Julie Anderson

I also want to say how much I liked Rue's book.... I plan to loan it out
allot.. or maybe I should just order a few more for gifts! By the way..
Rue.. my daughter loves your name.. she says it sounds like a yummy Cajun
desert! Ha.. (my dd spent a few weeks in Louisana with friends this
summer)... Julie in MO

Rue Kream

>>she says it sounds like a yummy Cajun
desert!

**That's a nice thing to sound like! My father-in-law's not so lucky - his
name is Dick Kream <G>. ~Rue


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soggyboysmom

--- In [email protected], "Rue Kream"
<skreams@c...> wrote:
> >>she says it sounds like a yummy Cajun
> desert!
>
> **That's a nice thing to sound like! My father-in-law's not so
>lucky - his
> name is Dick Kream <G>. ~Rue
>
If that's a nickname for Richard (and not just plain Dick) then maybe
he should have opted for Rich Kream early on - still can take on some
euphemisms and innuendo overtones but not as blatant perhaps (might
sound more like a dessert).

--Deb, spouse of Rick (formerly Rich) and daughter in law of Dick

Rue Kream

>>maybe
he should have opted for Rich Kream early on

**He was Richie for a long time, but people started calling him Dick and it
stuck. That's really the kind of thing parents should think about when they
name their kids <g>. ~Rue


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[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: Rue Kream <skreams@...>
>>That's really the kind of thing parents should think about when they
name their kids <g>. ~Rue


-=-=-=-
I'm a bit of a freak about that. Initials can't spell anything.
Name can't rhyme (poor Duncan). No "other" connotations. I thought I'd
done a *really* good job with Cameron. Then he went to camp; he was called
CaMORON. I was peeved. What you don't think of!!!

~Kelly
Kelly LovejoyConference CoordinatorLive and Learn Unschooling ConferenceOctober 6-9, 2005http://liveandlearnconference.org



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the.bartels

i am too. :) this reminds me of the HUGE fit my MIL threw when she
found out we were planning on naming our baby boy sebastian. she
actually made up a list of what she considered more suitable/acceptable
names while at a party with her friends and handed it to me as if it
were doing us some favor! after swallowing my initial reaction of
wanting to punch her for being so rude, i decided to ask her what she
thought was so bad about the name. she replied, *all the kids will call
him bastard!!* HUH?! all this coming from a woman who named HER boys
noel and seth. *shrug*

-lisa

p.s. my parents thought i was immune to name-calling too with such a
sweet common name, but no...i was called *lisa pizza, old lady with a
cane* whatever that means! made me cry every time just because they
said it ugly-like. :( oh...and my last name rhymed with pecker anyways!
;) seems school kids will find a way to make fun of a kid no matter
what if they're going to!

>I'm a bit of a freak about that. Initials can't spell anything.
>Name can't rhyme (poor Duncan). No "other" connotations. I thought I'd
>done a *really* good job with Cameron. Then he went to camp; he was called
>CaMORON. I was peeved. What you don't think of!!!
>
>
>

Robyn Coburn

<<<<<i am too. :) this reminds me of the HUGE fit my MIL threw when she
found out we were planning on naming our baby boy sebastian. she
actually made up a list of what she considered more suitable/acceptable
names while at a party with her friends and handed it to me as if it
were doing us some favor!>>>>>>

When my MIL heard - by phone from the hospital - that we had decided on Jayn
(JA-mes & rob-YN) her response, was "Oh I don't like THAT name". (She had
been pushing for Lily for no reason that I have been able to fathom. Not
that it is a bad name, just that it had no particular meaning for us).

James said, very calmly, "Mom, I don't want to hear your negativity".

Click.

We didn't hear from her for two years.

She's not a normal grandma.

Robyn L. Coburn

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the.bartels

woooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

sometimes, i wish i were as brave (and calm!) as he....

btw...what *is* a normal grandma? ;) to the credit of this same woman
who was so inconsiderate of our joyful choice (the MIL), she has been
wonderful and enriching in so many other ways!

-lisa

>James said, very calmly, "Mom, I don't want to hear your negativity".
>
>Click.
>
>We didn't hear from her for two years.
>
>She's not a normal grandma.
>
>Robyn L. Coburn
>
>
>

Cally Brown

Well..........

>btw...what *is* a normal grandma? ;)
>
Would you really want a normal grandma for your kids? I envy my son and
dil when I think of all the crap I had to put up with from my parents
and inlaws over all kinds of things. I'm not a normal grandma. Nor is my
grandchildren's other grandma normal. We have both homebirthed, home
educated (she didn't unschool - more 'eclectic'), use homeopathy and
other alternative therapies etc. I remember once when dil was pregnant
with her 1st baby, someone was quizzing her about her intention to have
a home birth, and then turned to me and asked, "So how do you feel about
it? Aren't you concerned for your grandchild's safety?" with a very
obvious expectation that I was going to say something negative. Her face
changed to horror when I responded that, no, I wasn't but I would be if
she had it in hospital, and that i had had two home births myself and
that dil's mother had had 3, so neither of us were likely to criticise.
You could hear her thinking that our whole family was insane, and she
moved away quickly ;-)

So, I guess what I'm saying is - a 'not-normal' grandma can be a good thing!

