Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] re: getting things done
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In a message dated 7/4/2000 11:18:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
stella@... writes:
<< We seem to have so much 'stuff'
I don't have enough space or storage for it all. The result is
piles of 'stuff' which make the place look more untidy and also
make it harder to clean or vacuum without a great big upheaval. >>
Stella:
This is definately a problem I'm having... Resolved some of it buying
containers and putting toys in that are definately not being used, put them
in the garage and rotate those containers for Zak every other week... It
seems to have helped, although the garage is overflowing now. One of my
friends who also homeschools got rid of a lot of her daughter's toys as she
didn't seem to play with certain things and noticed that she didn't miss
them. I'm sort of reluctant to do that because of having the 9 month old and
who knows what he'll want to play with. Right now he's more interested in
cruising around the couches and picking up Zak's trains (must to Zak's
annoyance).
Guess I'll just learn to live with it until they are much older.
Dawn F
stella@... writes:
<< We seem to have so much 'stuff'
I don't have enough space or storage for it all. The result is
piles of 'stuff' which make the place look more untidy and also
make it harder to clean or vacuum without a great big upheaval. >>
Stella:
This is definately a problem I'm having... Resolved some of it buying
containers and putting toys in that are definately not being used, put them
in the garage and rotate those containers for Zak every other week... It
seems to have helped, although the garage is overflowing now. One of my
friends who also homeschools got rid of a lot of her daughter's toys as she
didn't seem to play with certain things and noticed that she didn't miss
them. I'm sort of reluctant to do that because of having the 9 month old and
who knows what he'll want to play with. Right now he's more interested in
cruising around the couches and picking up Zak's trains (must to Zak's
annoyance).
Guess I'll just learn to live with it until they are much older.
Dawn F
Tracy Oldfield
yeah, but then when they move house, they fill yours with the
stuff they don't have room for (or haven't made room for yet <big
grin>)
Is it me, or has this list suddenly become 'anglicised???' LOL
Tracy
stuff they don't have room for (or haven't made room for yet <big
grin>)
Is it me, or has this list suddenly become 'anglicised???' LOL
Tracy
On 4 Jul 2000, at 14:38, NumoAstro@... wrote:
Guess I'll just learn to live with it until they are
much older.
Dawn F
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Dear Stella,
My hubby and I just moved in April. Two weeks before the move, I explained
to my 3yr old about children that do not have things, like clothes, toys,
dishes ect. Then I told her we were cleaning house and giving away
everything we have not used in 6months, have duplicates of, or are just tired
of looking at. We gave away 16boxes of things and a coffee table. You know
what!? I have no clue what is in those boxes, but they were full. IT FELT
SOOOO GOOD to get rid of all that stuff! I started one room at a time and
once the box was closed. That was it, we did not look back in them. I did
this at nap time, play time....the kids loved playing in the boxes....
Hope this helps,
JUlie
My hubby and I just moved in April. Two weeks before the move, I explained
to my 3yr old about children that do not have things, like clothes, toys,
dishes ect. Then I told her we were cleaning house and giving away
everything we have not used in 6months, have duplicates of, or are just tired
of looking at. We gave away 16boxes of things and a coffee table. You know
what!? I have no clue what is in those boxes, but they were full. IT FELT
SOOOO GOOD to get rid of all that stuff! I started one room at a time and
once the box was closed. That was it, we did not look back in them. I did
this at nap time, play time....the kids loved playing in the boxes....
Hope this helps,
JUlie
Tracy Oldfield
What a GREAT idea. Like Dawn, I'm a little loath to ditch stuff,
cos I do want more family, but I know it's got to be done
sometime. But not today.
Tracy
cos I do want more family, but I know it's got to be done
sometime. But not today.
Tracy
On 4 Jul 2000, at 19:24, Jaam1224@... wrote:
Dear Stella,
My hubby and I just moved in April. Two weeks before
the move, I explained
to my 3yr old about children that do not have things,
like clothes, toys,
dishes ect. Then I told her we were cleaning house
and giving away
everything we have not used in 6months, have duplicates
of, or are just tired
of looking at. We gave away 16boxes of things and a
coffee table. You know
what!? I have no clue what is in those boxes, but they
were full. IT FELT
SOOOO GOOD to get rid of all that stuff! I started one
room at a time and
once the box was closed. That was it, we did not look
back in them. I did
this at nap time, play time....the kids loved playing
in the boxes....
