Andrea Roher

Okay, any pointers on when to use which or which you prefer? I find I
alternate between the two, sometimes even in the same document, so I'm
looking for some help to become a bit more consistent. :)

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Andrea L. Roher
-aka- Evenstar75@...
Searching for my place in "Life, the Universe, and Everything" one day
at a time.
Maybe I've finally found it... in NH! (www.FreeStateProject.org)
Visit my blog at evenstar75.blogspot.com

Sandra Dodd

On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Andrea Roher wrote:

> Okay, any pointers on when to use which or which you prefer? I find I
> alternate between the two, sometimes even in the same document, so I'm
> looking for some help to become a bit more consistent. :)


This really IS off topic! So I'm taking the question out to a larger
form. How do unschooling parents find out things like that? You
could ask in places like this (and my answer is down below), but...

The best way to find answers to things like this, if you have your
home library close at hand, is something like Fowler's Modern English
Usage. It's probably easy to come by at used book stores, or cheap
from Amazon (checking... Oooh! They have a hardcover of the 1937
edition for $6.27. And used paperbacks of a pocket version from $1.94).

if you're sitting in front of a computer, use google with the two
words and "usage."

Grey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Usage, symbolism and colloquial expressions. Grey symbolises
mediocrity, the background noise. "Grey life", meaning mere existence
without much sense or ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey - 25k - Cached - Similar pages

The Difference Between Gray and Grey, Bernie Zimmermann

Like Dave, I too would like to see 'grey' returned to common usage.
Arrow Beck Murzayev October 17, 2004 5:52 PM. ColoUr is the British
spelling, so is grEy ...
www.bernzilla.com/item.php?id=232 - 67k - Cached - Similar pages

Grey, grey, greyer, greys, Greys, greyest, greying, greyed ...

Adjective: grey (greyer,greyest) grey Usage: Brit, Cdn (=gray). Of an
achromatic colour of any lightness intermediate between the extremes
of white and ...
www.wordwebonline.com/en/GREY - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

It's Gray not Grey

And the correct orthography is. its gray not grey. ... While Dr
Johnson and some other Lexographers argue the usage is gray, a survey
conducted in 1893 by ...
www.webmasterworld.com/forum36/2280.htm - Similar pages

===============



I was told by a teacher I trusted long ago that in American usage (I
don't know which way Canadians lean on this one), "grey" was poetic
now, and had to do not with color, but with mood and feeling and
weather. "A grey day" was okay, to describe the appearance and
feeling of a subdued or sad day, but a crayon or a bucket of paint
would be "gray." Maybe, I guess, a day where the sky was quite
overcast but people were happy would be "gray" and not "grey."

OOOH! The Wikipedia site has some great useage notes!!
Grey is a good color to wear during lent it says, because it's the
color of ashes. COOL!
And brains are referred to as "grey matter."
So there are phrases in which the -ey spelling is particularly used.

No simple answers, but if you just want to say what color a couch or
wallpaper is, without emotionally coloring it (oh! Good Freudian
slip, if Freud had been an interior designer), "gray."

Sandra






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elainegh8

In the UK it is always grey. Gray is a mispelling here.


BWS Elaine (UK)

katherand2003

Aw. I wanna use grey. That's cool that it isn't a hard and fast
spelling rule. Unless of course you have it on a spelling test in
school. ;) Then you could argue your point or not.

