Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] OT: Fighting kids
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In a message dated 11/14/05 11:38:04 AM, kim@... writes:
to, he can't learn. So you need to make your child safe. Even when it's
safe from a sibling. That's one way to approach the other sibling too, to
explain that if a stranger came in and started yelling at him or hitting him, you
would act immediately to keep him safe, that it would NOT be okay for someone
to do that to him. And then when he's feeling how good that feels to know
you'll protect him, remind him that you'll protect his brother the same way,
even from him.
Here's something I wrote years back that someone found again for me so I put
it in a safer place:
http://sandradodd.com/peace/fighting
This still works here. Holly was sad yesterday about something Kirby had
said. I asked her if she wanted me to talk to him and she said no, but I
would've been glad to if she thought it would've helped. And it's all based on
how things were untangled when they were little.
Sandra
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> -=-What do you guys do when your kids fight? I am looking for an immediateThis isn't so off topic, is it? If a child doesn't feel safe and attended
> reaction/consequence and long term (how we can encourage peace). -=-
>
to, he can't learn. So you need to make your child safe. Even when it's
safe from a sibling. That's one way to approach the other sibling too, to
explain that if a stranger came in and started yelling at him or hitting him, you
would act immediately to keep him safe, that it would NOT be okay for someone
to do that to him. And then when he's feeling how good that feels to know
you'll protect him, remind him that you'll protect his brother the same way,
even from him.
Here's something I wrote years back that someone found again for me so I put
it in a safer place:
http://sandradodd.com/peace/fighting
This still works here. Holly was sad yesterday about something Kirby had
said. I asked her if she wanted me to talk to him and she said no, but I
would've been glad to if she thought it would've helped. And it's all based on
how things were untangled when they were little.
Sandra
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In a message dated 11/14/05 4:01:19 PM, game-enthusiast@... writes:
"Letting them work it out" often empowers a bully and contributes to the
abuse of one who's losing. Why should a child not be safe in his own home?
And learning how to stave off fights with a sibling is learning skills that
will apply in other situations.
Sandra
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> -=-I get very frustrated when children are fighting and no one steps up toI agree.
> help
> them work it out. I have seen things come to blows that could have been
> nipped in the bud with a little help with communications.-=-
>
"Letting them work it out" often empowers a bully and contributes to the
abuse of one who's losing. Why should a child not be safe in his own home?
And learning how to stave off fights with a sibling is learning skills that
will apply in other situations.
Sandra
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In a message dated 11/14/05 5:17:41 PM, ccoutlaw@... writes:
Probably the fine print says the backup shouldn't be in use while the other
one is.
I read all the fine print recently on Adobe Photo Elements, and you can
install it on a laptop AND a desktop, but not if the two are going to be in use at
the same time.
But copies of one's own music has long been legal and no big deal. If you
put an album on a cassette tape, or now a tape onto a CD... it's a minor
offense if any, and I think this is about the same deal.
Sandra
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> So do we ........ I think you're allowed to make back up discs for your===============
> programs, right? If not, shame on me :)
>
Probably the fine print says the backup shouldn't be in use while the other
one is.
I read all the fine print recently on Adobe Photo Elements, and you can
install it on a laptop AND a desktop, but not if the two are going to be in use at
the same time.
But copies of one's own music has long been legal and no big deal. If you
put an album on a cassette tape, or now a tape onto a CD... it's a minor
offense if any, and I think this is about the same deal.
Sandra
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Liz in AZ
Okay, I'm not an intellectual property authority, but I have looked
into Fair Use rules (check www.nolo.com or www.copyright.gov if
interested) and can say that in order for a backup copy of music or
software to clearly fall under Fair Use it has to be archival--that
is, the original and the copy can *not* be in use simultaneously.
Individual items can, of course, allow for broader copy permissibility
(as in Sandra's example of something that can be loaded on a laptop
and a PC, or freeware that specifically allows the user to make and
distribute copies).
But now we are doubly OT, so having said that--back to unschooling.
Liz in AZ
into Fair Use rules (check www.nolo.com or www.copyright.gov if
interested) and can say that in order for a backup copy of music or
software to clearly fall under Fair Use it has to be archival--that
is, the original and the copy can *not* be in use simultaneously.
Individual items can, of course, allow for broader copy permissibility
(as in Sandra's example of something that can be loaded on a laptop
and a PC, or freeware that specifically allows the user to make and
distribute copies).
But now we are doubly OT, so having said that--back to unschooling.
Liz in AZ