Have a Nice Day!

Hi all,

I have very little money right now, especially after Christmas!!!

Can you give me some ideas for what I can do to keep life interesting around here on a daily basis? My kids are 10, 13, and 17.

Thanks1
Kristen

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Sandra Dodd

On Dec 29, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Have a Nice Day! wrote:

> Can you give me some ideas for what I can do to keep life
> interesting around here on a daily basis? My kids are 10, 13, and 17.


If you haven't looked lately, scan through
http://sandradodd.com/checklists
http://sandradodd.com/strewing

One of the links at the strewing page goes to Deb Lewis's List of
Things to Do in the Winter
http://www.sandradodd.com/strew/deblist.html

There are probably lots of internet sites with projects and "boredom
busters" and ideas for things to do on car rides (that wouldn't need
a car ride).

Sandra

Deb Lewis

***Can you give me some ideas for what I can do to keep life interesting
around here on a daily basis? ***

Are you urban, suburban, rural or remote?

Hiking is a year round activity and it's free. If you live where weather
conditions are extreme go prepared and tell someone where you're going,
but really all you need for a good time is an adventurous attitude and
some food.
There's probably a book at your library with maps for day hikes, or you
can blaze your own trail. If you have deep snow borrow snowshoes.

Collect some movies from the library and have a movie marathon. We
recently watched The Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness.

Get random music CD's from the library and listen to stuff you've never
heard before.

Borrow a video camera and make a movie. There's a great movie on Encore
this month called "The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra." It will inspire you.
(Or make you sick, could go either way.<g>)

Can you make a fire in your back yard and roast marshmallows? Do you
live near a park that has a fire pit?

Google your town and state for an events calendar, see if anything
appeals to you. We have found star parties, concerts, plays, frontier
challenge events, tours, all kinds of things.

Have friends over. You don't have to cook a big fancy meal. Put out
some snacks, play games, listen to music, talk, dance, tell jokes.

Borrow some new games from friends or find some different ones at the
thrift store.

Paint a mural on a wall in your kitchen. (or somewhere) We painted
pictographs on the basement walls.
Paint teeny little spiders on your window sills or lizards on your
ceilings. Paint a naked guy on your shower door with tempura paints. <g>


If you have snow, build a snow man. Give him two heads or six arms.
Shoot arrows at him when your finished. Put a hatchet in his head and
spray him with red food coloring. Make snow corpses on your front
lawn. Or a herd of zombies. Take pictures and send them to your
newspaper. Or if you're not so gruesome, build a polar bear or a snow
totem pole. We made snow geese one year. They were beautiful.

Fill large storage containers with water and let them freeze, then carve
ice sculptures. (ask Bruce Campbell to help. <snort>)

Tell us where you live, you might get better ideas.


Deb Lewis

Have a Nice Day!

LOL...

We do many of the things you suggested routinely. I had to laugh at the fire in the backyard and roasting marshmallows! We do that a lot in the summer.

I live in PA, no snow right now. And we do have trails etc, but none of us love to be out in this weather. We live along a river, and railroad tracks. We are in a rural area, a small river town.

I am itching to up and go to Washington DC where all the museums are free. You know what? maybe we'll just do that!

The kids' current interests are burning cd's (we just got a new burner, the other one didn't work). I've been looking for legal websites to use for downloading.

They also do a LOT with IM and Xanga. Sometimes neopets.

AND...they love food. Maybe I'll capitalize on that by having us try out different kinds of foods and different kinds of cooking based on different countries/cultures.

We have friends overnight routinely. Sometimes I buy new things to eat for breakfast, like cinamon rolls, etc.

Currently I'm trying to download pan flute music so I can play it during the day. I want to hear all kinds of music.

I love movies, so I will check out the one you mentioned, sounds like a good one!

There are lots of museums etc around here, but at the moment many of them cost more money than I have. There is one free one in Harrisburg. Maybe we'll go there next week.

