[UnschoolingDiscussion] Question: Nervous tics in children and asthma
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I hope nobody minds me asking these questions but it seems like the place to
ask.......
What are your thoughts on nervous tics (twitches) in children?
Do you feel or find in your experience that these ailments affect children
only in dysfunctional homes, or those in happy homes as well?
I'm especially curious about children who have been unschooled all their
life......if this occurs.
My theory is no to the latter and yes to the former (hope I got that right!)
but I can't be sure because I haven't ever found anyone in a "happy" family
who has them. That also adds to my suspicion.
I grew up in a very stifling, chaotic (ie: yelling/hitting/turmoil),
manipulative home. I see some of my cousins with tics and my family says it's
genetic.........but the BEHAVIOR is what's handed down from one generation to the next
so it's hard to be sure.
I ask this because it's been on my mind lately due to being around a troubled
young cousin (who reminds me of myself as a teen) and I look at my precious
daughter and hope she does not have to endure the torture of body wracking
twitches as I did. I pray that it's not genetic and that happiness will prevent it.
Also, asthma.........
your thoughts?
I think it's a little bit trickier to determine since there are things like
vaccines (mercury in my childhood), food allergies perhaps undetected,
pollutants in the environment to factor in but........
I've always seen asthma in suffocating households like mine (and don't know
others who have it well enough to know their background).
Any input would be great!
Thanks in advance for reading!
-Amy
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ask.......
What are your thoughts on nervous tics (twitches) in children?
Do you feel or find in your experience that these ailments affect children
only in dysfunctional homes, or those in happy homes as well?
I'm especially curious about children who have been unschooled all their
life......if this occurs.
My theory is no to the latter and yes to the former (hope I got that right!)
but I can't be sure because I haven't ever found anyone in a "happy" family
who has them. That also adds to my suspicion.
I grew up in a very stifling, chaotic (ie: yelling/hitting/turmoil),
manipulative home. I see some of my cousins with tics and my family says it's
genetic.........but the BEHAVIOR is what's handed down from one generation to the next
so it's hard to be sure.
I ask this because it's been on my mind lately due to being around a troubled
young cousin (who reminds me of myself as a teen) and I look at my precious
daughter and hope she does not have to endure the torture of body wracking
twitches as I did. I pray that it's not genetic and that happiness will prevent it.
Also, asthma.........
your thoughts?
I think it's a little bit trickier to determine since there are things like
vaccines (mercury in my childhood), food allergies perhaps undetected,
pollutants in the environment to factor in but........
I've always seen asthma in suffocating households like mine (and don't know
others who have it well enough to know their background).
Any input would be great!
Thanks in advance for reading!
-Amy
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In a message dated 6/18/2005 12:45:27 AM Central Standard Time,
lovelifenyc@... writes:
I ask this because it's been on my mind lately due to being around a
troubled
young cousin (who reminds me of myself as a teen) and I look at my precious
daughter and hope she does not have to endure the torture of body wracking
twitches as I did. I pray that it's not genetic and that happiness will
prevent it.
~~~
You probably should look for another cause besides a dysfunctional family.
Tourette Syndrome is one tic disorder that IS genetic, and can cause the type
of "body-wracking" tics you describe.
_http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com/_ (http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com/)
My son developed tics when he was 7 or 8. He was in school (and a happy
home) at the time. For totally different reasons we pulled him out of school and
he was unschooled, and his tics didn't go away. I think it's a myth that
dysfunctional homes cause tics. Not saying it can't happen--just saying that
there are more logical explanations.
Asthma--it's an disease. Nothing about the way children are treated by their
parents causes it. You mentioned environmental factors. I'd go with those.
Karen
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lovelifenyc@... writes:
I ask this because it's been on my mind lately due to being around a
troubled
young cousin (who reminds me of myself as a teen) and I look at my precious
daughter and hope she does not have to endure the torture of body wracking
twitches as I did. I pray that it's not genetic and that happiness will
prevent it.
~~~
You probably should look for another cause besides a dysfunctional family.
