Annette Naake

I consider myself a very conventional middle-of-the-road person, not nearly
as "radical" as some of my fellow list members, but I do believe deeply that
if women don't have the right to control what goes on in our own bodies, we
have no rights at all. And furthermore, as we work for responsible
stewardship of the earth, the first thing we need do is to try to keep the
human population (especially in the resource-gobbling Western nations)
growing as slowly as possible, and terminating pregnancies (as early as
possible, of course) along with other types of contraception, has to be an
option.
Annette


>Anyway, the past is the past, what has
>happened, happened. It is the horrors and
>attrocities TODAY that need attention.
>For example: child abuse ~ in it's most
>heinous form - abortion . . . . and this
>crosses ALL races! It doesn't matter if
>you are black or white or native American
>or whatever - all you have to be is tiny
>and silent and hidden in your mother's
>womb . . . . and you have less rights in
>the entire history of mankind.
>
>Cynthia


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> have no rights at all. And furthermore, as we work for responsible
> stewardship of the earth, the first thing we need do is to try to keep the
> human population (especially in the resource-gobbling Western nations)
> growing as slowly as possible, and terminating pregnancies (as early as

Fortunately, the Western nations are already growing at a snail's pace. Many
aren't even at replacement levels, and grow only through immigration. Even
the US is fairly close to that point. Female literacy and choice seems to
make a big difference.

I've also seen a claim that Europe, or at least northwestern Europe and its
descendant cultures, haven't grown as fast as it could have for a long time,
due to its culture. To whit: a couple was expected to be able to establish
itself as an independent household before marrying (and breeding.) Sort of a
taboo against having more than one couple under the same roof, unlike in many
Asian cultures. This makes a nice brake on population growth: if land (or
other resources) was scarce marriage ages and rates would rise and drop.

In fact, a marriage age in the mid-to-late twenties is not all that modern in
Europe; American had lower marriage ages due to the frontier history, where it
was relatively trivial to set up your own household. And many people never
got married, swelling the potential servant class.

(Or potential criminal class, since permanently unattached males aren't
maximally stable.)

Maybe some kid would be interested in fact-checking all this. :) (Also
correlate with ages and expectations in fiction, such as Jane Austen...)

-xx- Damien X-)

(For the record, I'm pro-abortion, but don't want to help a flamewar.)