Hope that helps. These are many of the routine things we do, though not every day. And yet the kids complain they are bored. I want to spice it up but I'm not sure how.

kristen


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From: Deb Lewis
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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:25 AM
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***Can you give me some ideas for what I can do to keep life interesting
around here on a daily basis? ***

Are you urban, suburban, rural or remote?

Hiking is a year round activity and it's free. If you live where weather
conditions are extreme go prepared and tell someone where you're going,
but really all you need for a good time is an adventurous attitude and
some food.
There's probably a book at your library with maps for day hikes, or you
can blaze your own trail. If you have deep snow borrow snowshoes.

Collect some movies from the library and have a movie marathon. We
recently watched The Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness.

Get random music CD's from the library and listen to stuff you've never
heard before.

Borrow a video camera and make a movie. There's a great movie on Encore
this month called "The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra." It will inspire you.
(Or make you sick, could go either way.<g>)

Can you make a fire in your back yard and roast marshmallows? Do you
live near a park that has a fire pit?

Google your town and state for an events calendar, see if anything
appeals to you. We have found star parties, concerts, plays, frontier
challenge events, tours, all kinds of things.

Have friends over. You don't have to cook a big fancy meal. Put out
some snacks, play games, listen to music, talk, dance, tell jokes.

Borrow some new games from friends or find some different ones at the
thrift store.

Paint a mural on a wall in your kitchen. (or somewhere) We painted
pictographs on the basement walls.
Paint teeny little spiders on your window sills or lizards on your
ceilings. Paint a naked guy on your shower door with tempura paints. <g>


If you have snow, build a snow man. Give him two heads or six arms.
Shoot arrows at him when your finished. Put a hatchet in his head and
spray him with red food coloring. Make snow corpses on your front
lawn. Or a herd of zombies. Take pictures and send them to your
newspaper. Or if you're not so gruesome, build a polar bear or a snow
totem pole. We made snow geese one year. They were beautiful.

Fill large storage containers with water and let them freeze, then carve
ice sculptures. (ask Bruce Campbell to help. <snort>)

Tell us where you live, you might get better ideas.


Deb Lewis
















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Danielle Conger

Have a Nice Day! wrote:

>
> There are lots of museums etc around here, but at the moment many of
> them cost more money than I have. There is one free one in
> Harrisburg. Maybe we'll go there next week.


Just fyi....


Many museums have a reciprocal policy with membership that allow free
access to museums in other areas. Some people have been successful in
keeping costs down by joining museums in a far-away city and having
reciprocal membership with more than one museum in their home city. From
what I understand, they simply went online to research reciprocal
memberships and found the city with the lowest membership fee to join
there.

We just join museums in our own area and more than make up the
membership fee by going just 2 or 3 times over the course of the year,
and we travel enough that we're almost always able to use our
memberships in other cities.

IMO, memberships are more than worth the cost in the freedom they
provide to go at our own pace, see only what we're interested in or feel
up to in the moment--especially wonderful for young kids who don't have
the interest or stamina to do whirlwind tours. I've always just figured
that school-at-homers are spending a fortune on canned curriculum;
membership fees are just part of our "curriculum" costs.

~~Danielle
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Zoos too! If you go to the nearest (largish city) zoo, you should be able to find info on becoming a *Friend of ____ Zoo* and a list of reciprocal zoos around the country. Then if you know you are going to say San Francisco or Omaha or Washington D.C. later in the year, you've already saved the membership fee! Some memberships save on all sorts of things from parking, admission, food, to boarding your dog for the day.
~Nancy



Danielle Conger <danielle.conger@...> wrote:
Just fyi....


Many museums have a reciprocal policy with membership that allow free
access to museums in other areas. Some people have been successful in
keeping costs down by joining museums in a far-away city and having
reciprocal membership with more than one museum in their home city. From
what I understand, they simply went online to research reciprocal
memberships and found the city with the lowest membership fee to join
there.




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Have a Nice Day!