Hope this helps,
JUlie
D Klement
Tracy Oldfield wrote:
My Grandfather was an immigrant Welshman and my Grandmother immigrated
from Sunderland and they found each other over here in Canada ... so I'm
* well anglicised * .
Full English breakfast over here please!
Buzz
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The Klement Family "Education is what survives when
Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
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>Hmmm a definate Anglo presence .....
> yeah, but then when they move house, they fill yours with the
> stuff they don't have room for (or haven't made room for yet <big
> grin>)
>
> Is it me, or has this list suddenly become 'anglicised???' LOL
>
> Tracy
My Grandfather was an immigrant Welshman and my Grandmother immigrated
from Sunderland and they found each other over here in Canada ... so I'm
* well anglicised * .
Full English breakfast over here please!
Buzz
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Klement Family "Education is what survives when
Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tracy Oldfield
Just omelette for me <g> My BIL in Virginia says that
the bacon over there is too different to over here,
and he can't eat it. Is it that different? And I bet you
can't get black pudding either... (yes I know what
people think of sausages, but then perhaps they've
not had them with fried bread...) Before anyone asks
about the relevance to an unschooling list, think of it
as exploring cultural differences, :-)
Tracy
the bacon over there is too different to over here,
and he can't eat it. Is it that different? And I bet you
can't get black pudding either... (yes I know what
people think of sausages, but then perhaps they've
not had them with fried bread...) Before anyone asks
about the relevance to an unschooling list, think of it
as exploring cultural differences, :-)
Tracy
On 4 Jul 2000, at 19:37, D Klement wrote:
Full English breakfast over here please!
Buzz
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In a message dated 7/4/2000 4:35:23 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
klement@... writes:
<< Is it me, or has this list suddenly become 'anglicised???' >>
How funny that on this day the Brits are taking over (LOL).... Please,
Americans, don't take offense and let's not start another thread on that.....
I actually have dual citizenship.. Not suppose too... but the British don't
recognize me as being a naturalized American... As I was born in England, I
have both passports and this comes in handy when going back and forth across
the pond. Don't have to wait in long lines at immigration on either side (g)
Dawn F
klement@... writes:
<< Is it me, or has this list suddenly become 'anglicised???' >>
How funny that on this day the Brits are taking over (LOL).... Please,
Americans, don't take offense and let's not start another thread on that.....
I actually have dual citizenship.. Not suppose too... but the British don't
recognize me as being a naturalized American... As I was born in England, I
have both passports and this comes in handy when going back and forth across
the pond. Don't have to wait in long lines at immigration on either side (g)
Dawn F
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In a message dated 7/4/2000 4:47:57 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
tracy.oldfield@... writes:
<< Before anyone asks
about the relevance to an unschooling list, think of it
as exploring cultural differences, : >>
Good point Tracy... You can't get good Pork Pies over here either and the
bacon is just lumps of fat (LOL)... Oh for a good fry up!!!!
Dawn F
tracy.oldfield@... writes:
<< Before anyone asks
about the relevance to an unschooling list, think of it
as exploring cultural differences, : >>
Good point Tracy... You can't get good Pork Pies over here either and the
bacon is just lumps of fat (LOL)... Oh for a good fry up!!!!
Dawn F
Stella
Julie said;
. IT FELT
..........................................
Hi Julie,
Your ideas sound good.
I would feel happy getting rid of the kids stuff if they were
happy to get rid of it.
My problem is that when I suggest getting rid of things to my
children, they agree and when we start looking thorugh the things
they want to keep it all.
I don't feel happy about going through it while they are asleep
and deciding to get rid of it.
I would hate it if someone went through my things and chucked
some of it without me knowing.
i think my only way forward is to tidy up what we already have
and for me to clear up MY piles of paperwork and books and lead
by example I think.
I do feel a lot more positive since I have read the mails from
you great people on this list.
thanks
Stella
. IT FELT
> SOOOO GOOD to get rid of all that stuff! I started one room ata time and
> once the box was closed. That was it, we did not look back inthem. I did
> this at nap time, play time....the kids loved playing in theboxes....
..........................................
Hi Julie,
Your ideas sound good.
I would feel happy getting rid of the kids stuff if they were
happy to get rid of it.
My problem is that when I suggest getting rid of things to my
children, they agree and when we start looking thorugh the things
they want to keep it all.
