Offenders List?
[email protected]
Does anyone know of an internet site that helps you search your area for
convicts?
Once, many years ago, our local paper made a huge list for our surrounding
areas and at that time we had one on our street for several things: rape, sex
with a minor under 14, abuse. I am curious if he is still listed here.
It never occured to me to look on the internet. But now that my kids are
getting older and may soon want to be getting out on their own, I am curious.
Pamela
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convicts?
Once, many years ago, our local paper made a huge list for our surrounding
areas and at that time we had one on our street for several things: rape, sex
with a minor under 14, abuse. I am curious if he is still listed here.
It never occured to me to look on the internet. But now that my kids are
getting older and may soon want to be getting out on their own, I am curious.
Pamela
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Ahna
--- In [email protected], b229d655@c... wrote:
and it lists a site for every state.
ahna
> Does anyone know of an internet site that helps you search your area forI just found this site: http://www.usatrace.com/sex.html
> convicts?
and it lists a site for every state.
ahna
Penne & Buddies
You can Google for your state's sex offender registry, but be
forewarned -- the guy who got Jessica down the road from our town
was "visiting" his sister at the mobile home park. He also worked
at the elementary school for a while, as I understand it, but the
media played that one down for some reason. I had heard that
Florida had no policy on screening its teachers or school workers
years and years ago. Looks like they still have no qualms about
who's supervising the children in the system.
The other guy had dated the teen's mom, but he could've met up with
her anywhere. The predators are out and about, whether they are on
our street or the next one over. We roamed the neighborhood when we
were kids, but most of the moms were still home in the sixties and
everyone knew everyone else. Someone's preteen knocked on my door
the other day, dressed in full camo-gun, grenade, and all, and
introduced himself as the new kid on the block (heard we were a
homeschooling family and came to find out if we were "normal.")
This was just after the Jessica mystery was solved and I wondered
how his parents could feel comfortable sending him off into
strangers homes without coming to meet us first. Ours wasn't the
first and I doubt it will be the last. I'm sure my reputation as a
mom of eight kids preceded me, but still -- they don't know us from
Adam or Eve. I wouldn't send my kids over to make a cold call, but
maybe I'm just old-fashioned.
Anyway, see if your registry doesn't turn up on Google. It's a bit
eery to look through all those names and faces and know they're
hanging out around town while our kids are running errands and
such. Hopefully, they've got enough common sense and know-how to
keep themselves safe by now (at least as is humanly possible.) I
have a few adult friends and family who have landed themselves in
some terrible spots, but I can't live in fear (or keep up with all
the transient felons riding into town) and don't want my kids to
live that way, either.
Vayan con Dios ~
Penne
forewarned -- the guy who got Jessica down the road from our town
was "visiting" his sister at the mobile home park. He also worked
at the elementary school for a while, as I understand it, but the
media played that one down for some reason. I had heard that
Florida had no policy on screening its teachers or school workers
years and years ago. Looks like they still have no qualms about
who's supervising the children in the system.
The other guy had dated the teen's mom, but he could've met up with
her anywhere. The predators are out and about, whether they are on
our street or the next one over. We roamed the neighborhood when we
were kids, but most of the moms were still home in the sixties and
everyone knew everyone else. Someone's preteen knocked on my door
the other day, dressed in full camo-gun, grenade, and all, and
introduced himself as the new kid on the block (heard we were a
homeschooling family and came to find out if we were "normal.")
This was just after the Jessica mystery was solved and I wondered
how his parents could feel comfortable sending him off into
strangers homes without coming to meet us first. Ours wasn't the
first and I doubt it will be the last. I'm sure my reputation as a
mom of eight kids preceded me, but still -- they don't know us from
Adam or Eve. I wouldn't send my kids over to make a cold call, but
maybe I'm just old-fashioned.