Tourette Syndrome is one tic disorder that IS genetic, and can cause the type
of "body-wracking" tics you describe.
_http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com/_ (http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com/)
My son developed tics when he was 7 or 8. He was in school (and a happy
home) at the time. For totally different reasons we pulled him out of school and
he was unschooled, and his tics didn't go away. I think it's a myth that
dysfunctional homes cause tics. Not saying it can't happen--just saying that
there are more logical explanations.
Asthma--it's an disease. Nothing about the way children are treated by their
parents causes it. You mentioned environmental factors. I'd go with those.
Karen
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Elizabeth Hill
**
Do you feel or find in your experience that these ailments affect children
only in dysfunctional homes, or those in happy homes as well?
I'm especially curious about children who have been unschooled all their
life......if this occurs.**
Well, my son was a shirt-chewer and before that a thumb-sucker. Do you mean something like that, or something even more nervous?
Clearly, thumb-sucking is common, and sucking is a natural soothing method for children. I've known a couple of shirt-chewers, so it doesn't seem too far out to me.
I was going to say, "sure it happens in happy homes", but then I remembered that the last year of shirt chewing here overlapped with when my husband lost his job and we moved. (But there was some chewing prior to that.) I believe that unhappy homes with tension and nagging, especially nagging about the nervous habit, can make the nervous habit stronger or longer.)
Betsy
re: asthma, there has been some unusual research that if the maternal grandmother smokes when pregnant, she can damage her daughters eggs (before she is born) and increase the risk of grandchildren having asthma.
But it is also possible to go to far in blaming disease on parenting styles. Remember autism used to be considered the mother's fault.
Do you feel or find in your experience that these ailments affect children
only in dysfunctional homes, or those in happy homes as well?
I'm especially curious about children who have been unschooled all their
life......if this occurs.**
Well, my son was a shirt-chewer and before that a thumb-sucker. Do you mean something like that, or something even more nervous?
Clearly, thumb-sucking is common, and sucking is a natural soothing method for children. I've known a couple of shirt-chewers, so it doesn't seem too far out to me.
I was going to say, "sure it happens in happy homes", but then I remembered that the last year of shirt chewing here overlapped with when my husband lost his job and we moved. (But there was some chewing prior to that.) I believe that unhappy homes with tension and nagging, especially nagging about the nervous habit, can make the nervous habit stronger or longer.)
Betsy
re: asthma, there has been some unusual research that if the maternal grandmother smokes when pregnant, she can damage her daughters eggs (before she is born) and increase the risk of grandchildren having asthma.
But it is also possible to go to far in blaming disease on parenting styles. Remember autism used to be considered the mother's fault.
Heidi Crane
Hi Amy
I don't know about asthma, but I've experienced tics, when we went through
an extremely stressful time a couple of years ago. I know what the stress
felt like. It felt like hot glue being poured over my neck and head, and the
glue containing a hundred bees that were buzzing and struggling. I developed
a tic in my neck, so that I did these little shrugs. It was pretty awful,
and it went away when I let go of having to solve every single smidgen of
the problem.
Maybe you won't need to worry about your kids, if they aren't in a bad,
stressful environment, which is what your childhood home sounds like.
Chaotic? yeah, that could bring stress. If you're not raising your kids in a
chaotic house, they might not ever be twitchy or have tics. My kids haven't
ever had twitches or tics, and we've only been unschooling for three years,
but our house is mostly relaxed and not chaotic in a bad way.
blessings Heidic
I don't know about asthma, but I've experienced tics, when we went through
an extremely stressful time a couple of years ago. I know what the stress
felt like. It felt like hot glue being poured over my neck and head, and the
glue containing a hundred bees that were buzzing and struggling. I developed
a tic in my neck, so that I did these little shrugs. It was pretty awful,
and it went away when I let go of having to solve every single smidgen of
the problem.
Maybe you won't need to worry about your kids, if they aren't in a bad,
stressful environment, which is what your childhood home sounds like.