I don't feel happy about going through it while they are asleep
and deciding to get rid of it.
I would hate it if someone went through my things and chucked
some of it without me knowing.
i think my only way forward is to tidy up what we already have
and for me to clear up MY piles of paperwork and books and lead
by example I think.
I do feel a lot more positive since I have read the mails from
you great people on this list.
thanks
Stella
D Klement
Tracy Oldfield wrote:
sweeter than English bacon. In Canada quite often it is maple flavoured
or more expensive but better is maple smoked with real maple wood.
I have a 15 min walk to a real Scottish butcher ( family name of Opie )
who have real oatmeal (not rolled oats), proper suet for Xmas puddings
and mincemeat , pork pies, and black budding and Cadbury chocolate from
Britain ( our Canadian made Cadbury chocolate tastes terrible).
I can also buy golden syrup and Vegemite locally too.
We have access to good tea (Twinnings).
We used to have Marks and Spencers but they had to shut down last year
:-( .... no decent place to buy biscuits now except one more expensive
store ... can't find Bourbon biscuits or good ginger snaps easily now.
High British immigrant population here in Hamilton,Ontario.
Actually pretty decent British immigrant population in Southern Ontario
and most major cities in Canada.
Buzz
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Klement Family "Education is what survives when
Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>The side (streaky) bacon over here ( N.A.) is generally smoked and
> Just omelette for me <g> My BIL in Virginia says that
> the bacon over there is too different to over here,
> and he can't eat it. Is it that different? And I bet you
> can't get black pudding either... (yes I know what
> people think of sausages, but then perhaps they've
> not had them with fried bread...) Before anyone asks
> about the relevance to an unschooling list, think of it
> as exploring cultural differences, :-)
>
> Tracy
sweeter than English bacon. In Canada quite often it is maple flavoured
or more expensive but better is maple smoked with real maple wood.
I have a 15 min walk to a real Scottish butcher ( family name of Opie )
who have real oatmeal (not rolled oats), proper suet for Xmas puddings
and mincemeat , pork pies, and black budding and Cadbury chocolate from
Britain ( our Canadian made Cadbury chocolate tastes terrible).
I can also buy golden syrup and Vegemite locally too.
We have access to good tea (Twinnings).
We used to have Marks and Spencers but they had to shut down last year
:-( .... no decent place to buy biscuits now except one more expensive
store ... can't find Bourbon biscuits or good ginger snaps easily now.
High British immigrant population here in Hamilton,Ontario.
Actually pretty decent British immigrant population in Southern Ontario
and most major cities in Canada.
Buzz
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Klement Family "Education is what survives when
Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
D Klement
NumoAstro@... wrote:
and bring you back some nice * proper * bacon.
Would you like it thick or thin sliced, love!
Buzz
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Klement Family "Education is what survives when
Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Awe Dawn , if only you lived near me. I'd walk down to Opie's butchers
> In a message dated 7/4/2000 4:47:57 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> tracy.oldfield@... writes:
>
> << Before anyone asks
> about the relevance to an unschooling list, think of it
> as exploring cultural differences, : >>
>
> Good point Tracy... You can't get good Pork Pies over here either and the
> bacon is just lumps of fat (LOL)... Oh for a good fry up!!!!
>
> Dawn F
and bring you back some nice * proper * bacon.
Would you like it thick or thin sliced, love!
Buzz
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Klement Family "Education is what survives when
Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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In a message dated 7/5/2000 6:34:55 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
klement@... writes:
<< Awe Dawn , if only you lived near me. I'd walk down to Opie's butchers
and bring you back some nice * proper * bacon.
Would you like it thick or thin sliced, love! >>
Buzz:
I'm very envious and may have to take a trip to Canada just for the bacon and
pork pies. My brother became a Canadian citizen and lived in Nova Scotia fo
the past 16 years. When they get married they are talking about going back
to NS to get married... I think now I'll encourage that so I can get some
British products (LOL)...
Dawn F
klement@... writes:
<< Awe Dawn , if only you lived near me. I'd walk down to Opie's butchers
and bring you back some nice * proper * bacon.
Would you like it thick or thin sliced, love! >>
Buzz:
I'm very envious and may have to take a trip to Canada just for the bacon and
pork pies. My brother became a Canadian citizen and lived in Nova Scotia fo
the past 16 years. When they get married they are talking about going back
to NS to get married... I think now I'll encourage that so I can get some
British products (LOL)...
