto the tray of her walker was a
precious gift from the heavens. She was filled with wonder at the song of a
bird or a butterfly passing by. When that baby smiled, the joy came from
every ounce of her being. You can't be near that without realizing that
these things are available to us as well. Bliss truly is our inherent
nature.
Now that she is 3, she talks so much more and I can show her so many things.
She has a garden of her own-full of zinnias so she can pick as many as she
wants, and it attracts loads of those butterflys that she loves. We made a
picture a few weeks ago from shapes that I cut out and she glued, of
construction paper. It disappeared from the refrigerator, and I saw this
light in her face when I said "We'll just have to make another on." She
didn't realize that we could do it again! Then she wanted to duplicate the
first picture exactly-I suggested making it a night picture, and we made
stars and a moon instead of a sun and clouds. You can see the connections
and the ideas growing in her mind as the possabilities opened up for her.
And I get to share it all-I get to see all the things that I have taken for
granted through these new eyes. I get to feel the joy and wonder at flowers
and falling leaves and the magic that happens to a cookie through the window
of the oven door. We share in the learning-I may be the one who knows how to
cut the shapes or mix the dough, but she is the one teaching how wonderful
it is to be able to.
Gosh, thanks for getting me inspired to write all of this-I think that now
with my house all quiet and the sun coming up I will turn off the computer
and take my coffee to the garden! I have 4 more kids, so maybe tomorrow I
will write of another of my teachers.
Love, Cathie
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I also learn so much from my kids. Jenny, my baby, has been my joy teacher,
as I have mentioned before. She is 3 now. When she was a baby she had to be
in the garden every day. We would usually go out in the morning for
coffee-if we missed that time for some reason or other she would get fussy
and we realized that was the problem so we would take her out for a bit and
all would be fine. To her, a leaf falling onto the tray of her walker was a
precious gift from the heavens. She was filled with wonder at the song of a
bird or a butterfly passing by. When that baby smiled, the joy came from
every ounce of her being. You can't be near that without realizing that
these things are available to us as well. Bliss truly is our inherent
nature.
Now that she is 3, she talks so much more and I can show her so many things.
She has a garden of her own-full of zinnias so she can pick as many as she
wants, and it attracts loads of those butterflys that she loves. We made a
picture a few weeks ago from shapes that I cut out and she glued, of
construction paper. It disappeared from the refrigerator, and I saw this
light in her face when I said "We'll just have to make another on." She
didn't realize that we could do it again! Then she wanted to duplicate the
first picture exactly-I suggested making it a night picture, and we made
stars and a moon instead of a sun and clouds. You can see the connections
and the ideas growing in her mind as the possabilities opened up for her.
And I get to share it all-I get to see all the things that I have taken for
granted through these new eyes. I get to feel the joy and wonder at flowers
and falling leaves and the magic that happens to a cookie through the window
of the oven door. We share in the learning-I may be the one who knows how to
cut the shapes or mix the dough, but she is the one teaching how wonderful
it is to be able to.
Gosh, thanks for getting me inspired to write all of this-I think that now
with my house all quiet and the sun coming up I will turn off the computer
and take my coffee to the garden! I have 4 more kids, so maybe tomorrow I
will write of another of my teachers.
Love, Cathie
>From: JENNIFE30@...________________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] indigo children
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:13:26 EDT
>
>Thanks for this interview! I got the book some months ago after having
>many
>people recommend it after meeting my daughter. It is very clear that she
>is
>a great teacher and my whole life has changed by having her.
>
> She does not fit in. She just doesn't. She has her own agenda and is
>very
>intelligent. Her second grade teacher told me she wasn't just asking
>questions, she was providing alternative ways to teach the lesson itself.
>Needless to say, this did not go over well in a typical classroom.
>
> I've found my major 'job' as her mother is to get out of her way. She
>has a
>great heart, but she also speaks her mind. I have found there are a lot of
>adults that still believe in the 'be seen and not heard' child, and those
>adults have a big problem with her. The ones that don't think of children
>as
>inferior and as little people they need to 'control' actually 'hear' her
>and
>are amazed at the things that come out of her at times! She also seems to
>naturally gravitate to people who are open and receptive to her and who
>treat
>her as an equal and to shy away from those who see her as less. She has a
>hard time relating to a lot of kids and her best friends are other adults.
>She just walks right up to people and starts conversations and she's done
>this ever since she could walk and talk. I never discouraged this, and it
>taught me how friendly and wonderful people actually are, as I would end up
>in the conversation when I came to get her. She opened up my whole world.