Anyway, see if your registry doesn't turn up on Google. It's a bit
eery to look through all those names and faces and know they're
hanging out around town while our kids are running errands and
such. Hopefully, they've got enough common sense and know-how to
keep themselves safe by now (at least as is humanly possible.) I
have a few adult friends and family who have landed themselves in
some terrible spots, but I can't live in fear (or keep up with all
the transient felons riding into town) and don't want my kids to
live that way, either.
Vayan con Dios ~
Penne
--- In [email protected], b229d655@c... wrote:
> Does anyone know of an internet site that helps you search your
area for
> convicts?
>
> Once, many years ago, our local paper made a huge list for our
surrounding
> areas and at that time we had one on our street for several
things: rape, sex
> with a minor under 14, abuse. I am curious if he is still listed
here.
>
> It never occured to me to look on the internet. But now that my
kids are
> getting older and may soon want to be getting out on their own, I
am curious.
>
> Pamela
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/20/2005 12:19:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
crrbuddy@... writes:
employees in daycares, preschools, schools but they DO NOT contain any info. on
child related incidences.
I had worked at a preschool many years ago when a complaint had come up about
a co-worker and a whole lot of stink came up about her history of neglect and
abuse and that it was not in her criminal records check.
You'd think that if one is trying to work with children in any field that
that would be the first thing available upon hiring. Strange.
Pamela
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crrbuddy@... writes:
> I had heard thatThanks for the info. Here in VA there are criminal records checks done for
> Florida had no policy on screening its teachers or school workers
> years and years ago. Looks like they still have no qualms about
> who's supervising the children in the system.
employees in daycares, preschools, schools but they DO NOT contain any info. on
child related incidences.
I had worked at a preschool many years ago when a complaint had come up about
a co-worker and a whole lot of stink came up about her history of neglect and
abuse and that it was not in her criminal records check.
You'd think that if one is trying to work with children in any field that
that would be the first thing available upon hiring. Strange.
Pamela
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/20/2005 9:40:35 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
b229d655@... writes:
Does anyone know of an internet site that helps you search your area for
convicts?
===========================
Generally the term 'convict' is only used during the term of imprisonment.
If someone is convicted to ten years in jail and serves that time, I object
on principle to his being called "a convict" forever thereafter.
Our neighborhoods might be filled with once-convicted car thieves and
burglars and mail-box-pilferers, but do we bar the doors and no longer use
mailboxes and...
I know there are problems with repeat offenses, but that's not limited to
sex offenders. I think it's pretty horrible, the way Americans in general are
treating one class of past-punishment criminals. No one before was convicted
to being a parriah for life, having to register and maybe be subjected to
personal interviews with neighbors and other unreasonable life-long punishment.
Even if every neighbor goes and asks a guy what he did, he might not be
honest, or it might have been a one-shot deal (statuatory rape is still a crime
even if the younger person lies like a sonofabitch about her or his age).
Sandra
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b229d655@... writes:
Does anyone know of an internet site that helps you search your area for
convicts?
===========================
Generally the term 'convict' is only used during the term of imprisonment.
If someone is convicted to ten years in jail and serves that time, I object
on principle to his being called "a convict" forever thereafter.
Our neighborhoods might be filled with once-convicted car thieves and
burglars and mail-box-pilferers, but do we bar the doors and no longer use
mailboxes and...
I know there are problems with repeat offenses, but that's not limited to
sex offenders. I think it's pretty horrible, the way Americans in general are
treating one class of past-punishment criminals. No one before was convicted
to being a parriah for life, having to register and maybe be subjected to
personal interviews with neighbors and other unreasonable life-long punishment.
Even if every neighbor goes and asks a guy what he did, he might not be
honest, or it might have been a one-shot deal (statuatory rape is still a crime
even if the younger person lies like a sonofabitch about her or his age).
Sandra
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/20/2005 10:16:11 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
crrbuddy@... writes:
-=-Anyway, see if your registry doesn't turn up on Google. It's a bit
eery to look through all those names and faces and know they're
hanging out around town while our kids are running errands and
such.-=-
Sometimes when I'm driving my car around town, I think of what the other
drivers might be thinking, or knowing. Some are grieving a recent or impending
death, and that' can't be good for their concentration. Some just became
engaged or just got a great job, and I don't worry about their driving as much.