Kathe





--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...>
wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Andrea Roher wrote:
>
> > Okay, any pointers on when to use which or which you prefer? I find I
> > alternate between the two, sometimes even in the same document, so I'm
> > looking for some help to become a bit more consistent. :)
>
>
> This really IS off topic! So I'm taking the question out to a larger
> form. How do unschooling parents find out things like that? You
> could ask in places like this (and my answer is down below), but...
>
> The best way to find answers to things like this, if you have your
> home library close at hand, is something like Fowler's Modern English
> Usage. It's probably easy to come by at used book stores, or cheap
> from Amazon (checking... Oooh! They have a hardcover of the 1937
> edition for $6.27. And used paperbacks of a pocket version from $1.94).
>
> if you're sitting in front of a computer, use google with the two
> words and "usage."
>
> Grey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>
> Usage, symbolism and colloquial expressions. Grey symbolises
> mediocrity, the background noise. "Grey life", meaning mere existence
> without much sense or ...
> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
>
> The Difference Between Gray and Grey, Bernie Zimmermann
>
> Like Dave, I too would like to see 'grey' returned to common usage.
> Arrow Beck Murzayev October 17, 2004 5:52 PM. ColoUr is the British
> spelling, so is grEy ...
> www.bernzilla.com/item.php?id=232 - 67k - Cached - Similar pages
>
> Grey, grey, greyer, greys, Greys, greyest, greying, greyed ...
>
> Adjective: grey (greyer,greyest) grey Usage: Brit, Cdn (=gray). Of an
> achromatic colour of any lightness intermediate between the extremes
> of white and ...
> www.wordwebonline.com/en/GREY - 14k - Cached - Similar pages
>
> It's Gray not Grey
>
> And the correct orthography is. its gray not grey. ... While Dr
> Johnson and some other Lexographers argue the usage is gray, a survey
> conducted in 1893 by ...
> www.webmasterworld.com/forum36/2280.htm - Similar pages
>
> ===============
>
>
>
> I was told by a teacher I trusted long ago that in American usage (I
> don't know which way Canadians lean on this one), "grey" was poetic
> now, and had to do not with color, but with mood and feeling and
> weather. "A grey day" was okay, to describe the appearance and
> feeling of a subdued or sad day, but a crayon or a bucket of paint
> would be "gray." Maybe, I guess, a day where the sky was quite
> overcast but people were happy would be "gray" and not "grey."
>
> OOOH! The Wikipedia site has some great useage notes!!
> Grey is a good color to wear during lent it says, because it's the
> color of ashes. COOL!
> And brains are referred to as "grey matter."
> So there are phrases in which the -ey spelling is particularly used.
>
> No simple answers, but if you just want to say what color a couch or
> wallpaper is, without emotionally coloring it (oh! Good Freudian
> slip, if Freud had been an interior designer), "gray."
>
> Sandra
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[email protected]

Oooh. This one bit me in fourth grade. I read voraciously and had just
finished reading a book about a "grey" horse when this word came up on a spelling
test. I got it wrong (I think it was the only one I missed), went and
double-checked my book, and there it was in black-and-white. I briefly thought of
taking the book to the teacher and arguing my point, but I figured I knew the
answer I get and it wouldn't change my grade, and I think of it every time I
spell the word to this day! It also helps me to rein myself in when I want to
correct my 6 year old's "unique" spellings. Some times I *just* want to say,
"You know, its usually spelled ____." But spelling is not always so
black-and-white... there are so many shades of GREY! :~)

Peace,
Sang


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Sandra Dodd

On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:32 AM, Sanguinegirl83@... wrote:

> Oooh. This one bit me in fourth grade. I read voraciously and had just
> finished reading a book about a "grey" horse when this word came up
> on a spelling
> test. I got it wrong (I think it was the only one I missed), went and
> double-checked my book, and there it was in black-and-white.


District spelling bee, 6th grade. I spelled "woolly" and was booted
OUT.
My mom took me for a chocolate milkshake, but I could hardly drink
it. I was so frustrated.
I went home and looked it up. "Woolly" was the british spelling and
so was wrong.

I learned it on a set of cards we had called "Animal Rummy," which
had four cards marked "woolly lamb."