Chaotic? yeah, that could bring stress. If you're not raising your kids in a
chaotic house, they might not ever be twitchy or have tics. My kids haven't
ever had twitches or tics, and we've only been unschooling for three years,
but our house is mostly relaxed and not chaotic in a bad way.
blessings Heidic
>
>>Subject: >I hope nobody minds me asking these questions but it seems like
>>the place to
>ask.......
>
>What are your thoughts on nervous tics (twitches) in children?
>
>Do you feel or find in your experience that these ailments affect children
>only in dysfunctional homes, or those in happy homes as well?
>I'm especially curious about children who have been unschooled all their
>life......if this occurs.
>
>My theory is no to the latter and yes to the former (hope I got that
>right!)
>but I can't be sure because I haven't ever found anyone in a "happy" family
>who has them. That also adds to my suspicion.
>
>I grew up in a very stifling, chaotic (ie: yelling/hitting/turmoil),
>manipulative home. I see some of my cousins with tics and my family says
>it's
>genetic.........but the BEHAVIOR is what's handed down from one generation
>to the next
>so it's hard to be sure.
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In a message dated 6/17/2005 11:45:07 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
lovelifenyc@... writes:
Do you feel or find in your experience that these ailments affect children
only in dysfunctional homes, or those in happy homes as well?
==========
While I don't know the whole answer I did want to make the reminder that
happiness helps LOTS of physical situations, from the flu to cancer. Unhappy,
scared people who feel unsafe and aren't so sure they WANT to live are less
likely to get well than people who are hopeful and calm and cheery. I think
that's proven nine ways from Sunday (but maybe it's an evil plot perpetrated
by floral shops).
My friend with the worst facial tics I've ever seen had them get worse over
time, and her life was a BUNDLE of stress, and she never seemed to find or
want to find stress-reducing tools. She seemed to enjoy the frustration and
martyrdom and sorrow. Things were dark in her life and hopeless and she kind
of enjoyed that scramble from the bottom, to stay just out of the crocodiles'
mouths without much desire to climb all the way up to the top of the jungle's
canopy and let the sun hit her. She was unmarried, childless, and bought
fully into all the angst and emotion of her relatives. Not healthy. Tic
got worse and worse. (Anecdotal only, but with enough dozens or hundreds of
anecdotes, you get "data."
-=-Also, asthma.........
your thoughts?
.....
I've always seen asthma in suffocating households like mine (and don't know
others who have it well enough to know their background).-=-
Two asthma stories close enough to me that I've held the inhaler and been
watching for symptoms and emergency need. Both the least-favored child from
stress-filled suffocating households. Doesn't prove anything except I'm 51,
have been paying attention, and have no stories to refute your ideas.
Sandra
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lovelifenyc@... writes:
Do you feel or find in your experience that these ailments affect children
only in dysfunctional homes, or those in happy homes as well?
==========
While I don't know the whole answer I did want to make the reminder that
happiness helps LOTS of physical situations, from the flu to cancer. Unhappy,
scared people who feel unsafe and aren't so sure they WANT to live are less
likely to get well than people who are hopeful and calm and cheery. I think
that's proven nine ways from Sunday (but maybe it's an evil plot perpetrated
by floral shops).
My friend with the worst facial tics I've ever seen had them get worse over
time, and her life was a BUNDLE of stress, and she never seemed to find or
want to find stress-reducing tools. She seemed to enjoy the frustration and
martyrdom and sorrow. Things were dark in her life and hopeless and she kind
of enjoyed that scramble from the bottom, to stay just out of the crocodiles'
mouths without much desire to climb all the way up to the top of the jungle's
canopy and let the sun hit her. She was unmarried, childless, and bought
fully into all the angst and emotion of her relatives. Not healthy. Tic
got worse and worse. (Anecdotal only, but with enough dozens or hundreds of
anecdotes, you get "data."
-=-Also, asthma.........
your thoughts?
.....
