HSLDA and National Guard
nmcvick
Please read this.
Who else plans to contact the National Guard to find out exactly why only those support groups associated with HSLDA are allowed to attest to to a homeschooler' status as graduate.
http://www.nationalguard.com/explore/homeschool/requirements.php
Nancy McVicker
New Jersey Homeschool Association
Who else plans to contact the National Guard to find out exactly why only those support groups associated with HSLDA are allowed to attest to to a homeschooler' status as graduate.
http://www.nationalguard.com/explore/homeschool/requirements.php
Nancy McVicker
New Jersey Homeschool Association
Dan Lake
The requirements page sounds like just about any parent, school, curriculum
provider, or organization could provide third party verification of
graduation or completion of a curriculum. Where does it say that a student
or their organization must be HSLDA members?
http://www.hslda.org/highschool/military-ng.asp
~Dan
provider, or organization could provide third party verification of
graduation or completion of a curriculum. Where does it say that a student
or their organization must be HSLDA members?
http://www.hslda.org/highschool/military-ng.asp
~Dan
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM, nmcvick <nmcvick@...> wrote:
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> Please read this.
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> Who else plans to contact the National Guard to find out exactly why only
> those support groups associated with HSLDA are allowed to attest to to a
> homeschooler' status as graduate.
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> http://www.nationalguard.com/explore/homeschool/requirements.php
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> Nancy McVicker
> New Jersey Homeschool Association
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Robyn L. Coburn
> The requirements page sounds like just about any parent, school,I read the pages, and I thought that the info was worded to make it seem
> curriculum
> provider, or organization could provide third party verification of
> graduation or completion of a curriculum. Where does it say that a student
> or their organization must be HSLDA members?>>>
like membership ("in good standing") of HSLDA was not so much a requirement
but very, very helpful - put forward as the easiest way to verify home
school graduation. As usual that organization is putting a fear mongering
spin on a process that should be straightforward.
However, parents should still look to the education statutes in their home
state for confirmation. For example, I'm in California where there is no
such thing in the legalese as "home schooling". There are independent study
programs operated by public, charter or private schools. My dd will, in due
course, be graduating from a registered private school, not as a "home
schooler".
Robyn L. Coburn
www.Iggyjingles.etsy.com
www.iggyjingles.blogspot.com
www.allthingsdoll.blogspot.com
nmcvick
--- In [email protected], Dan Lake <danthedad@...> wrote:
Yes, I did read the entire list.
Option a):
Here in New Jersey, homeschoolers are not under the authority of the public schools. The State Department of Education does not issue diplomas. Diplomas are issued by either public schools or school districts, or by private or parochial schools, or are earned via GED, or are given by parents.
Most homeschooled kids in NJ who do go through the diploma ceremony do so with their local support group, not a "state-wide homeschool association".
State homeschool organizations in NJ do not oversee homeschoolers, Therefore, any diploma granted at a graduation ceremony has no more validity than one granted in a family's living room ceremony, or with no ceremony at all.
Option b)
Many homeschooler create their own individualized learning program for their kids. Most do so because it is best for their child. Many do so because they can't afford to enroll in an umbrella school.
(Since when does a "curriculum developer" determine which homeschoolers have actually benefited from their materials? If they are not grading assignments, how would they know?)
Option c) - "third party verification memorandum"
1) In NJ, the State DOE does not oversee home education. Neither does any public school or school district. Again, this option is nonexistent.
2) How would HSLDA know whether any homeschooled student has actually completed high school?
3) Again, see Option A.
4) Since NJ homeschoolers do not fall under the authority of public schools, families would have to pay a teacher or "educational consultant" for the dubious privilege of having their grad's learning assessed and "approved". Or they could hire "person with a graduate degree in education".
As if teachers' college graduate is suddenly the standard to which homeschooling parents should strain to reach. </sarcasm>
Bottom line: NJ homeschool grads would find the least expensive way to have their education "approved"... would be to join HSLDA!
Gosh, what a way to boost falling membership rates!
</sarcasm> (Sorry, that sarcasm switch is so loose...)
Rumors have gone around for many years now, saying that HSLDA wants to set itself up as an approval authority, in much the way they set up the Richmans in Pennsylvania.
Isn't it nice of the National Guard to assist them?
</sarcasm> (Darned switch!)
On the other hand, if simply attending a graduation ceremony hosted by a "state-wide homeschool association" is adequate to prove that a kids has an education, then why not simply accept the diploma and transcript straight from the parents?
Nancy McVicker
>Here's what I posted elsewhere:
> The requirements page sounds like just about any parent, school, >curriculum provider, or organization could provide third party >verification of graduation or completion of a curriculum.
Yes, I did read the entire list.
Option a):
Here in New Jersey, homeschoolers are not under the authority of the public schools. The State Department of Education does not issue diplomas. Diplomas are issued by either public schools or school districts, or by private or parochial schools, or are earned via GED, or are given by parents.
Most homeschooled kids in NJ who do go through the diploma ceremony do so with their local support group, not a "state-wide homeschool association".
State homeschool organizations in NJ do not oversee homeschoolers, Therefore, any diploma granted at a graduation ceremony has no more validity than one granted in a family's living room ceremony, or with no ceremony at all.
Option b)
Many homeschooler create their own individualized learning program for their kids. Most do so because it is best for their child. Many do so because they can't afford to enroll in an umbrella school.
(Since when does a "curriculum developer" determine which homeschoolers have actually benefited from their materials? If they are not grading assignments, how would they know?)
Option c) - "third party verification memorandum"
1) In NJ, the State DOE does not oversee home education. Neither does any public school or school district. Again, this option is nonexistent.
2) How would HSLDA know whether any homeschooled student has actually completed high school?
3) Again, see Option A.
4) Since NJ homeschoolers do not fall under the authority of public schools, families would have to pay a teacher or "educational consultant" for the dubious privilege of having their grad's learning assessed and "approved". Or they could hire "person with a graduate degree in education".
As if teachers' college graduate is suddenly the standard to which homeschooling parents should strain to reach. </sarcasm>
Bottom line: NJ homeschool grads would find the least expensive way to have their education "approved"... would be to join HSLDA!
Gosh, what a way to boost falling membership rates!
</sarcasm> (Sorry, that sarcasm switch is so loose...)
Rumors have gone around for many years now, saying that HSLDA wants to set itself up as an approval authority, in much the way they set up the Richmans in Pennsylvania.
Isn't it nice of the National Guard to assist them?
</sarcasm> (Darned switch!)
On the other hand, if simply attending a graduation ceremony hosted by a "state-wide homeschool association" is adequate to prove that a kids has an education, then why not simply accept the diploma and transcript straight from the parents?
Nancy McVicker