We used to have a reciprocal membership but the museums that offer this have become kind of "boring" to us. The closest ones don't change their stuff very often. The exhibits that do change are small.

And although there are several museums in our area, they are not reciprocal to each other.

The ones I *wish* had reciprocal memberships (like the National Aquarium) don't. I will look into it again though. I wouldn't mind having it if it would be worthwhile.

Kristen
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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] strewing ideas?


Have a Nice Day! wrote:

>
> There are lots of museums etc around here, but at the moment many of
> them cost more money than I have. There is one free one in
> Harrisburg. Maybe we'll go there next week.


Just fyi....


Many museums have a reciprocal policy with membership that allow free
access to museums in other areas. Some people have been successful in
keeping costs down by joining museums in a far-away city and having
reciprocal membership with more than one museum in their home city. From
what I understand, they simply went online to research reciprocal
memberships and found the city with the lowest membership fee to join
there.

We just join museums in our own area and more than make up the
membership fee by going just 2 or 3 times over the course of the year,
and we travel enough that we're almost always able to use our
memberships in other cities.

IMO, memberships are more than worth the cost in the freedom they
provide to go at our own pace, see only what we're interested in or feel
up to in the moment--especially wonderful for young kids who don't have
the interest or stamina to do whirlwind tours. I've always just figured
that school-at-homers are spending a fortune on canned curriculum;
membership fees are just part of our "curriculum" costs.

~~Danielle
Emily (8), Julia (6), Sam (5)
http://www.danielleconger.com/Homeschool/Welcomehome.html

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Danielle Conger

Have a Nice Day! wrote:

>
> And although there are several museums in our area, they are not
> reciprocal to each other.


My understanding was that this was one of the advantages of going with a
membership in another city. Sometimes those will have reciprocal
membership with more than one museum in your home town.

I'm not sure that would really play out, though, because those I belong
to are members of larger associations like Children's Museums or Science
Museums or Zoos, which don't really overlap within a given city.

For someone like me, who lives equi-distant from 2 cities and relatively
close to a couple more, it can be worthwhile because I have multiple
options from which to choose.

*shrug* Maybe worth looking into; maybe not.

~~Danielle
Emily (8), Julia (6), Sam (5)
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Kathleen and David Gehrke

--- NANCY OWENS <nancy-owens@...> wrote:

> Zoos too! If you go to the nearest (largish city)
> zoo, you should be able to find info on becoming a
> *Friend of ____ Zoo* and a list of reciprocal zoos
> around the country. Then if you know you are going
> to say San Francisco or Omaha or Washington D.C.
> later in the year, you've already saved the
> membership fee! Some memberships save on all sorts
> of things from parking, admission, food, to boarding
> your dog for the day.
> ~Nancy
>
>
I saved a bundle doing that. There is a membership in
Ohio that covers childrens museums and zoos.. I think
it is the Booncroft Museum.
Kathleen







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Being between Seattle and Vancouver, we do this a lot,
(Science center, Zoo, Aquarium) and usually go for the
Canadian membership, as we save with the exchange rate
;) (And it's closer :)

Dana
>
> I saved a bundle doing that. There is a membership
> in
> Ohio that covers childrens museums and zoos

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In a message dated 12/30/2005 9:04:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gehrkes@... writes:

> There is a membership in
> Ohio that covers childrens museums and zoos.. I think
> it is the Booncroft Museum.
>

It is Boonshoft and I've heard they have a very long list of other zoos,
museums and places that will accept their memberships. I've also heard it is the
cheapest around here.
http://www.boonshoftmuseum.org

Peace,
Sang


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Deb Lewis

***...had to laugh at the fire in
the backyard and roasting marshmallows! We do that a lot in the
summer.***

It's fun in the winter too! But you said you don't like the outdoor
stuff so much... Really? <g> No feeding ducks, no flying kites? No
Frisbee on skates?

***I am itching to up and go to Washington DC where all the museums are
free.***

Go! If you can afford the gas. You can always take a cooler with snacks.