I've always seen asthma in suffocating households like mine (and don't know
others who have it well enough to know their background).-=-
Two asthma stories close enough to me that I've held the inhaler and been
watching for symptoms and emergency need. Both the least-favored child from
stress-filled suffocating households. Doesn't prove anything except I'm 51,
have been paying attention, and have no stories to refute your ideas.
Sandra
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In a message dated 6/18/2005 5:54:47 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
tuckervill2@... writes:
I think it's a myth that
dysfunctional homes cause tics. Not saying it can't happen--just saying
that
there are more logical explanations.
If it can happen, it's not a myth.
"Dysfunctional home" CAN be a really logical explanation for a lot of
sorrow- and stressed-based behaviors. It's illogical to suggest that a bad
homelife is not going to affect children's behavior, mood, and general all-round
selves.
-=-Asthma--it's an disease. Nothing about the way children are treated by
their
parents causes it. -=-
I think it's a condition, not a disease. It's not contagious, and it
doesn't go away. Condition.
If stress can bring on an asthma attack, and the problem with asthma is the
attacks, the the way children are treated CAN bring on attacks.
Someone can have a bad heart, but if he never has a heart attack, it's
"under control." Someone can have asthma but if she can figure out how to avoid
the attacks, it's "under control."
Sandra
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tuckervill2@... writes:
I think it's a myth that
dysfunctional homes cause tics. Not saying it can't happen--just saying
that
there are more logical explanations.
If it can happen, it's not a myth.
"Dysfunctional home" CAN be a really logical explanation for a lot of
sorrow- and stressed-based behaviors. It's illogical to suggest that a bad
homelife is not going to affect children's behavior, mood, and general all-round
selves.
-=-Asthma--it's an disease. Nothing about the way children are treated by
their
parents causes it. -=-
I think it's a condition, not a disease. It's not contagious, and it
doesn't go away. Condition.
If stress can bring on an asthma attack, and the problem with asthma is the
attacks, the the way children are treated CAN bring on attacks.
Someone can have a bad heart, but if he never has a heart attack, it's
"under control." Someone can have asthma but if she can figure out how to avoid
the attacks, it's "under control."
Sandra
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In a message dated 6/18/2005 8:20:32 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
ecsamhill@... writes:
Well, my son was a shirt-chewer and before that a thumb-sucker. Do you mean
something like that, or something even more nervous?
Muscle tics, I think she meant. Facial twitches.
Marty and Holly both sucked the center front of t-shirts. I think Holly did
it because Marty did and she's always thought he was super-cool. <g> I just
let them do it, because t-shirts are cheap. They stopped when they were
five or so, I think.
Sandra
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ecsamhill@... writes:
Well, my son was a shirt-chewer and before that a thumb-sucker. Do you mean
something like that, or something even more nervous?
Muscle tics, I think she meant. Facial twitches.
Marty and Holly both sucked the center front of t-shirts. I think Holly did
it because Marty did and she's always thought he was super-cool. <g> I just
let them do it, because t-shirts are cheap. They stopped when they were
five or so, I think.
Sandra
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In a message dated 6/18/2005 10:05:21 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
While I don't know the whole answer I did want to make the reminder that
happiness helps LOTS of physical situations, from the flu to cancer.
Unhappy,
scared people who feel unsafe and aren't so sure they WANT to live are less
likely to get well than people who are hopeful and calm and cheery. I
think
that's proven nine ways from Sunday (but maybe it's an evil plot
perpetrated
by floral shops).
Wanted to add that kids can't learn when they're feeling unsafe either.
Abraham Maslow, Hierarchy of Needs
_http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=maslow+hierarchy+of+ne
eds&spell=1_
(http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=maslow+hierarchy+of+needs&spell=1)
Sandra
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SandraDodd@... writes:
While I don't know the whole answer I did want to make the reminder that
happiness helps LOTS of physical situations, from the flu to cancer.
Unhappy,
scared people who feel unsafe and aren't so sure they WANT to live are less
likely to get well than people who are hopeful and calm and cheery. I
think
that's proven nine ways from Sunday (but maybe it's an evil plot
perpetrated
by floral shops).