And then I think that some have been hit and run drivers, never caught.
Some have murdered someone and not been caught.
Every now-registered sex offender was once an unregistered innocent guy who
hadn't commited a crime. To only worry about registered,
punished-and-released guys is to pretend they're not making 'em like that anymore. It's a way
to make the world seem magically safer. It doesn't. Much of rape happens in
homes of people the girl knows, either by her relatives or a boyfriend's
relatives or a female friend's relatives. Stranger-snatching-crazy-movie rapes
are not the norm.
Sandra
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crrbuddy@... writes:
-=-Anyway, see if your registry doesn't turn up on Google. It's a bit
eery to look through all those names and faces and know they're
hanging out around town while our kids are running errands and
such.-=-
Sometimes when I'm driving my car around town, I think of what the other
drivers might be thinking, or knowing. Some are grieving a recent or impending
death, and that' can't be good for their concentration. Some just became
engaged or just got a great job, and I don't worry about their driving as much.
And then I think that some have been hit and run drivers, never caught.
Some have murdered someone and not been caught.
Every now-registered sex offender was once an unregistered innocent guy who
hadn't commited a crime. To only worry about registered,
punished-and-released guys is to pretend they're not making 'em like that anymore. It's a way
to make the world seem magically safer. It doesn't. Much of rape happens in
homes of people the girl knows, either by her relatives or a boyfriend's
relatives or a female friend's relatives. Stranger-snatching-crazy-movie rapes
are not the norm.
Sandra
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Pam Sorooshian
The registered sex offenders information in my state indicates the
crime - if it is statutory rape, for example, or lewd acts with a child
under 14, or rape, or whatever.
It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
-pam
crime - if it is statutory rape, for example, or lewd acts with a child
under 14, or rape, or whatever.
It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
-pam
On Apr 20, 2005, at 11:00 AM, SandraDodd@... wrote:
> Even if every neighbor goes and asks a guy what he did, he might not be
> honest, or it might have been a one-shot deal (statuatory rape is
> still a crime
> even if the younger person lies like a sonofabitch about her or his
> age).
Pam Sorooshian
On Apr 20, 2005, at 11:05 AM, SandraDodd@... wrote:
Girl Scout troop I was leader of - he'd been along on some of our
outings, driving girls in his car, etc. He had sole custody of his
daughter. That's all I know and I have no contact with them, anymore.
But - it seems worth having a quick look, to me, to see if there is
someone IN your life right now, someone who might sometimes be in your
home or your campsite or whatever, on the list.
Otherwise, yeah, there is no point to feeling more safe or less safe
because you know where some registered sex offenders say they live.
-pam
> Much of rape happens in homes of people the girl knows, either byI looked at our list and saw the father of a girl who had been in the
> her relatives or a boyfriend's
> relatives or a female friend's relatives.
Girl Scout troop I was leader of - he'd been along on some of our
outings, driving girls in his car, etc. He had sole custody of his
daughter. That's all I know and I have no contact with them, anymore.
But - it seems worth having a quick look, to me, to see if there is
someone IN your life right now, someone who might sometimes be in your
home or your campsite or whatever, on the list.
Otherwise, yeah, there is no point to feeling more safe or less safe
because you know where some registered sex offenders say they live.
-pam
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/20/2005 12:26:49 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
----------------
Good.
There have been a couple of really awful incidents in New Mexico where
neighbors band together to run a guy off. They've tormented some people here.
That's not how the justice system is intended to work. And I don't guess it
even occurs to them that other neighbors might have served time for violent
crimes or theft, and they're not freaking out about that.
As to illegality or rights, it probably isn't a federal law, is it? State
by state? Mabye not even statewide everywhere?
Sandra
Sandra
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
----------------
Good.