Antique shops, vintage clothing stores, art galleries and hobby shops are
free. Take a camera to the vintage clothing store, try the clothes, take
pictures.
Sit, read and browse at a book store or linger in the coffee shop. (with
cookies)
If you go to six different places in one afternoon you don't have to stay
at any one place long enough for it to become boring.

Stop at a local cafe and share a big order of French fries.

Ethnic restaurants, for a treat, when you can afford it, -maybe just
order the appetizers- are so fun because you get the atmosphere along
with the food. And when you make different foods at home you could rent
corresponding movies to help supply atmosphere for your meal.

Have adult friends over for conversation. Dylan enjoys our adult friends
I think more than some of our young friends. Adults get to do more and
talk more freely about what they're doing than a lot of younger people.
(unless you're lucky enough to know lots of young unschoolers<g>) Play
Buzzword or Taboo.

Volunteer at the animal shelter one or two mornings a week, if your heart
can take it.
Become a foster parent to a puppy from the pound?

Dylan is lately interested in refinishing furniture and is just starting
on a little rocker.
Maybe, if you have some wooden side chairs each of your kids could
customize one with paints. We have a customized chair painted different
colors, and we've written different quotes down the stiles and spindles
and on the seat and stretchers and crest rail. It's quite artistic. (in
an "oh my god what have we done to this nice old chair" kind of way. <g>)


You could bake cookies for all your friends and then go deliver them,
stay and visit and eat cookies. <g>
When we're feeling like a day isn't interesting enough we usually leave
the house. Lots of times, destination unknown.<g>

Deb Lewis












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Have a Nice Day!

Thank you..I'll be sure to check it out.

I spent some time last night looking up stuff online "things to do in......". I found some interseting stuff that I wouldn't have thought of (how DO I get stuck in such ruts???).

So, I wrote down a few for each month. I want to take the kids on a tour through the Harely Davidson plant in York. And the Farm Show is coming up, which I had forgotten about. I never liked the farm show because its so dang crowded. But thinking of it in a new light (all the opportunities) makes me like it more. You have to pay for the farm show, but I don't think its a lot.

Then there is the National Civil War museum. I think its a bit pricey though so that might have to wait.

And I came across a contest to build a rollercoaster using rollercoaster tycoon. If your rollercoaster is chosen to be built, you win 100,000 for college. WOW.

Then as I was looking through the schedule for Discovery Theater in Wash DC, I came across performers that are called "Panmasters" I think. They do a steel drum routine, and they will be in PA in August I think at the Musikfest. We will go see them. I think that will be awesome. They are also having a Pan Jamboree in May. I don't know where though, so I have to wait and find out. I'd really like to go to that because it will be Steel drummers from all over NY, Baltimore, and Washington DC. That ought to really be something to see!

This is the first summer that I won't be working weekends, so I'll be able to take the kids to more festivals, etc. but thats a few months from now. So, I'll keep looking for stuff for now.

Kristen





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In a message dated 12/30/2005 9:04:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gehrkes@... writes:

> There is a membership in
> Ohio that covers childrens museums and zoos.. I think
> it is the Booncroft Museum.
>

It is Boonshoft and I've heard they have a very long list of other zoos,
museums and places that will accept their memberships. I've also heard it is the
cheapest around here.
http://www.boonshoftmuseum.org

Peace,
Sang


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Have a Nice Day!

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From: Deb Lewis
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: strewing ideas?


***...had to laugh at the fire in
the backyard and roasting marshmallows! We do that a lot in the
summer.***

>>It's fun in the winter too! But you said you don't like the outdoor
stuff so much... Really? <g> No feeding ducks, no flying kites? No
Frisbee on skates? <<
I love outdoor stuff, but not in the winter. BUT...you've convinced me. I'll try it. WHERE do you come up with all these wonderful ideas???? Im saving your emails!

It doesn't help either that the kids all sleep until past noon. By the time they get up, there isn't much time to go do anything. They hop on the computer, and then the day is gone. And we get stuck in ruts like these for a long time.

