Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] goats
aworthen
Believe almost all the stories you hear
and ate their dog! It was horrible! I don't know if those of you with more
goat experience are familiar with how they get along with domesticated
animals, but that's what turned me off from ever wanting a goat.
Amy
> about goats eating everything in sight. Most of them are true, with theWhen I was little we had a neighbor that had a goat and it attacked, killed
> exception of small children and tin cans. LOL
and ate their dog! It was horrible! I don't know if those of you with more
goat experience are familiar with how they get along with domesticated
animals, but that's what turned me off from ever wanting a goat.
Amy
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From: <braunville@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 4:24 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] goats
> In a message dated 7/18/2000 8:51:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> hape2day@... writes:
>
> > Are there
> > stores that sell goats milk so I could try it before I
> > make a decission on an animal? Corallyn
>
> Yes, but I don't know how helpful it would be. If you've ever had raw
cow's
> milk, you know that the taste between that and the stuff you get at the
store
> is pretty drastically different! But, go to the cooking aisle at the
grocery
> store, canned milk section and you'll probably find a box or can of goat's
> milk. They may also have it fresh in the dairy section.
>
> I was raised on goat's milk. From 6 yr's old, I helped with the care of
the
> goats. By 10 they were my job entirely...including milking, veterinary
care
> and birthing. It is much easier to handle the care of a goat than a
> cow...especially if you want the whole family involved. Also, goat's milk
is
> often easier to digest than cow's. If allergies are an issue in your
family,
> you may get ahead even more by avoiding allergens in the goats feed. Be
> careful what you feed the goat because the milk flavor changes (i.e. give
it
> lots of peaches or peach peels and you'll get milk that tastes much
different
> than fed only on grain and hay!). (they do like the glue on the
> cans and can be a friendly lot, which leads to 'nibbling' on people. I
never
> received any more injury from a goat than getting my foot stepped on and
> bruised...once.)
>
> Don't bother keeping a billy goat on the same property with a nanny! The
> billy goat hormones/phermones will cause the milk to smell and taste
> different...it can be quite nasty. Besides you only need a billy around
for
> breeding...for that you can transport the nanny for a visit to a local
> breeder or artificial inseminate. Believe me, billy goats smell! Nannies
> only are not at all bad.
>
> I've been out of town (and on no mail) for a few days...so if this little
> rant of mine has nothing at all to do with the current thread...my
apologies!
> It'll either be the start of a new one or cheerfully (I hope!) ignored.
>
> FWIW,
> Eiraul
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Lynda
The kidlets had about 30 goats. The liked the La Mancha's the best because
of their personality. The Nubians and the large white goats were their
least favorites and they sold them off. Nubians are noisy and whiney (yes,
goats can whine <g>) and the white ones were pushy.
They had very few vet bills. They recommended that you get one that has
been dehorned as a goat will use its horns if it has them.
Now, as to Amy's question/comment, we never had any problems with them
being with the other livestock or pets. The barn cats use to sleep with
them at night and the chickens were forever under their feet. As to dogs,
well, they made a wide berth of all the livestock as most will thump dogs
if they get a chance, particularly rams and bucks. Cows with calves and
horses with foals will attack them and donkeys are reknown for hating dogs.
I think people think goats eat tin cans because they will eat the labels
off them <g> They are like little kids and will try anything. Also, don't
hang your laundry or anything else you don't want chewed on or
investigated! Curiousity may have killed the cat, but I think the goats
got there first %-}
Lynda
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of their personality. The Nubians and the large white goats were their
least favorites and they sold them off. Nubians are noisy and whiney (yes,
goats can whine <g>) and the white ones were pushy.
They had very few vet bills. They recommended that you get one that has
been dehorned as a goat will use its horns if it has them.
Now, as to Amy's question/comment, we never had any problems with them
being with the other livestock or pets. The barn cats use to sleep with
them at night and the chickens were forever under their feet. As to dogs,
well, they made a wide berth of all the livestock as most will thump dogs
if they get a chance, particularly rams and bucks. Cows with calves and
horses with foals will attack them and donkeys are reknown for hating dogs.
I think people think goats eat tin cans because they will eat the labels
off them <g> They are like little kids and will try anything. Also, don't
hang your laundry or anything else you don't want chewed on or
investigated! Curiousity may have killed the cat, but I think the goats
got there first %-}
Lynda
----------
> From: aworthen <aworthen@...>the
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] goats
> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:46 AM
>
> Believe almost all the stories you hear
> > about goats eating everything in sight. Most of them are true, with
> > exception of small children and tin cans. LOLkilled
>
> When I was little we had a neighbor that had a goat and it attacked,
> and ate their dog! It was horrible! I don't know if those of you withmore
> goat experience are familiar with how they get along with domesticatedgoat's
> animals, but that's what turned me off from ever wanting a goat.
> Amy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <braunville@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 4:24 AM
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] goats
>
>
> > In a message dated 7/18/2000 8:51:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > hape2day@... writes:
> >
> > > Are there
> > > stores that sell goats milk so I could try it before I
> > > make a decission on an animal? Corallyn
> >
> > Yes, but I don't know how helpful it would be. If you've ever had raw
> cow's
> > milk, you know that the taste between that and the stuff you get at the
> store
> > is pretty drastically different! But, go to the cooking aisle at the
> grocery
> > store, canned milk section and you'll probably find a box or can of
> > milk. They may also have it fresh in the dairy section.of
> >
> > I was raised on goat's milk. From 6 yr's old, I helped with the care
> themilk
> > goats. By 10 they were my job entirely...including milking, veterinary
> care
> > and birthing. It is much easier to handle the care of a goat than a
> > cow...especially if you want the whole family involved. Also, goat's
> isBe
> > often easier to digest than cow's. If allergies are an issue in your
> family,
> > you may get ahead even more by avoiding allergens in the goats feed.