Wanted to add that kids can't learn when they're feeling unsafe either.
Abraham Maslow, Hierarchy of Needs
_http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=maslow+hierarchy+of+ne
eds&spell=1_
(http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=maslow+hierarchy+of+needs&spell=1)
Sandra
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In a message dated 6/18/2005 11:24:55 AM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
"Dysfunctional home" CAN be a really logical explanation for a lot of
sorrow- and stressed-based behaviors. It's illogical to suggest that a bad
homelife is not going to affect children's behavior, mood, and general
all-round
selves.
~~~
What she described sounded more to me like the kind of tics one gets with a
neurological tic disorder. She used the term "body-wracking" and
"genetic"--both of which can apply to Tourette Syndrome and other tic disorders. It's
illogical that homelife doesn't have an effect--but I'd rule out known
disorders, too. It's not like the homelife is going to change just on her say-so
anyway. If it's a known disorder, and her house is happy and peaceful, it's
wise to know if it's TS or something like it--because dysfunctional home is
already ruled out.
~~~
If stress can bring on an asthma attack, and the problem with asthma is the
attacks, the the way children are treated CAN bring on attacks.
~~~
But it's not the only thing that brings on attacks--so don't automatically
assume, in your peaceful and happy home, that your children will get asthma in
the absence of the condition.
A person with a bad heart has heart "disease", even without a heart attack.
Karen
www.badchair.net
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SandraDodd@... writes:
"Dysfunctional home" CAN be a really logical explanation for a lot of
sorrow- and stressed-based behaviors. It's illogical to suggest that a bad
homelife is not going to affect children's behavior, mood, and general
all-round
selves.
~~~
What she described sounded more to me like the kind of tics one gets with a
neurological tic disorder. She used the term "body-wracking" and
"genetic"--both of which can apply to Tourette Syndrome and other tic disorders. It's
illogical that homelife doesn't have an effect--but I'd rule out known
disorders, too. It's not like the homelife is going to change just on her say-so
anyway. If it's a known disorder, and her house is happy and peaceful, it's
wise to know if it's TS or something like it--because dysfunctional home is
already ruled out.
~~~
If stress can bring on an asthma attack, and the problem with asthma is the
attacks, the the way children are treated CAN bring on attacks.
~~~
But it's not the only thing that brings on attacks--so don't automatically
assume, in your peaceful and happy home, that your children will get asthma in
the absence of the condition.
A person with a bad heart has heart "disease", even without a heart attack.
Karen
www.badchair.net
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In a message dated 6/18/2005 11:48:48 PM Central Standard Time,
tuckervill2@... writes:
But it's not the only thing that brings on attacks--so don't automatically
assume, in your peaceful and happy home, that your children will get asthma
in
the absence of the condition.
~~~
That wasn't clear. And now that it was 10 minutes ago, I don't know exactly
what I meant.
Rollercoaster brain tonight.
Karen
www.badchair.net
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tuckervill2@... writes:
But it's not the only thing that brings on attacks--so don't automatically
assume, in your peaceful and happy home, that your children will get asthma
in
the absence of the condition.
~~~
That wasn't clear. And now that it was 10 minutes ago, I don't know exactly
what I meant.
Rollercoaster brain tonight.
Karen
www.badchair.net
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In a message dated 6/18/2005 10:48:47 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
tuckervill2@... writes:
so don't automatically
assume, in your peaceful and happy home, that your children will get asthma
in
the absence of the condition.
??
First one has to have the condition.
Without "being asthmatic," there's not going to be an asthma attack.
-=-A person with a bad heart has heart "disease", even without a heart
attack.-=-
Yes.
And given that, it's better for him (and it's usually a him) to live as
happily and as calmly as possible.
"Happily and calmly" solves a LOT of problems.
Sandra
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tuckervill2@... writes:
so don't automatically
assume, in your peaceful and happy home, that your children will get asthma
in
the absence of the condition.
??
First one has to have the condition.
Without "being asthmatic," there's not going to be an asthma attack.