There have been a couple of really awful incidents in New Mexico where
neighbors band together to run a guy off. They've tormented some people here.
That's not how the justice system is intended to work. And I don't guess it
even occurs to them that other neighbors might have served time for violent
crimes or theft, and they're not freaking out about that.
As to illegality or rights, it probably isn't a federal law, is it? State
by state? Mabye not even statewide everywhere?
Sandra
Sandra
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[email protected]
This is also true in Iowa.
Chris
on 4/20/05 1:30 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
-=-=-==-=-
NOT federal.
There was a story on NPR last week or so about a neighborhood that
collectively bought the house of a guy who was recently released from
prison for sex crimes. It must have been a rather exclusive
neighborhood. They raised several hundred thousand dollars to buy the
house as well as an extra $5000 to help the guy move away from their
neighborhood.
The concern was that this guy would simply find another neighborhood
where the residents couldn't afford such a plan.
~Kelly
Chris
on 4/20/05 1:30 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
-=-=-==-=-
NOT federal.
There was a story on NPR last week or so about a neighborhood that
collectively bought the house of a guy who was recently released from
prison for sex crimes. It must have been a rather exclusive
neighborhood. They raised several hundred thousand dollars to buy the
house as well as an extra $5000 to help the guy move away from their
neighborhood.
The concern was that this guy would simply find another neighborhood
where the residents couldn't afford such a plan.
~Kelly
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/20/2005 1:21:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
Even if every neighbor goes and asks a guy what he did, he might not be
honest, or it might have been a one-shot deal (statuatory rape is still a
crime
even if the younger person lies like a sonofabitch about her or his age).
~~~
Right. I'd want to KNOW the guy. To KNOW him by name. Not harass him or
threaten him. Get to know him. It's the best chance I can give him to have
an honest shot at living in my neighborhood. I don't consider a person a
threat just because they've been to prison. I'm more concerned with the ones we
DON'T know about. Sometimes they're in our families.
Karen
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SandraDodd@... writes:
Even if every neighbor goes and asks a guy what he did, he might not be
honest, or it might have been a one-shot deal (statuatory rape is still a
crime
even if the younger person lies like a sonofabitch about her or his age).
~~~
Right. I'd want to KNOW the guy. To KNOW him by name. Not harass him or
threaten him. Get to know him. It's the best chance I can give him to have
an honest shot at living in my neighborhood. I don't consider a person a
threat just because they've been to prison. I'm more concerned with the ones we
DON'T know about. Sometimes they're in our families.
Karen
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/20/2005 1:33:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
~~~
I don't know if you can actually proclaim that as truth for every state in
the union. I'm not going to look up Arkansas now, but I will next week,
probably.
Karen
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SandraDodd@... writes:
It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
~~~
I don't know if you can actually proclaim that as truth for every state in
the union. I'm not going to look up Arkansas now, but I will next week,
probably.
Karen
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Pam Sorooshian
>Sorry - I only know for sure about California. I do know that
> It is absolutely illegal to USE the information you get off the
> registered sex offenders list to take ANY kind of action like making
> contact with the person based on it or hassling them in ANY way - if
> you used that list to get an address and went to their door and asked
> them about it, you'd be breaking the law.
> ~~~
>
> I don't know if you can actually proclaim that as truth for every
> state in
> the union. I'm not going to look up Arkansas now, but I will next
> week,
> probably.
>
> Karen
>
absolutely for certain - you can get that information by calling the
state hotline - before you can pay your $10 to have them look somebody
up to see if they're on the list, they make you listen to all the
conditions that basically say, "Once you have this information, if you
take any action of any kind based on it, you're breaking the law."
I don't know the answer - people who molest kids are sometimes super
personable, very trust-inspiring. Given that, I'm not sure what
"getting to know him" would tell you.