Dawn F
Bonnie Painter
We just went on a whirlwind cleaning tour these last two days. I would like
to live in my kitchen as that is now the cleanest room in the house,
followed closely by my basement. These are the only two rooms we have made
it through and I have six bags of garbage out front. It totally agree with
you Julie, it feels sooooo good! Next weekend, the living room...
Bonnie
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to live in my kitchen as that is now the cleanest room in the house,
followed closely by my basement. These are the only two rooms we have made
it through and I have six bags of garbage out front. It totally agree with
you Julie, it feels sooooo good! Next weekend, the living room...
Bonnie
>From: "Stella" <stella@...>________________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] re: getting things done
>Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:00:06 +0100
>
>Julie said;
>
>. IT FELT
> > SOOOO GOOD to get rid of all that stuff! I started one room at
>a time and
> > once the box was closed. That was it, we did not look back in
>them. I did
> > this at nap time, play time....the kids loved playing in the
>boxes....
>..........................................
>
>Hi Julie,
>Your ideas sound good.
>I would feel happy getting rid of the kids stuff if they were
>happy to get rid of it.
>My problem is that when I suggest getting rid of things to my
>children, they agree and when we start looking thorugh the things
>they want to keep it all.
>I don't feel happy about going through it while they are asleep
>and deciding to get rid of it.
>I would hate it if someone went through my things and chucked
>some of it without me knowing.
>i think my only way forward is to tidy up what we already have
>and for me to clear up MY piles of paperwork and books and lead
>by example I think.
>I do feel a lot more positive since I have read the mails from
>you great people on this list.
>thanks
>Stella
>
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Stella,
I understand your reservation about boxing up your childrens things about
while they are sleeping. However, I did it with the thought in mind that if
my dd asked for anything specific out of the boxes I would get it back out.
In two weeks, she asked for nothing so off they went to the needy. Then I
told her that the toys that were left we needed to divide into two groups;
one stayed out to play and the other went in the box to come out in a couple
of weeks. BTW, she did not miss those either. There is now so much more
room for her to get down on the floor to play and less for us to clean up....
Julie
I understand your reservation about boxing up your childrens things about
while they are sleeping. However, I did it with the thought in mind that if
my dd asked for anything specific out of the boxes I would get it back out.
In two weeks, she asked for nothing so off they went to the needy. Then I
told her that the toys that were left we needed to divide into two groups;
one stayed out to play and the other went in the box to come out in a couple
of weeks. BTW, she did not miss those either. There is now so much more
room for her to get down on the floor to play and less for us to clean up....
Julie
Tracy Oldfield
You're welcome to drop in for one <g> Is it like Italian panchetta,
then? used as a flavouring, rather than actually as meat?
Tracy (who couldn't imagine life without a good pork pie...)
then? used as a flavouring, rather than actually as meat?
Tracy (who couldn't imagine life without a good pork pie...)
On 4 Jul 2000, at 22:49, NumoAstro@... wrote:
Good point Tracy... You can't get good Pork Pies over
here either and the
bacon is just lumps of fat (LOL)... Oh for a good fry
up!!!!
Dawn F
[email protected]
In a message dated 7/5/2000 1:36:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
tracy.oldfield@... writes:
<< You're welcome to drop in for one <g> Is it like Italian panchetta,
then? used as a flavouring, rather than actually as meat? >>
We are planning of being in England next summer, so I might take you up on
that Tracy... I've never been to Yorkshire... Sad really when you come to
think of it... Maybe it's because England was always there and so I didn't
travel around it very much until I married an American and became a tourist.
I've also never been to Scotland, Ireland or Wales... Yorkshire (from the
photos I've seen) looks beautiful. I've only been as far as Derbyshire,
which is where my mother's family comes from. Her bio parents come from
Manchester.
I'm not sure which part of the pig the bacon comes from here. Maybe an
American will be able to answer that. All I know is that I buy Canadian
Bacon if I was close to the "real stuff"... Steve and I really miss going to
the local butchers in the village and getting our meat fresh and also those
wonderful pork pies.
Dawn F
tracy.oldfield@... writes:
<< You're welcome to drop in for one <g> Is it like Italian panchetta,
then? used as a flavouring, rather than actually as meat? >>
We are planning of being in England next summer, so I might take you up on
that Tracy... I've never been to Yorkshire... Sad really when you come to
think of it... Maybe it's because England was always there and so I didn't
travel around it very much until I married an American and became a tourist.