-=-A person with a bad heart has heart "disease", even without a heart
attack.-=-
Yes.
And given that, it's better for him (and it's usually a him) to live as
happily and as calmly as possible.
"Happily and calmly" solves a LOT of problems.
Sandra
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Robyn Coburn
<<<<<"Happily and calmly" solves a LOT of problems.>>>>
And even if it doesn't solve them, it makes living with them while the
solution is sought much more pleasant.
Perhaps the original poster could come back and describe the actual tics she
is referring to more fully. It seems like a lot of theorizing in the absence
of data going on - unless I missed a post or two - perfectly possible.
Robyn L. Coburn
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And even if it doesn't solve them, it makes living with them while the
solution is sought much more pleasant.
Perhaps the original poster could come back and describe the actual tics she
is referring to more fully. It seems like a lot of theorizing in the absence
of data going on - unless I missed a post or two - perfectly possible.
Robyn L. Coburn
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Sorry for the confusion.....
I meant facial/body tics (like blinking, grimacing, shrugging, body jerks
etc.) and vocal tics (not cursing).
I was never diagnosed with Tourette's and I had been to lots of doctors.
It has resolved itself pretty much but sometimes when I'm under stress it
returns slightly in a much more subdued manner (neck cracking and such).
It's been really interesting reading all of your feedback!
I appreciate the responses and look forward to reading any more.
-Amy
In a message dated 6/20/2005 10:54:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dezigna@... writes:
<<<<<"Happily and calmly" solves a LOT of problems.>>>>
And even if it doesn't solve them, it makes living with them while the
solution is sought much more pleasant.
Perhaps the original poster could come back and describe the actual tics she
is referring to more fully. It seems like a lot of theorizing in the absence
of data going on - unless I missed a post or two - perfectly possible.
Robyn L. Coburn
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I meant facial/body tics (like blinking, grimacing, shrugging, body jerks
etc.) and vocal tics (not cursing).
I was never diagnosed with Tourette's and I had been to lots of doctors.
It has resolved itself pretty much but sometimes when I'm under stress it
returns slightly in a much more subdued manner (neck cracking and such).
It's been really interesting reading all of your feedback!
I appreciate the responses and look forward to reading any more.
-Amy
In a message dated 6/20/2005 10:54:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dezigna@... writes:
<<<<<"Happily and calmly" solves a LOT of problems.>>>>
And even if it doesn't solve them, it makes living with them while the
solution is sought much more pleasant.
Perhaps the original poster could come back and describe the actual tics she
is referring to more fully. It seems like a lot of theorizing in the absence
of data going on - unless I missed a post or two - perfectly possible.
Robyn L. Coburn
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Renee Seawell
Hi Amy: My name is Renee and I am 42. I have had a head tremor since I was 27. It gets worse
when I'm under any kind of stress. I've been to numerous Dr.'s and they have only been able to
diagnose me with Dystonia (which means tremor). At about the age of 4 we noticed our youngest son
was starting to have a sort of tick. It was most prominent when he was playing video games. I
took him to a pediatric neurologist and he assured me he would grow out of it. Well I was sure he
had what I have. It got better and then when he was around 12-13 we noticed it again. He's now
15 and it seems to have gone away.
I never understood because they told me that my tremor is inherited but they assured me his is
not. Right now he is without it and I pray if it's God's will he never has it again.
Blessings to you,
Renee
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when I'm under any kind of stress. I've been to numerous Dr.'s and they have only been able to
diagnose me with Dystonia (which means tremor). At about the age of 4 we noticed our youngest son
was starting to have a sort of tick. It was most prominent when he was playing video games. I
took him to a pediatric neurologist and he assured me he would grow out of it. Well I was sure he
had what I have. It got better and then when he was around 12-13 we noticed it again. He's now
15 and it seems to have gone away.
I never understood because they told me that my tremor is inherited but they assured me his is
not. Right now he is without it and I pray if it's God's will he never has it again.