-pam
Dana Matt
> Even if every neighbor goes and asks a guy what heI looked up mine today, by googling my county name,
> did, he might not be
> honest, or it might have been a one-shot deal
> (statuatory rape is still a crime
> even if the younger person lies like a sonofabitch
> about her or his age).
sex offender list. It came up with the county's site,
and you had to agree NOT to act out against the people
before they would give you information--but I was
AMAZED at just how much information they did give.
Ages and descriptions of the sex acts, and who he was
most likely to be a threat to by sex and age.
Apparently there are two living together around the
corner from us, who will rape anyone from birth to 14
(according to the website), and "are not participating
in treatment programs"....
But I was heartened--we just moved from Montana, and I
looked it up there to find page after page after
page....literally hundreds of "sex offenders"--I think
they put in the peeing in the park ones, and the 18
yos with 17 yo girlfriends, but they didn't explain
that. This list was only about 20 names long, but
were actually people that the county thought might
offend again.
Dana
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In a message dated 4/20/2005 11:40:37 P.M. Central Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
don't know the answer - people who molest kids are sometimes super
personable, very trust-inspiring. Given that, I'm not sure what
"getting to know him" would tell you.
~~~
It's really not about me knowing him, but about him knowing me. Sandra
mentioned the secrecy that surrounds molestation in families. That's why it can
go on. Secrecy is a key element in almost any crime. If my friend is
gossiping about me behind my back, I'm going to let them know I know about it,
which removes their cover of secrecy, and is the best way to prevent further
gossip.
If a sexual predator moves into my neighborhood, I'm going to let them know
that I know about them, and remove their cover of secrecy, especially if it
could possibly involve my own kids. I did say that I "might" ask him about why
he's on the registry (could be a woman, I know). But likely not. He's
probably suspicious about folks already, just from having to be registered. If
he's not remorseful, he might be playing an angle with me so he can strike
again. Interaction would be limited to the conversation we had. I wouldn't
force it out of him. I'd be neighborly. Meeting a neighbor across the street
is innocent enough, the same way I know the wife-beater who actually does live
across from me. I know he hits his wife when he's drunk, because she told
me he does. I see the police there. If I can do something to remove his
cover of secrecy, and help my family or someone else (her), I will. So far, I
haven't had the opportunity. He knows me from when I offered jalapenos out of
my garden. Nicest guy in the world. If he got drunk and tried to hit *me*
when I brought over the extra cucumbers, well, isn't it better that I already
*know* he's a wife-beater?
I do happen to be the kind of person that is aware of people in the
neighborhood and who lives where and what their dog's name is, etc. I'm that way for
two reasons. A) I'm naturally curious about my environment, and B) I'm
naturally helpful, which means I will pick up the neighbor's trash can when it
blows into the street because I know that she's been out of town for a few
days, even though she didn't tell me. When I said I would drive by a registered
sex offender's house, I didn't mean I'd go out of my way to do it. I'd drive
by if it was convenient, the same way I would if there were a particular
house I like to look at, or street I prefer to drive on because it's beautiful,
or safer or quicker.
Back to the subject, I don't know about the first-time molesters or the ones
who haven't been caught. But again, they're more likely to be someone the
victim knows already I can lift the veil of secrecy with the ones I know
about. And they should know that I know. At least assume that *some* of their
neighbors are checking such things. What else is the registry for?
Karen
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
don't know the answer - people who molest kids are sometimes super
personable, very trust-inspiring. Given that, I'm not sure what
"getting to know him" would tell you.
~~~
It's really not about me knowing him, but about him knowing me. Sandra
mentioned the secrecy that surrounds molestation in families. That's why it can
go on. Secrecy is a key element in almost any crime. If my friend is
gossiping about me behind my back, I'm going to let them know I know about it,
which removes their cover of secrecy, and is the best way to prevent further
gossip.
