Earth Moon

>
>I'm with you on this one... It's so frustrating to know that the majority of
>people in "westernized cultures" can't live out of their box or comfort
>zone...It's the conditioning people have to blindly go like sheep to the
>slaughter and not to consider other alternatives... I'm finding there is
>absolute no point in talking to those people because (a) I usually have
>nothing in common with them, because of their mentality (b) it only
>frustrates me that people don't understand and don't really want to.
>
>Dawn F

Ugh, I hear everybody on this one. If I have to explain the screwed up
concept of 'socialization' one more time, I'll scream.
Am I an intolerant bitch? Probably :P But I just have no patience with
people not even WILLING to entertain the idea that our culture and its
institutions are essentially flawed and maybe that is at the root of crime,
depression and general oppression :(


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nurturing natural to our species.

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In a message dated 8/11/2000 3:31:39 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< I got into a very
heated discussion with two school at home moms yesterday. They were
practically rolling there eyes when I said that we unschool. I could almost
hear them thinking "so you do nothing all day and your kids don't learn
anything". >>

Hi Amy:

I'm with you on this one... It's so frustrating to know that the majority of
people in "westernized cultures" can't live out of their box or comfort
zone...It's the conditioning people have to blindly go like sheep to the
slaughter and not to consider other alternatives... I'm finding there is
absolute no point in talking to those people because (a) I usually have
nothing in common with them, because of their mentality (b) it only
frustrates me that people don't understand and don't really want to.

I'd love to change the world and have it widely accepted... The only way I
can do that is to live it and when people see by example what's happening to
my children, maybe they'll want to look a little closer and see how they got
that way.

I know and understand the feeling of frustration though... Keep up your
belief's...

Dawn F

Tracy Oldfield

the old empathetic thing of identifying a concern of theirs, naming
their feelings, could be a way into such people's minds... showing
you're thinking about how they feel about it can help them think
about how you see things. Then you can tell them what you think
without it seeming like an attack on their way of life. M2pW :-)

Tracy

On 11 Aug 2000, at 9:51, NumoAstro@... wrote:

Hi Amy:

I'm with you on this one... It's so frustrating to know
that the majority of 
people in "westernized cultures" can't live out of
their box or comfort 
zone...It's the conditioning people have to blindly go
like sheep to the 
slaughter and not to consider other alternatives... I'm
finding there is 
absolute no point in talking to those people because
(a) I usually have 
nothing in common with them, because of their mentality
(b) it only 
frustrates me that people don't understand and don't
really want to.

I'd love to change the world and have it widely
accepted... The only way I 
can do that is to live it and when people see by
example what's happening to 
my children, maybe they'll want to look a little closer
and see how they got 
that way.

I know and understand the feeling of frustration
though... Keep up your 
belief's...

Dawn F