They did agree a while ago (before my semester break) to getting up earlier, like around 9:30/10. So, maybe we'll give that a go and do these interesting things to keep us motivated (I'm a night owl too when I"m not teaching, so getting up early is rough for me too!).

>>Antique shops, vintage clothing stores, art galleries and hobby shops are
free. Take a camera to the vintage clothing store, try the clothes, take
pictures.
Sit, read and browse at a book store or linger in the coffee shop. (with
cookies)
If you go to six different places in one afternoon you don't have to stay
at any one place long enough for it to become boring. <<<

These are great ideas. Do you really manage 6?? Wow.

>>Ethnic restaurants, for a treat, when you can afford it, -maybe just
order the appetizers- are so fun because you get the atmosphere along
with the food. And when you make different foods at home you could rent
corresponding movies to help supply atmosphere for your meal. <<


LOL, yes, the appetizers, and that would be about it. My kids will probably turn their noses up. But this is something I'd love to do just for fun. We'll do it "just for fun" and not to eat when we're hungry, so that nobody feels like they are getting jipped out of a real meal.

>>Volunteer at the animal shelter one or two mornings a week, if your heart
can take it.
Become a foster parent to a puppy from the pound? <<

Oh my, no way. I wanted to do this last year. But I just can't see all those animals in cages. HOWEVER.....We raised a litter of puppies this year, which was fun. We have two left and I guess we're keeping them (yay!!)

>>Dylan is lately interested in refinishing furniture and is just starting
on a little rocker.<<

Maybe we could find something like that at a thrift store and do it. I'll check. My girls would absolutely love that idea. In fact, maybe we'll do that today.

Deb, I love your ideas! I am downloading different kinds of music to play for when the kids get up in the mornings. I figure maybe we'll hit upon something that sparks an interest. I know it sparks mine!
I have one daughter that wants to go to France, so maybe I'll expand on that a little bit too.
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** Then there is the National Civil War museum. I think its a bit
pricey though so that might have to wait.**

They probably have info on their webpage about whether they have
discount days or group rates. (Many SF museums have one free day a month.)

Special rates for "educators" may also exist.

Betsy

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From: Have a Nice Day! litlrooh@...

WHERE do you come up with all these wonderful ideas???? Im saving your
emails!
-=-=-=-=-

She lives in frigging MONTANA! It's below freezing for more than half the year! If she's not doing these things, she's digging out from under all that snow! Or sitting inside thinking of cool places to go & do! <g>

Cool places. <snicker>

~Kelly, in Columbi-hell, SC where it's sunny and 75 degrees & rising


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> She lives in frigging MONTANA! It's below freezing
> for more than half the year! If she's not doing
> these things, she's digging out from under all that
> snow!

Sadly, most of Montana doesn't get much snow! Now
that I escaped to the friggin OCEAN, my kids actually
got to build their first snowpeople this year!!

Dana
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***WHERE do you come up with all these wonderful ideas???? ***

Anything we do in the summer can be done in the winter, with a little
tweaking, maybe. <g>

***Do you really manage 6?? ***

Or more! But I have one kid. <G> It makes a difference.

***I have one daughter that wants to go to France, so maybe I'll expand
on that a little bit too.***

Contact your nearest French Consulate and get a list of their lending
books and videos. They probably have music too. They'll send you a pile
of free stuff, French magazines, etc. She might have fun with those.

Deb Lewis

Deb Lewis

***Sadly, most of Montana doesn't get much snow! ***

We had snow all November and December until last week. We built snow
dogs peeing on our bushes.
It's forty two degrees and thawing here after two days of freezing rain,
but we did take the sled down the ice in my mom's driveway and I have the
bruises to prove it. Dylan has one scraped and punctured elbow but all
in all it was a thrilling afternoon. <g>
And in the hills there's always enough snow for sledding or snow shoeing
or cross country skiing, even in the sparse years. This winter has been
the first really normal winter, with early snow for about nine years.