If a sexual predator moves into my neighborhood, I'm going to let them know
that I know about them, and remove their cover of secrecy, especially if it
could possibly involve my own kids. I did say that I "might" ask him about why
he's on the registry (could be a woman, I know). But likely not. He's
probably suspicious about folks already, just from having to be registered. If
he's not remorseful, he might be playing an angle with me so he can strike
again. Interaction would be limited to the conversation we had. I wouldn't
force it out of him. I'd be neighborly. Meeting a neighbor across the street
is innocent enough, the same way I know the wife-beater who actually does live
across from me. I know he hits his wife when he's drunk, because she told
me he does. I see the police there. If I can do something to remove his
cover of secrecy, and help my family or someone else (her), I will. So far, I
haven't had the opportunity. He knows me from when I offered jalapenos out of
my garden. Nicest guy in the world. If he got drunk and tried to hit *me*
when I brought over the extra cucumbers, well, isn't it better that I already
*know* he's a wife-beater?
I do happen to be the kind of person that is aware of people in the
neighborhood and who lives where and what their dog's name is, etc. I'm that way for
two reasons. A) I'm naturally curious about my environment, and B) I'm
naturally helpful, which means I will pick up the neighbor's trash can when it
blows into the street because I know that she's been out of town for a few
days, even though she didn't tell me. When I said I would drive by a registered
sex offender's house, I didn't mean I'd go out of my way to do it. I'd drive
by if it was convenient, the same way I would if there were a particular
house I like to look at, or street I prefer to drive on because it's beautiful,
or safer or quicker.
Back to the subject, I don't know about the first-time molesters or the ones
who haven't been caught. But again, they're more likely to be someone the
victim knows already I can lift the veil of secrecy with the ones I know
about. And they should know that I know. At least assume that *some* of their
neighbors are checking such things. What else is the registry for?
Karen
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Penne & Buddies
--- In [email protected], tuckervill2@a... wrote:
Actually, sometimes there are falsely accused within our families.
CPS trumped up some charges of sexual molestation against the step-
grandfather of my (preschool age) grandniece after he offered to
emergency babysit one day, and he spent nearly a year in jail before
he was exonerated of the charges for lack of evidence. This man had
already raised four kids, one of his own and three of my brother's,
including two daughters -- all now in their mid-late thirties. If
he had been that kind of person, he would have had plenty of
opportunity to play that dirty little game when they were growing
up. Still, CPS had her mom and grandmother convinced by the time
they were finished unprofessionally interrogating this little girl
until she finally agreed to their assessment of the situation.
My ex-SIL threatened to divorce him after 30+ years of marriage, his
reputation was ruined, he lost his livelihood, and for what?
Despite it all, he hung in there and his family is actually back
together for the most part (although another marriage of nearly 15
years broke up after all the turmoil,) but the neighborly
speculation surely goes on and the scars will remain for a
lifetime. You can rest assured that he's not the first, nor will he
be the last innocent person to be burned at the stake (and I can
imagine that includes more than a few Catholic priests, "recovered
memories" and all) by a so-called child-protective system.
Our list has "predator" in red, but doesn't explain the
designation. I looked it up yesterday and promptly forgot the exact
definition, but I think it was for those who prey on minors and are
believed to be "at risk" for repeat offense. As for leaving my
babies at the bus stop or sending them off to walk down a busy
street to school or the park all alone -- you've got to be kidding.
People seem to be living in some kind of dream world if they don't
see problems with that. How many times do you think Jessica walked
past her killer's abode headed to and from school, where he also
happened to be employed?
This guy didn't have to take a chance by walking in her house and
stealing her away in the middle of the night (must have been pretty
high that time) -- he had every opportunity to snatch her without
anyone ever being the wiser. They may never have found her if he
had just gone back to his registered place of residence and played
innocent. The family had never even seen him hanging around or knew
his sister was one of their neighbors, according to the news.
People tell their kids never to swim without a capable and skilled
buddy, but encourage them to navigate the waters of society on their
own from the earliest ages. I was glad to hear that Keith gave
Kirby some straight talk about the pizza delivery, although I really
thought the odds of being robbed weren't really that high (guess it
depends on the area.)