> > careful what you feed the goat because the milk flavor changes (i.e.give
> itand
> > lots of peaches or peach peels and you'll get milk that tastes much
> different
> > than fed only on grain and hay!). (they do like the glue on the
> > cans and can be a friendly lot, which leads to 'nibbling' on people. I
> never
> > received any more injury from a goat than getting my foot stepped on
> > bruised...once.)The
> >
> > Don't bother keeping a billy goat on the same property with a nanny!
> > billy goat hormones/phermones will cause the milk to smell and tastearound
> > different...it can be quite nasty. Besides you only need a billy
> forNannies
> > breeding...for that you can transport the nanny for a visit to a local
> > breeder or artificial inseminate. Believe me, billy goats smell!
> > only are not at all bad.little
> >
> > I've been out of town (and on no mail) for a few days...so if this
> > rant of mine has nothing at all to do with the current thread...myignored.
> apologies!
> > It'll either be the start of a new one or cheerfully (I hope!)
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > FWIW,
> > Eiraul
> >
> >
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In a message dated 7/19/2000 3:52:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
aworthen@... writes:
other animals and goats. Kept the chickens and goats in the same enclosure
and still had eggs and milk and no bad encounters between the goats and
chickens.
I would definitely keep the goats in a penned area (if you can! We had some
that were escape artists!) Generally they are quite smart and very
inquisitive.
We had very few vet bills with our goats. In fact, I don't recall ever
having them go to the vet. Occasional sores that would fester and need
attention (clean it out and apply tobacco was our solution), keep their feet
trimmed, brush them daily (we did it just before putting them on the milking
stand...not sure if it was for the good of the goat or to keep the hairs out
of the milk, but definitely knew when I hadn't done a good job before hand
because of how much hair got into the milk!). Birthing, of course. Never
had any problems with any of those either. Allowed the kids to nurse for a
short time (week or two), then bottle fed the kids which were sold, given
away or fattened for slaughter. I don't recall any deaths of kids at
birthing and we only had one occasion where we needed to put down an adult.
You can get vaccinations, antibiotics and other health care supplies at the
local feed store and do all that yourself, if you are willing.
I guess a lot depends on how much of a do-it-yourselfer you are.
FWIW,
Eiraul
aworthen@... writes:
> I don't know if those of you with moreWe had different breeds of goats for 10+ years and never had problems with
> goat experience are familiar with how they get along with domesticated
> animals, but that's what turned me off from ever wanting a goat.
> Amy
other animals and goats. Kept the chickens and goats in the same enclosure
and still had eggs and milk and no bad encounters between the goats and
chickens.
I would definitely keep the goats in a penned area (if you can! We had some
that were escape artists!) Generally they are quite smart and very
inquisitive.
We had very few vet bills with our goats. In fact, I don't recall ever
having them go to the vet. Occasional sores that would fester and need
attention (clean it out and apply tobacco was our solution), keep their feet
trimmed, brush them daily (we did it just before putting them on the milking
stand...not sure if it was for the good of the goat or to keep the hairs out
of the milk, but definitely knew when I hadn't done a good job before hand
because of how much hair got into the milk!). Birthing, of course. Never
had any problems with any of those either. Allowed the kids to nurse for a
short time (week or two), then bottle fed the kids which were sold, given
away or fattened for slaughter. I don't recall any deaths of kids at
birthing and we only had one occasion where we needed to put down an adult.
You can get vaccinations, antibiotics and other health care supplies at the
local feed store and do all that yourself, if you are willing.
I guess a lot depends on how much of a do-it-yourselfer you are.
FWIW,
Eiraul
Corallyn Berger
Okay. Now I am convinced that I want a goat instead of
a milk cow. Just wondering though what the general
cost of purchase is a goat. And I assume that I should
get one that already has a kid. Anything else I should
know that hasn't already been said. Oh, I just told DH
that I wanted a goat instead. He thinks I'm crazy for
wanting any of these animals to begin with. He's a
city boy and so is his family. Oh-well...I will learn
him the ways of the country. : -)
Oh, how much space should I allow for a goat that is
pend up? Corallyn
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a milk cow. Just wondering though what the general
cost of purchase is a goat. And I assume that I should
get one that already has a kid. Anything else I should
know that hasn't already been said. Oh, I just told DH
that I wanted a goat instead. He thinks I'm crazy for
wanting any of these animals to begin with. He's a
city boy and so is his family. Oh-well...I will learn
him the ways of the country. : -)
Oh, how much space should I allow for a goat that is
pend up? Corallyn
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Nubians are very noisy! Like the siamese cat of the goat world <g> As to
run off?? Well, how good are your fences?? They are THE escape artists of
all time! But, they always come home!
Lynda
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run off?? Well, how good are your fences?? They are THE escape artists of
all time! But, they always come home!
Lynda
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> From: Annette Naake <naake1999@...>good
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] goats
> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 9:59 AM
>
>
>
> I have always wanted a goat! We live in the city and although we have a
> size back yard for here, i have heard there are no farm animals allowedin
> the city limits. SIGH!!! I woudl think a girl goat, if they don't smell,make
> wouldn't be any more annoying to neighbors than a dog though. Do goats
> noise or try to run off?
>
> Annette
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