More on Kohn
Robyn Coburn
Well I think I have discovered one reason why Alfie Kohn is invested in
school education:
<<<<< Each time I visit such a classroom, where the teacher is more
interested in creating a democratic community than in maintaining her
position of authority, I'm convinced all over again that moving away from
consequences and rewards isn't just realistic -- it's the best way to help
kids grow into good learners and good people. >>>>>
The above paragraph is the conclusion his article �Discipline is the Problem
not the Solution� at his website.
HYPERLINK
"http://www.alfiekohn.org/teaching/ditpnts.htm"http://www.alfiekohn.org/teac
hing/ditpnts.htm
Evidently he believes that children need help to grow into �good learners�.
This is part of the old paradigm of adults taking credit for creating and
developing what Unschoolers consider the natural faculty and capacity
inherent in human beings � the driven ability to learn constantly. If this
is one of his core beliefs, Unschooling would look rather unappealing to
him, neglectful of this important educational task.
Robyn L. Coburn
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school education:
<<<<< Each time I visit such a classroom, where the teacher is more
interested in creating a democratic community than in maintaining her
position of authority, I'm convinced all over again that moving away from
consequences and rewards isn't just realistic -- it's the best way to help
kids grow into good learners and good people. >>>>>
The above paragraph is the conclusion his article �Discipline is the Problem
not the Solution� at his website.
HYPERLINK
"http://www.alfiekohn.org/teaching/ditpnts.htm"http://www.alfiekohn.org/teac
hing/ditpnts.htm
Evidently he believes that children need help to grow into �good learners�.
This is part of the old paradigm of adults taking credit for creating and
developing what Unschoolers consider the natural faculty and capacity
inherent in human beings � the driven ability to learn constantly. If this
is one of his core beliefs, Unschooling would look rather unappealing to
him, neglectful of this important educational task.
Robyn L. Coburn
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In a message dated 8/5/05 2:01:19 PM, dezigna@... writes:
direction.
He's starting with the assumption that there is school and school is good,
isn't he? But school can be better? It would be better if schools could
encourage learning rather than extinguish all desire.
If someone doesn't kill you, they didn't give you life (in the creating life
from nothingness way) but if they COULD have killed you and didn't, they kinda
sorta gave your life back.
School can kill what children need to grow into good learners.
-=-If this
is one of his core beliefs, Unschooling would look rather unappealing to
him, neglectful of this important educational task.-=-
Someday maybe he'll find out that it's the total lack of any possibility of
the death of good lifetime learning!
Sandra
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> Evidently he believes that children need help to grow into “good learners”Well if schools could do that, they'd be taking a giant step in a good
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direction.
He's starting with the assumption that there is school and school is good,
isn't he? But school can be better? It would be better if schools could
encourage learning rather than extinguish all desire.
If someone doesn't kill you, they didn't give you life (in the creating life
from nothingness way) but if they COULD have killed you and didn't, they kinda
sorta gave your life back.
School can kill what children need to grow into good learners.
-=-If this
is one of his core beliefs, Unschooling would look rather unappealing to
him, neglectful of this important educational task.-=-
Someday maybe he'll find out that it's the total lack of any possibility of
the death of good lifetime learning!
Sandra
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