"Wooly" had never come up in school, nor in any books I had read that
I could remember (and I had read a LOT), but I was a very visual
speller, and I had a clear vision of that woolly lamb card. <g>

Sandra

kstjonn

--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd
<Sandra@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:32 AM, Sanguinegirl83@... wrote:
>
> > Oooh. This one bit me in fourth grade. I read voraciously and
had just
> > finished reading a book about a "grey" horse when this word came
up
> > on a spelling
> > test. I got it wrong (I think it was the only one I missed),
went and
> > double-checked my book, and there it was in black-and-white.
>
>
> District spelling bee, 6th grade. I spelled "woolly" and was
booted
> OUT.
> My mom took me for a chocolate milkshake, but I could hardly
drink
> it. I was so frustrated.
> I went home and looked it up. "Woolly" was the british spelling
and
> so was wrong.
>
> I learned it on a set of cards we had called "Animal Rummy,"
which
> had four cards marked "woolly lamb."
>
> "Wooly" had never come up in school, nor in any books I had read
that
> I could remember (and I had read a LOT), but I was a very visual
> speller, and I had a clear vision of that woolly lamb card. <g>
>
> Sandra
>


This reminds me of the time I lost a spelling bee because I
pronounced "n" as "ehn" instead of with my usual Southern
accent "eeyun." I was in the 8th grade and trying to hammer out my
accent a bit. (I wasn't ashamed of it...just trying out new things)

Sandra Dodd

On Mar 29, 2006, at 3:12 AM, kstjonn wrote:

> This reminds me of the time I lost a spelling bee because I
> pronounced "n" as "ehn" instead of with my usual Southern
> accent "eeyun." I was in the 8th grade and trying to hammer out my
> accent a bit. (I wasn't ashamed of it...just trying out new things)

So they thought you had said "m" or what?

When I was little I lived in Texas, where my name had five
syllables. Well now at "Sandra Dodd" it has three in most dialects
and accents, but my Papaw (grandfather on my mom's side) called me
"Sandra Lynn" and not only did the dipthongs turn it into five
syllables, it took a long time to say it in his slow way of
speaking. Kind of "Say-an-druh Leeyun."
Some of the older people in SE New Mexico still talk that way too,
but we moved to Northern New Mexico when I was six, and my name sped
up and shortened.

Sandra

wifetovegman2002

--- In [email protected], "kstjonn" <kara@...> wrote:
>

> >
> > District spelling bee, 6th grade. I spelled "woolly" and was
> booted
> > OUT.
> > My mom took me for a chocolate milkshake, but I could hardly
> drink
> > it. I was so frustrated.
> > I went home and looked it up. "Woolly" was the british spelling
> and
> > so was wrong.
> >


Hey, Sandra, I was at the Washington DC National Zoo on Monday, and
the display in the elephant house showed a mammoth, and it was spelled
"Woolly Mammoth" and I immediately thought of you!



Susan M (VA)
http://radicalchristianunschool.homestead.com/index.html

"Real, natural learning is in the living. It's in the observing, the
questioning, the examining, the pondering, the analyzing, the
watching, the reading, the DO-ing, the living, the breathing, the
loving, the Joy. It's in the Joy." ~Anne Ohman

Sandra Dodd

On Mar 29, 2006, at 9:08 AM, wifetovegman2002 wrote:

> Hey, Sandra, I was at the Washington DC National Zoo on Monday, and
> the display in the elephant house showed a mammoth, and it was spelled
> "Woolly Mammoth" and I immediately thought of you!


THANK YOU very much.


Ahhh... (imagine melodramatic posturing and tone here) ... My life
would have been *SO MUCH BETTER* if I had advanced to the state
spelling bee.


But wait. It would have! I would've gotten to go to some other
town! Maybe Albuquerque! (which was exotic to me in those days, for
sure). Maybe just Santa Fe, but still...

My horizons were linguistically broadened though, that day.

Sandra

Drew & Tami

>>> My horizons were linguistically broadened though, that day.

Sandra <<<

Better linguistically than hormonally!

When I was in Jr. High, we did the play "Lil Abner". I was a Dogpatch
girl...(kind of a hillbilly courtesan...) and there was a part of the
dialogue that I've not forgotten:
DaisyMae: But Granny, we just wants to broaden our horizons!

Granny: Your horizons are broad enough already! Particularly yours!

I had NO IDEA what this meant, but the audience always laughed. Come to
think of it, the girl playing Daisy had a pretty good grasp on the physical
aspect of puberty...

Tami, whose own horizons have broadened significantly since Jr. High-- in
lots of ways!



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