I've also never been to Scotland, Ireland or Wales... Yorkshire (from the
photos I've seen) looks beautiful. I've only been as far as Derbyshire,
which is where my mother's family comes from. Her bio parents come from
Manchester.
I'm not sure which part of the pig the bacon comes from here. Maybe an
American will be able to answer that. All I know is that I buy Canadian
Bacon if I was close to the "real stuff"... Steve and I really miss going to
the local butchers in the village and getting our meat fresh and also those
wonderful pork pies.
Dawn F
Tracy Oldfield
Well, being the largest county (I'm way more patriotic for
Yorkshire than England, or anywhere <g>) there's LOTS of
variation in Yorkshire. We're on the Northern edge of the Peak
District, very hilly, lots of sheep, not too many cloth caps,
whippets or pigeons though <g> It's a bit 'wallace and gromit'-ish,
though they're Lancastrian really. Derbyshire's beautiful too <g>
Tracy
PS I've never been to Cambridge either...
Yorkshire than England, or anywhere <g>) there's LOTS of
variation in Yorkshire. We're on the Northern edge of the Peak
District, very hilly, lots of sheep, not too many cloth caps,
whippets or pigeons though <g> It's a bit 'wallace and gromit'-ish,
though they're Lancastrian really. Derbyshire's beautiful too <g>
Tracy
PS I've never been to Cambridge either...
On 5 Jul 2000, at 18:37, NumoAstro@... wrote:
We are planning of being in England next summer, so I
might take you up on
that Tracy... I've never been to Yorkshire... Sad
really when you come to
think of it... Maybe it's because England was always
there and so I didn't
travel around it very much until I married an American
and became a tourist.
I've also never been to Scotland, Ireland or Wales...
Yorkshire (from the
photos I've seen) looks beautiful. I've only been as
far as Derbyshire,
which is where my mother's family comes from. Her bio
parents come from
Manchester.
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klement@... writes:
than US Cadbury (or, worse, any native American chocolate). I can get
Twinings tea in my local supermarket.
:-) Diane (in Tucson)
> Cadbury chocolate fromBoy! I always love going to Canada because your Cadbury is SO much better
> Britain ( our Canadian made Cadbury chocolate tastes terrible).
> I can also buy golden syrup and Vegemite locally too.
> We have access to good tea (Twinnings).
than US Cadbury (or, worse, any native American chocolate). I can get
Twinings tea in my local supermarket.
:-) Diane (in Tucson)
Lynda
"Bacon" as usually found in U.S. supermarkets is the the meat on the
"outside" of belly ribs which become spareribs when the "bacon" is removed.
It is brined and then smoked. Now, to get a decent tasting U.S. type
bacon, you really need to go to an old fashioned butcher shop and get
cut-for-you slices from slab bacon. All the mass produced stuff is so full
of chemicals and garbage and then cryovaced to plastic tasting h*ll that it
is yucky!
What we get in the U.S. as "Canandian" bacon is actually boned rib or loin
chops strips that are then smoked.
Lynda, whose only regret over getting rid of hubby #1 was the lose of the
family owned butcher shop and all the goodies she got for free <g>
----------
"outside" of belly ribs which become spareribs when the "bacon" is removed.
It is brined and then smoked. Now, to get a decent tasting U.S. type
bacon, you really need to go to an old fashioned butcher shop and get
cut-for-you slices from slab bacon. All the mass produced stuff is so full
of chemicals and garbage and then cryovaced to plastic tasting h*ll that it
is yucky!
What we get in the U.S. as "Canandian" bacon is actually boned rib or loin
chops strips that are then smoked.
Lynda, whose only regret over getting rid of hubby #1 was the lose of the
family owned butcher shop and all the goodies she got for free <g>
----------
> From: NumoAstro@...on
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Bacon, was Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] re: getting things done
> Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 3:37 PM
>
> In a message dated 7/5/2000 1:36:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> tracy.oldfield@... writes:
>
> << You're welcome to drop in for one <g> Is it like Italian panchetta,
> then? used as a flavouring, rather than actually as meat? >>
>
> We are planning of being in England next summer, so I might take you up
> that Tracy... I've never been to Yorkshire... Sad really when you come todidn't
> think of it... Maybe it's because England was always there and so I
> travel around it very much until I married an American and became atourist.