I hear it's been an ok year for skiing, too, but I'm not a downhill kind
of girl. Bad knees.

But we still miss Dana. : (

Deb Lewis

Have a Nice Day!

Oh, I'd join you in Columbi hell in a heartbeat. I LOVE warmer weather but not so hot that you roast either.

What is your weather like most of the year. Maybe we'll move there!

Kristen
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From: Have a Nice Day! litlrooh@...

WHERE do you come up with all these wonderful ideas???? Im saving your
emails!
-=-=-=-=-

She lives in frigging MONTANA! It's below freezing for more than half the year! If she's not doing these things, she's digging out from under all that snow! Or sitting inside thinking of cool places to go & do! <g>

Cool places. <snicker>

~Kelly, in Columbi-hell, SC where it's sunny and 75 degrees & rising


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Kathleen and David Gehrke

Montana Rocks.
Kathleen
who also lives in friggin MT but
WHo is planning a trip to the ocean this spring!

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>
> Sadly, most of Montana doesn't get much snow! Now
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> actually
> got to build their first snowpeople this year!!
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Sandra Dodd

On Dec 30, 2005, at 9:22 AM, Have a Nice Day! wrote:

> These are many of the routine things we do, though not every day.
> And yet the kids complain they are bored. I want to spice it up
> but I'm not sure how.

Could you and the kids get interested in sketching?
Maybe you could do some of the same cheap-to-free things, but stop a
while at each place and everyone do a sketch and date it. Keep them
in folders or a box or a drawer. People will get better at drawing
and you'll have a cool record of what you've done and maybe a cool
hobby. And you could photocopy them and the paint on the photocopies
for additional fun along the way. One might become the art for a
family letter or next year's Christmas card, or for a blog page or...

It doesn't need fancy paper or fancy pencils. Used clipboards from
the thriftstore and any old paper and pencils (also probably
available at the thrift store).

Sandra

Sandra Dodd

On Dec 30, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Danielle Conger wrote:

> I've always just figured
> that school-at-homers are spending a fortune on canned curriculum;
> membership fees are just part of our "curriculum" costs.

======================

I've felt that way too.
Unschooling's not going to be absolutely cost-free nor should it be.

If you had kids even in public school there would be absolute costs
that you couldn't get around. To spend less than you would spend if
they were in public school is just not morally or ethically right.
(Spending less than you would if they were in private school or
daycare... heck yeah!)


Sandra

Sandra Dodd

On Dec 30, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Have a Nice Day! wrote:

> -=-We used to have a reciprocal membership but the museums that
> offer this have become kind of "boring" to us. The closest ones
> don't change their stuff very often. The exhibits that do change
> are small.-=-

Double-check yourself that when you say "us" you don't mean yourself.

The way a six year old sees a model train museum won't be the same
way he sees it when he's eight or ten. Same with any museum or park
or toy or movie.

Maybe if they seem boring, pull out that sketch paper. <g>

Maybe you could split up, make sketches, come back and exchange them,
and wander around and find what the other person drew.

You don't have to use a museum as it was intended. Sometimes I used
to make a map of a city park we were playing in, put it in a plastic
sheet protector, and put an X on it with a crayon. I'd bury some
plastic toy there in the sand, or hide it in or at the base of a
tree, and then give the map to the kids (who had been doing something
else). They would have to figure out what direction to hold the map,
and find the toy and then I'd hide it again, wipe that X off with a
tissue and put a new one on. There are lots of ways to keep the same
old park from being the same old thing.

Sandra

Sandra Dodd

> Take a camera to the vintage clothing store, try the clothes, take
> pictures.

Holly and her friends were doing this at a little outdoors clothes
stall in Camden Town, and the people made them stop it. <g> But
yeah, it seems it can be fun! We have some of their photos. <g>

Do the photos near the dressing room, not posing on the street. That
might make the difference.