Blessings to you,
Renee
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In a message dated 6/21/2005 4:09:52 AM Central Standard Time,
lovelifenyc@... writes:
I meant facial/body tics (like blinking, grimacing, shrugging, body jerks
etc.) and vocal tics (not cursing).
I was never diagnosed with Tourette's and I had been to lots of doctors.
~~~
Sounds just like Tourette Syndrome to me. Blinking is usually the first tic
that develops. One has to have developed two motor tics and one vocal tic
(not at the same time) to be considered TS. Lots of doctors don't know the
criteria, and they assume that a cursing tic is one of the markers. Very few
people with TS have a vocal tic that requires cursing--it's just a stereotype
fostered by the media. The book "Icy Sparks" is about a girl with TS, and
the way it is described in the book is totally outside my experience and
reading about folks with the disorder, although it can appear that way to people
who don't understand it. The author clearly didn't understand it.
It's not a bad, horrible thing to have TS. It's just nice to know it has a
name when looking for ways to adapt. And it's highly genetic, so if it runs
in your family, it runs in your family--whether or not there are bad family
dynamics. It can get worse around puberty and then taper off during
adulthood. It's a lifelong condition, though. My 20 yo son with TS says he has very
few bothersome tics now (I haven't seen him in some time, but last time I did
he was scrunching his nose a lot).
The thing that concerns me the most about my son having TS is the possible
comorbid development of obsessive-compulsive disorder, which happens to a
number of people with TS. Having severe OCD is not a happy way to live.
Karen
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lovelifenyc@... writes:
I meant facial/body tics (like blinking, grimacing, shrugging, body jerks
etc.) and vocal tics (not cursing).
I was never diagnosed with Tourette's and I had been to lots of doctors.
~~~
Sounds just like Tourette Syndrome to me. Blinking is usually the first tic
that develops. One has to have developed two motor tics and one vocal tic
(not at the same time) to be considered TS. Lots of doctors don't know the
criteria, and they assume that a cursing tic is one of the markers. Very few
people with TS have a vocal tic that requires cursing--it's just a stereotype
fostered by the media. The book "Icy Sparks" is about a girl with TS, and
the way it is described in the book is totally outside my experience and
reading about folks with the disorder, although it can appear that way to people
who don't understand it. The author clearly didn't understand it.
It's not a bad, horrible thing to have TS. It's just nice to know it has a
name when looking for ways to adapt. And it's highly genetic, so if it runs
in your family, it runs in your family--whether or not there are bad family
dynamics. It can get worse around puberty and then taper off during
adulthood. It's a lifelong condition, though. My 20 yo son with TS says he has very
few bothersome tics now (I haven't seen him in some time, but last time I did
he was scrunching his nose a lot).
The thing that concerns me the most about my son having TS is the possible
comorbid development of obsessive-compulsive disorder, which happens to a
number of people with TS. Having severe OCD is not a happy way to live.
Karen
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In a message dated 6/20/2005 11:54:29 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
dezigna@... writes:
It seems like a lot of theorizing in the absence
of data going on - unless I missed a post or two - perfectly possible.
It was a theoretical question in the first place, so that's fine.
It's all we can really do on a list like this is share data and
possibilities and ideas.
Sandra
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dezigna@... writes:
It seems like a lot of theorizing in the absence
of data going on - unless I missed a post or two - perfectly possible.
It was a theoretical question in the first place, so that's fine.
It's all we can really do on a list like this is share data and
possibilities and ideas.
Sandra
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In a message dated 6/21/2005 9:31:20 AM Central Standard Time,
tuckervill2@... writes:
One has to have developed two motor tics and one vocal tic
(not at the same time) to be considered TS
~~~
I meant, (not NECESSARILY at the same time)
Karen
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tuckervill2@... writes:
One has to have developed two motor tics and one vocal tic
(not at the same time) to be considered TS
~~~
I meant, (not NECESSARILY at the same time)
Karen
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Rue Kream
>>Having severe OCD is not a happy way to live.**I can happily report that even severe OCD doesn't an unhappy life make
:o). This is another area in which the way we live has been a huge benefit
for Rowan. ~Rue
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