> I've also never been to Scotland, Ireland or Wales... Yorkshire (fromthe
> photos I've seen) looks beautiful. I've only been as far as Derbyshire,to
> which is where my mother's family comes from. Her bio parents come from
> Manchester.
>
> I'm not sure which part of the pig the bacon comes from here. Maybe an
> American will be able to answer that. All I know is that I buy Canadian
> Bacon if I was close to the "real stuff"... Steve and I really miss going
> the local butchers in the village and getting our meat fresh and alsothose
> wonderful pork pies.
>
> Dawn F
>
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D Klement
Lynda wrote:
It is * pickled * in brine only. It should look raw when you buy it. In
Canada if you go into a grocery store it is sold as Peameal bacon as it
is coated in cornmeal before it is sliced. Why it's called pea meal I
don't know. I suspect it's because all ground corn and peas were called
meal long long ago.
I prefer German Speck when I can get the stuff from the German butcher's
in their reduced cold foods section. Only reason it's there is because
it was sliced the day before which won't hurt a well smoked bacon anyway
;-)
What you describe is what I suspect is * Canadian style * bacon.
Buzz
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>ARGHHHHHH! Canadian Back Bacon is not smoked!!!!!
> "Bacon" as usually found in U.S. supermarkets is the the meat on the
> "outside" of belly ribs which become spareribs when the "bacon" is removed.
> It is brined and then smoked. Now, to get a decent tasting U.S. type
> bacon, you really need to go to an old fashioned butcher shop and get
> cut-for-you slices from slab bacon. All the mass produced stuff is so full
> of chemicals and garbage and then cryovaced to plastic tasting h*ll that it
> is yucky!
>
> What we get in the U.S. as "Canandian" bacon is actually boned rib or loin
> chops strips that are then smoked.
>
> Lynda, whose only regret over getting rid of hubby #1 was the lose of the
> family owned butcher shop and all the goodies she got for free <g>
It is * pickled * in brine only. It should look raw when you buy it. In
Canada if you go into a grocery store it is sold as Peameal bacon as it
is coated in cornmeal before it is sliced. Why it's called pea meal I
don't know. I suspect it's because all ground corn and peas were called
meal long long ago.
I prefer German Speck when I can get the stuff from the German butcher's
in their reduced cold foods section. Only reason it's there is because
it was sliced the day before which won't hurt a well smoked bacon anyway
;-)
What you describe is what I suspect is * Canadian style * bacon.
Buzz
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Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
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D Klement
cen46624@... wrote:
Twinnings is a little pricey. I buy Twinnings when I need to spoil
myself a little ..... Irish Breakfast Tea is my favourite.
Buzz
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Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
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>Can you get PG Tips ? That is a favourite everyday tea around here.
> klement@... writes:
>
> > Cadbury chocolate from
> > Britain ( our Canadian made Cadbury chocolate tastes terrible).
> > I can also buy golden syrup and Vegemite locally too.
> > We have access to good tea (Twinnings).
>
> Boy! I always love going to Canada because your Cadbury is SO much better
> than US Cadbury (or, worse, any native American chocolate). I can get
> Twinings tea in my local supermarket.
>
> :-) Diane (in Tucson)
Twinnings is a little pricey. I buy Twinnings when I need to spoil
myself a little ..... Irish Breakfast Tea is my favourite.
Buzz
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Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
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Lynda
Anyone have a "recipe" on how to do "real" Canadian bacon??? We are going
to be going gung ho here shortly with sausage and other meats both smoked
and unsmoked. Have some great recipes (we hope) for smoking bacon and hams
and for dry curing but haven't seen any for this type.
Lynda
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to be going gung ho here shortly with sausage and other meats both smoked
and unsmoked. Have some great recipes (we hope) for smoking bacon and hams
and for dry curing but haven't seen any for this type.
Lynda
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> From: D Klement <klement@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Bacon, was Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] re: getting things done
> Date: Thursday, July 06, 2000 6:38 AM
>
> ARGHHHHHH! Canadian Back Bacon is not smoked!!!!!
> It is * pickled * in brine only. It should look raw when you buy it. In
> Canada if you go into a grocery store it is sold as Peameal bacon as it
> is coated in cornmeal before it is sliced. Why it's called pea meal I
> don't know. I suspect it's because all ground corn and peas were called
> meal long long ago.