-=- It doesn't help either that the kids all sleep until past noon.
By the time they get up, there isn't much time to go do anything-=-

That's an unfair argument. Many of the suggestions were quite doable
at night and later.

People sometimes get into the habit of defending their positions to
the point that they will say "can't" and "won't work" even to people
they've ASKED for ideas. Hmmm.... think about that. Because a list
like this doesn't need to have people explaining exactly why the
ideas won't work. Once Deb pours forth her very-many brilliancies,
we can all just wallow in the glorious possibilities. No lists of
why it won't work are helpful.

-=-My kids will probably turn their noses up. -=-

Defeatism in advance is not the least bit of movement toward learning
or experiencing. The don't need to eat a single thing to have fun
sitting in a restaurant with you. And what if they taste
something? Cool. Drinks and appetizers, I think was the general
suggestion, not full expensive meals. And IF a child doesn't like an
expensive meal, it is possible (in the U.S.) to request a box to take
it home in. [Do not try this in Europe; there it's rude and nasty.]

-=-If you go to six different places in one afternoon you don't have
to stay
at any one place long enough for it to become boring. <<<

-=- These are great ideas. Do you really manage 6?? Wow.-=-

She said "if."

In response to a claim that your kids were bored, someone said
"If..." and you saw "six."

The point was you don't have to go to a place for two or three hours
and call it a big outing. You could browse, shop-hop, count the
lunch spot, the parking place, the walk in between them.

-=-We'll do it "just for fun" and not to eat when we're hungry, so
that nobody feels like they are getting jipped out of a real meal.
-=-

This is another indication of negativity. Without even thinking of
which restaurant, and with people SAYING to do it just for fun,
you're bringing up the possibility of future feelings of deprivation.

Don't work from deprivation and assuredness of defeat.
Don't see a failure if you "only manage five."

See the joy in a moment when you step out of the house and the clouds
are beautiful and the air feels sharp and clean, and a bird swoops
by. See the good and the timeless in that, rather than standing
there blind to the world feeling deprived because your kid are still
in bed and they won't like foreign food and you can't afford a museum.

-=- Maybe we could find something like that at a thrift store and do
it. I'll check. -=-

Think (without telling us; it's not important to the list) what you
meant by "I'll check." You'll ask the kids? You'll call the store
and ask? Just go to the thrift store with your kids! If you think
you're looking only for a piece of furniture because some far-away
kid named Dylan is said to be messing with a little rocking chair,
how many hundreds of things will you ignore?

http://sandradodd.com/puddle

Please read that and spend more time looking than listing this week.

Happy New Year!


Sandra

Kimberly Goza

Jumping in on this thread late. But thought I'd pass this on: The best deal
is from Happy Hollow Zoo in San Jose. It includes zoos AND museums
nationwide (only a few near San Jose, Ca are blocked out) for only $60 per
family.
http://www.hhpz.org/getinvolved/membership/becomeAmember.php3

You don't have to live there to get it just visit there web site and send
them an email or call. We've been members for 3 years and have never even
been there.

Kimberly Goza
The ever-nomadic Goza family is currently in Tallahasse, Florida
http://www.activated-storytellers.com



On 12/30/05, NANCY OWENS <nancy-owens@...> wrote:
>
> Zoos too! If you go to the nearest (largish city) zoo, you should be able
> to find info on becoming a *Friend of ____ Zoo* and a list of reciprocal
> zoos around the country. Then if you know you are going to say San Francisco
> or Omaha or Washington D.C. later in the year, you've already saved the
> membership fee! Some memberships save on all sorts of things from parking,
> admission, food, to boarding your dog for the day.
> ~Nancy
>
>


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Betsy Hill

**It doesn't help either that the kids all sleep until past noon.
By the time they get up, there isn't much time to go do anything.**

**My kids will probably turn their noses up.**


The tone and content of these really rang a bell with me, because last
winter I was feeling similarly "stuck" and defeated. People called me
on that on the list, which helped me realize that I was dipping down
into a bit of a seasonal depression. (I put a lot of effort into
preventative steps this year, because I do tend to feel "dark" in the
dark part of the year.)