Nike was considering the postal service (very short-handed here) and
there are an awful lot of social security checks being delivered in
our retirement community, but I was more concerned about dogs (she
wasn't) myself :oP Now the thought of being in close contact with
sexual offenders and crackheads is crossing my mind as well. She's
not any more keen on college than Kirby after a life of learning in
freedom, so they are both at a crossroad in their lives.
Nike applied at a few stores to earn some money for her trip to
Toronto, but nobody ever called back. The information she provided
was pretty generic. Does Kirby really have to take the GED to get a
_bona fide_ job after all those years of working in the gaming
field? I thought that stating their homeschool grad status
adequately filled in the blank, but maybe I'm wrong.
> Right. I'd want to KNOW the guy. To KNOW him by name. Notharass him or
> threaten him. Get to know him. It's the best chance I can givehim to have
> an honest shot at living in my neighborhood. I don't consider aperson a
> threat just because they've been to prison. I'm more concernedwith the ones we
> DON'T know about. Sometimes they're in our families.-------------------------
>
> Karen
>
Actually, sometimes there are falsely accused within our families.
CPS trumped up some charges of sexual molestation against the step-
grandfather of my (preschool age) grandniece after he offered to
emergency babysit one day, and he spent nearly a year in jail before
he was exonerated of the charges for lack of evidence. This man had
already raised four kids, one of his own and three of my brother's,
including two daughters -- all now in their mid-late thirties. If
he had been that kind of person, he would have had plenty of
opportunity to play that dirty little game when they were growing
up. Still, CPS had her mom and grandmother convinced by the time
they were finished unprofessionally interrogating this little girl
until she finally agreed to their assessment of the situation.
My ex-SIL threatened to divorce him after 30+ years of marriage, his
reputation was ruined, he lost his livelihood, and for what?
Despite it all, he hung in there and his family is actually back
together for the most part (although another marriage of nearly 15
years broke up after all the turmoil,) but the neighborly
speculation surely goes on and the scars will remain for a
lifetime. You can rest assured that he's not the first, nor will he
be the last innocent person to be burned at the stake (and I can
imagine that includes more than a few Catholic priests, "recovered
memories" and all) by a so-called child-protective system.
Our list has "predator" in red, but doesn't explain the
designation. I looked it up yesterday and promptly forgot the exact
definition, but I think it was for those who prey on minors and are
believed to be "at risk" for repeat offense. As for leaving my
babies at the bus stop or sending them off to walk down a busy
street to school or the park all alone -- you've got to be kidding.
People seem to be living in some kind of dream world if they don't
see problems with that. How many times do you think Jessica walked
past her killer's abode headed to and from school, where he also
happened to be employed?
This guy didn't have to take a chance by walking in her house and
stealing her away in the middle of the night (must have been pretty
high that time) -- he had every opportunity to snatch her without
anyone ever being the wiser. They may never have found her if he
had just gone back to his registered place of residence and played
innocent. The family had never even seen him hanging around or knew
his sister was one of their neighbors, according to the news.
People tell their kids never to swim without a capable and skilled
buddy, but encourage them to navigate the waters of society on their
own from the earliest ages. I was glad to hear that Keith gave
Kirby some straight talk about the pizza delivery, although I really
thought the odds of being robbed weren't really that high (guess it
depends on the area.)
Nike was considering the postal service (very short-handed here) and
there are an awful lot of social security checks being delivered in
our retirement community, but I was more concerned about dogs (she
wasn't) myself :oP Now the thought of being in close contact with
sexual offenders and crackheads is crossing my mind as well. She's
not any more keen on college than Kirby after a life of learning in
freedom, so they are both at a crossroad in their lives.
Nike applied at a few stores to earn some money for her trip to
Toronto, but nobody ever called back. The information she provided
was pretty generic. Does Kirby really have to take the GED to get a
_bona fide_ job after all those years of working in the gaming
field? I thought that stating their homeschool grad status
adequately filled in the blank, but maybe I'm wrong.