> I prefer German Speck when I can get the stuff from the German butcher's
> in their reduced cold foods section. Only reason it's there is because
> it was sliced the day before which won't hurt a well smoked bacon anyway
> ;-)
>
> What you describe is what I suspect is * Canadian style * bacon.
>
> Buzz
>
>
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> Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
> Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
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> Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
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Tracy Oldfield
'Traditional' English bacon is dry-cured... I'm not a butcher and
don't personally know any so I wouldn't have a clue where to
start, but it sounds like if it was successful you'd have a real
seller!!!
I'll ask around...
Tracy
don't personally know any so I wouldn't have a clue where to
start, but it sounds like if it was successful you'd have a real
seller!!!
I'll ask around...
Tracy
On 6 Jul 2000, at 13:26, Lynda wrote:
Anyone have a "recipe" on how to do "real" Canadian
bacon??? We are going
to be going gung ho here shortly with sausage and other
meats both smoked
and unsmoked. Have some great recipes (we hope) for
smoking bacon and hams
and for dry curing but haven't seen any for this type.
Lynda
D Klement
Lynda wrote:
I'll mark where it becomes "Americanized" if you'll forgive the phrase.
Buzz
From: http://bbq-forum.com/recipe/pork/canadianBacon.htm
in a little oil as it is very lean. The honey and sugar part I don't
think are quite accurate from a Canadian view point. Our Canadian
peameal bacon has no sweetness to it.
The rest is for smoking it , which sounds pretty tasty too!
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Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
e-mail- klement@...
Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
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>My dh helped me find this for you.
> Anyone have a "recipe" on how to do "real" Canadian bacon??? We are going
> to be going gung ho here shortly with sausage and other meats both smoked
> and unsmoked. Have some great recipes (we hope) for smoking bacon and hams
> and for dry curing but haven't seen any for this type.
>
> Lynda
I'll mark where it becomes "Americanized" if you'll forgive the phrase.
Buzz
From: http://bbq-forum.com/recipe/pork/canadianBacon.htm
> Canadian Style BaconHere ends the Canadian part. Now it is ready to freeze or slice and fry
>
> 1 Gallon Water
> 3/4 Cup Honey
> 1/4 Cup Sugar
> 1/2 Cup Tender Quick
> 1/2 Cup Kosher Salt
> 1 Ea. Boneless Pork Loin
>
> Preparation:
>
> Add the dry ingredients to the water and bring to a boil. Allow to completely cool, then put
> mixture in the icebox, until very cold - usually over night. Take the cure and load your pump
> and inject it to about 10% of the weight of the loin. I have tried just soaking the loin with
> the cure and it wasn't as good as it is when injected. Get a good metal meat pump, I have a
> old one that holds five ounces. A cup of cure weighs about roughly a half a pound if you
> don't have a scale. If you have a five pound loin you will need to inject eight ounces (one
> cup) of mix. Place in a bag and pour remaining cure over the loin to cover, close the bag up
> and tie it. Try to remove as much air as you can from the bag. Place bag in pan and put in
> the bottom of fridge. You want to make sure that you keep the temperature between 35°
> and 40°. Do not allow to get above 40° or to freeze. You can allow to cure for as little as two
> days and as much as five.
>
> I take them out after three days. Wash them and wash them again and just for drill, do it
> again.
in a little oil as it is very lean. The honey and sugar part I don't
think are quite accurate from a Canadian view point. Our Canadian
peameal bacon has no sweetness to it.
The rest is for smoking it , which sounds pretty tasty too!
> Dry it off and place on smoker at 160° and light smoke for about 3 hours and them--
> crank the temperature up to 225°. Pull it off the smoker when the temperature is 160°
> internal, or whatever you feel is safe. Allow to cool back down and then place in the fridge.
> It is now ready to eat, so enjoy it.
>
> If you cut a loin in half or use two loins, you can pull one and cook it after two days of
> curing. This way you can know how salty it is after just two days, if you like it pull the other
> one out and smoke it. Apple and hickory is what I prefer for the smoking wood. Another
> twist to this recipe is to drop the coriander and substitute the honey with Dr Pepper syrup.
> Before you try the DP in this recipe, spray or baste some ribs when you cook them with Dr
> Pepper. That way you will have an idea what taste you'll get. We like it!
>
> Submitted by Ashley
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Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
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Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
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