Cally

the.bartels

>>So, I guess what I'm saying is - a 'not-normal' grandma can be a good thing!
>>
>>
>>
right on!!! will you be *my* granny, cally? ;)

-lisa

Cally Brown

>right on!!! will you be *my* granny, cally? ;)
>
>-lisa
>
Actually, I'm still coming to terms with being a grandmother to the 2
I've got! It's hard when you still feel 18, and get a shock when passing
a mirror to see this old woman looking back! How did that HAPPEN??!!

I'm home alone (out in the country) tonight and I've just spent 2 hours,
lights out, dancing in the moonlight, in my bra on a very early spring
night, to very loud Jimi Hendrix and Rolling Stones music - now I'm worn
out, and figured it was time to get properly dressed before dh and the
teenager boys arrive home. Okay, so do we change the definition of a
normal granny, or shall I just enjoy being abnormal? I have a feeling
that 'normal grannies' don't do this stuff.

Cally



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soggyboysmom

--- In [email protected], "the.bartels"
<the.bartels@g...> wrote:
>
> btw...what *is* a normal grandma? ;)
Hmm I think my mom is a normal grandma - she flat out said that
her 'job' is to have fun with her grandkids and it's our job
(meaning me and my siblings) to parent them. They don't quite 'get'
unschooling 'yet' but they ask real questions and listen to the
answers - and even read some articles I sent them from
unschooling.info's 'library'. Mostly they just think their grandkids
are the best thing since sliced bread and whatever it is we're doing
(me and sibs- total 5 kids between us) is okay. I think partly it's
because my mom has already had a stroke (I was 5 at the time), a
couple of heart surgeries, has an artifical heart valve and a pace
maker and is on a bunch of meds - she knows that she's on 'borrowed'
time and just wants to have fun with the grandkids as long as
possible. She doesn't need the negativity and stress of being at
odds with her kids and grandkids.

--Deb

Kelly Muzyczka

>I'm home alone (out in the country) tonight and I've just spent 2 hours,
>lights out, dancing in the moonlight, in my bra on a very early spring
>night, to very loud Jimi Hendrix and Rolling Stones music - now I'm worn
>out, and figured it was time to get properly dressed before dh and the
>teenager boys arrive home. Okay, so do we change the definition of a
>normal granny, or shall I just enjoy being abnormal? I have a feeling
>that 'normal grannies' don't do this stuff.
>
>Cally


Now that's MY kinda crone!!!

Oddly, although I'm fairly sure that my mom, step mom, and both
grandmothers AREN'T doing this----I can still see them doing it at some
point. Even the Ukrainian immigrant one. We are a funky momma kinda clan.

I'd do it. And I hope to keep doing it as my kids grow, and well past the
point that they give me grandkids.

Crone on, Cally. Normal ain't got nothin' to do with it.....


Kel

"After all," he said, "$5000 could buy a lot of hair dye and crossbow bolts."

elainegh8

My partner is called Conrad. He never had nick names or got called
names until he was in his twenties. It was then some bright spark
decided to call him gonad. Happily that name only stuck around for a
couple of years.

BWs Elaine

> I'm a bit of a freak about that. Initials can't spell anything.
> Name can't rhyme (poor Duncan). No "other" connotations. I thought
I'd
> done a *really* good job with Cameron. Then he went to camp; he was
called
> CaMORON. I was peeved. What you don't think of!!!
>
> ~Kelly
> Kelly LovejoyConference CoordinatorLive and Learn Unschooling
ConferenceOctober 6-9, 2005http://liveandlearnconference.org

Cally Brown

> Hmm I think my mom is a normal grandma - she flat out said that
> her 'job' is to have fun with her grandkids and it's our job
> (meaning me and my siblings) to parent them. They don't quite 'get'
> unschooling 'yet' but they ask real questions and listen to the
> answers - and even read some articles I sent them from
> unschooling.info's 'library'.


Wow! Wish my parents had been like that!

> Mostly they just think their grandkids
> are the best thing since sliced bread and whatever it is we're doing
> (me and sibs- total 5 kids between us) is okay.

My mother thought the former, but was sure I was destroying the kids
with my silly ideas.

> I think partly it's
> because my mom has already had a stroke (I was 5 at the time), a
> couple of heart surgeries, has an artifical heart valve and a pace
> maker and is on a bunch of meds - she knows that she's on 'borrowed'
> time and just wants to have fun with the grandkids as long as
> possible. She doesn't need the negativity and stress of being at
> odds with her kids and grandkids.

Having a stroke just made my mother worse - she knew she only had a
limited time to get me to change my ways :-(

Cally

soggyboysmom

--- In [email protected], Cally Brown
<mjcmbrwn@i...> wrote:
>
> Having a stroke just made my mother worse - she knew she only had a
> limited time to get me to change my ways :-(
>
> Cally
That's really sad for all of you. One difference, perhaps, is that it
is something my sibs and I grew up with - my mom's stroke hit when she
was 28 - I was just over 5, my brother was around 3 and my sister was
about 3 months old. The fact she survived with minimal long term
damage to anything is amazing (my dad recognized the symptoms and hied
right to the hospital ASAP). That she lived long enough to see her
kids grow up, much less her grandkids, is a source of gratitude and
delight because there were times throughout our childhood and young
adulthood when she could have rolled over in bed and collapsed and
died.

--Deb