>I have heard 'she's going to be president someday' so many times I can't
>tell
>you, but, I really have no idea what her path is and what she came here to
>do. I am only here to support and encourage her and that by being her
>teacher to never forget that I am also her student.
>
>I am very grateful to books like Indigo Children because it comes from the
>perspective that there is nothing to 'fix', nothing to manipulate or
>control,
>only to understand and work with. And that these are not characteristics
>to
>merely tolerate, but to accept and love because they are a part of
>themselves, that, given expression in the right arena, will prove to be
>their
>contribution to the world.
>
>Jennifer
>
>
>
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Cathie,
What a beautiful post! I almost felt like I was there in you garden with
you......
Julie
What a beautiful post! I almost felt like I was there in you garden with
you......
Julie
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Jenny sounds like a great teacher Cathie! I loved your post!! Ariel is 9
and when she was at Jenny's age she had that sense of just loving the world.
I saw that disappear to a certain degree when she went into school for three
years. I'm so fortunate I'm able to be home with her now! We've been home
one year and I see that enthusiasm for life coming back.
She had taught me how to 'see' a butterfly again and reminded me how
wonderful and mysterious the world around us really is. I had forgotten.
Since she is so intuitive, she reminds me of those innate abilities I had
shut off for so many years. Now that I think about it, I mostly run my life
now through intuitive/gut feelings because I have found they never steer me
wrong. Since I have started doing that, my life is 100% better. I know I
wouldn't be the same person without her , she woke me up and made me remember
who I am.
I was looking through the book again and see that they do talk about things
like auras, and it is definitely a 'new agey' kind of book. I've had so many
experiences though, of things that the book talks about. One of my friends
said when his daughter was young she used to see 'colors' around people, and
I know my daughter has telekinetic abilities, she showed me once, but said
she never wanted to use it to make money or anything because that would be
wrong. She was so matter of fact about the whole thing. It suprised me at
first, but there was a part that wasn't suprised at all, that knows there is
so much more going on here than we can imagine. I guess the natural reaction
is to be scared of something we don't understand, but, why? Oh well.
Thanks for your posts guys, oh, and a quote I heard recently, twice this week
actually, don't know who it said it originally--
The soul would rather fail at it's own life
Than succeed at someone else's.
Really liked that one,,,inspiring, and also helps me to remember that my
daughter is a wise old soul who already knows a lot of things.
Love,,,,Jennifer
and when she was at Jenny's age she had that sense of just loving the world.
I saw that disappear to a certain degree when she went into school for three
years. I'm so fortunate I'm able to be home with her now! We've been home
one year and I see that enthusiasm for life coming back.
She had taught me how to 'see' a butterfly again and reminded me how
wonderful and mysterious the world around us really is. I had forgotten.
Since she is so intuitive, she reminds me of those innate abilities I had
shut off for so many years. Now that I think about it, I mostly run my life
now through intuitive/gut feelings because I have found they never steer me
wrong. Since I have started doing that, my life is 100% better. I know I
wouldn't be the same person without her , she woke me up and made me remember
who I am.
I was looking through the book again and see that they do talk about things
like auras, and it is definitely a 'new agey' kind of book. I've had so many
experiences though, of things that the book talks about. One of my friends
said when his daughter was young she used to see 'colors' around people, and
I know my daughter has telekinetic abilities, she showed me once, but said
she never wanted to use it to make money or anything because that would be
wrong. She was so matter of fact about the whole thing. It suprised me at
first, but there was a part that wasn't suprised at all, that knows there is
so much more going on here than we can imagine. I guess the natural reaction
is to be scared of something we don't understand, but, why? Oh well.
Thanks for your posts guys, oh, and a quote I heard recently, twice this week
actually, don't know who it said it originally--
The soul would rather fail at it's own life
Than succeed at someone else's.
Really liked that one,,,inspiring, and also helps me to remember that my
daughter is a wise old soul who already knows a lot of things.
Love,,,,Jennifer
Nanci and Thomas Kuykendall
>I know I wouldn't be the same person without her , she woke me up >and made me remember who I am.Love,,,,Jennifer
>.....quote I heard recently, twice this week
>actually, don't know who it said it originally--
>The soul would rather fail at it's own life
>Than succeed at someone else's.
>Really liked that one,,,inspiring, and also helps me to remember >that my daughter is a wise old soul who already knows a lot of >things.
These are such lovely thoughts Jennifer, and I so agree. Thank you so much for sharing!
Nanci K.
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