My son's an evening person. Even when he wakes up earlier, he's not
fired up and happy to do things in the first couple hours that he's up.
It took me awhile to realize that he is more enthusiastic later in the
day. This can be tricky as I'm peppy from 7am to 11am-ish, and I tended
to slowly melt and stop offering things as the day went on. (But one of
our most fun outings last year was an evening movie outdoors in the park.)

Another difference between my son and me is that I'm less content
staying home than he is. (I can only read email for so long!<g>) One
way I can deal with that is to go out by myself when it is feasible.

What can you offer the kids that you KNOW they wouldn't turn down? My
son went through one age when it seemed like the only place he wanted to
go was the toy store. We went there a lot, but didn't always make a
purchase. Even when it seemed like he didn't want to go out at all, he
was always positive about going to parkday with friends and going to
friends houses. I've sometimes said that we don't go to many museums,
but the last time I offered my son a trip to the Monterey Aquarium he
literally jumped for joy, performing a fairly spectacular vertical
maneuver. (This would be at least our 15th trip in 10 years. Depth is
more appealing than breadth to some people.)

(The dynamics are different if your kids want different things and are
competing rather than trying to cooperate.)

Watch out for the potential trap of offering outings that are
"improving" or "educational" or that advance an agenda of your own. (I
like errands that take me past the fabric store -- NOT a good way to
reinforce my son's enjoyment of the day. <g>)

Betsy

PS My brother's start-up company has an events database for the San
Francisco Bay Area that is searchable, and people in my neck of the
woods can use it for outing ideas.

http://www.zvents.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Have a Nice Day! <litlrooh@...>

Oh, I'd join you in Columbi hell in a heartbeat. I LOVE warmer weather but not
so hot that you roast either.

What is your weather like most of the year. Maybe we'll move there!

-==-=-=-
Hot, Hot, and HOT. Columbia's built directly over the entrance to hell. We roast from
mid-April through October. Never a white Christmas---just 69 and sunny. Ice storms in January and February.

But today, I have on jeans and a t-shirt. Bare feet.

I don't recommend it here. I'm trying to move! <g> Western VA mountains keep calling my name, but we're
here for 5-10 more years. Ben's job is too good. We'll sit tight until the boys are out on their own.

But you're welocme to join me here! <G> If you like HOT!

~KellyKelly LovejoyConference CoordinatorLive and Learn Unschooling Conferencehttp://liveandlearnconference.org


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nrskay

Betsy:
Your email rang true for me and my dd. She often sleeps until noon or
so and my best time is in the am. Because I have Fibromyalgia it is a
real struggle for me after 1 or 2 pm to get out and doing stuff. I
make an effort, my dd loves to shop, she's 11. We may not buy
anything but the time together is very precious to both of us.

She's not much of a museum person, but she wants to be a vet. We have
been talking to our vet trying to find one that will let her volunteer
in their office. Also, I'll check out the LA Zoo, they might be
willing to let us volunteer together.

Sandra; your post about the cost of PS or private school - how about
the cost of homeschool curriculum. My dd was so unhappy the year I
brought her home, I tried all kinds of stuff. It seemed that each
month I was ordering new curriculum. The cost of any museum, zoo or
other activities including the cost of gas is far cheaper. Let alone
the advantages of having a very happy child.

Ren Allen

"The cost of any museum, zoo or
other activities including the cost of gas is far cheaper. Let alone
the advantages of having a very happy child."

I've often had an internal dialogue about costs of things. When my
kids want to use up my kitchen flour and other ingredients
for "experiments", my inner reaction is "NO, that's food, it costs a
lot". Luckily logic kicks in and I think "what would you pay for
something they were interested in learning about...what would
curriculum cost if we homeschooled?"

So many things are really not that costly when you think of it that
way. We can have these inner "talks" without our kids ever knowing
too!:)

Ren