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That was a blast!!
Elissa
Mystik Hill Farm
Kearneysville, WV


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It is SO FUN looking at poetry or classic quotes. From Lord of the Rings,
about the ring:


This is tha One Ring lost many years ago,
ta tha bootylicious weaken'n of its pimp powa.
Now, he greatly desires ta have it again,
- but he must NOT git it"


Elrond's bless'n at tha departure of tha company fizzle Rivendell
Farewell, n may tha bless'n of Elves n Men n all Fizzle Fiznolk go wit you.
May tha stars shine upon yo faces!


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Emily and I just translated the balcony scene in R& J. It actually didn't
change much! LOL
There was an interesting link to a page title "Smokin' blunts wit da Bard"

Elissa
Mystik Hill Farm
Kearneysville, WV


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Abby Aldrich

If you like Gizoogle, try this:
http://www.playerappreciate.com/pimphandle.asp
You just type in your name and it gives you a pimp name. My kids
thought it was hilarious.
Abby
AKA
Macktastic Abby Smooth


Amy Childs

My kids and I thought this was great fun, we sent our new pimpy names
to our friends and they all played too. We thought it was hilarious.

Then somewhere along the line, one of my daughters (aka Pimptastic K.
Sneed) sent her pimp name to her whole address book, including her
grandpa, who then sent me an email that said "This is so sad; does she
even know what a pimp is?"

hmmm.

It has been a great opportunity to discuss words, the use of language,
the subleties of humor, and the sex industry. Good stuff.

I am pondering my response to my dad (who is already concerned that I
might not be giving my kids enough religious values), and wondered if
anyone here would care to share what they would say in the same
situation.

amy

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In a message dated 4/4/05 12:11:01 PM, amyc@... writes:

<< I am pondering my response to my dad (who is already concerned that I

might not be giving my kids enough religious values), and wondered if

anyone here would care to share what they would say in the same

situation. >>

I would say it's more a reference to a character stereotype in movies
(mostly, these days, comedies) in which pimps are shown with garish animal-print
hats, purple velvet coats, crazed sunglasses and cartoonish cadillacs. It's not
about real pimps or real prostitution.

Kirby was a "pimp daddy" at Halloween this year. We worked quite a while on
his "jeweled cane" (improving a cheap storebought one that came with the
velvet suite into a solid black wood with gold tip really useable cane with the
same crazed glitter-in-water costume "jewel" top. It was good for a few jokes.
He borrowed a big-collar shirt from his dad's closet and some "gold chains"
from me (and a horny-toad necklace I just happened to have with much other 80's
stuff).

Now just remind your kids not to copy grandpa on anything with the slang
phrase "that's so gay."

I objected to that the first few times I heard it, but the kids looked at me
blankly the way I looked at my dad when he objected to "bitchen!" in 1968,
assuming it had anything on earth with the term or idea "bitch." It didn't seem
to to anyone who was using it.

I think the 'that's so gay' among kids Holly's age has more to do with Big
Gay Al on South Park than anything else.

Sandra

Mark and Amanda Philip

<< "This is so sad; does she even know what a pimp is?" >>

I can see where your dad is coming from ... maybe your dad doesn't like the idea of pimps being a joke to his grandchildren; maybe he feels that they are 'too young' to need to know about this part of our world (I don't know how old your kids are). Perhaps laughing at 'pimp names' is desensitizing our kids to the serious issues of prostitution, abuse and degradation of women, etc. That being said, you took this opportunity to discuss words, language, and the sex industry with your children. Have you considered sharing that fact with your father? Letting him know what discussions were sparked while playing the name-game? That might be somewhere to start.


<< I think the 'that's so gay' among kids Holly's age has more to do with Big
Gay Al on South Park than anything else. >>

When I was in elementary school (till '89) and high school (till '93) we used to say "that's so gay" and it was interchangeable with "that's so retarded" (sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone). It just meant something like 'stupid' or 'lame'. I can tell you almost certainly it didn't come from a TV show ... and I still (unfortunately) use those phrases today in the same context.


x Amanda x
(new member / dd Timber : almost three years old)

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Jackie Chovanes

On Apr 4, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Mark and Amanda Philip wrote:

> When I was in elementary school (till '89) and high school (till '93)
> we used to say "that's so gay" and it was interchangeable with "that's
> so retarded" (sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone). It just meant
> something like 'stupid' or 'lame'. I can tell you almost certainly it
> didn't come from a TV show ... and I still (unfortunately) use those
> phrases today in the same context.

Same here, although my dates are different -- I graduated from high
school in 1983. That supports the claim that those phrases didn't come
from a TV show, as the same shows weren't on when you and I were in
school.

Maybe it's regional? I grew up in NE Pennsylvania.

It was hard to train myself not to use those phrases, but once I moved
away and realized they weren't universally accepted, I was able to.

Jackie Chovanes
jchovanes@...

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In a message dated 4/4/05 12:37:06 PM, SandraDodd@... writes:

<< I think the 'that's so gay' among kids Holly's age has more to do with Big
Gay Al on South Park than anything else. >>

Among kids Holly's age, I think their main association with "gay" is humorous
stuff like South Park. Not suggesting that's where they got it, but their
image is more likely that, just as kids' image of "pimp" is more likely
comedy-routine pimp than honest, gritty whatever-much-older-people-are-thinking pimp.

Sandra

wifetovegman2002

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> Among kids Holly's age, I think their main association with "gay" is
humorous
> stuff like South Park. Not suggesting that's where they got it, but
their
> image is more likely that, just as kids' image of "pimp" is more likely
> comedy-routine pimp than honest, gritty
whatever-much-older-people-are-thinking pimp.



I've heard my kids' friends use the term "pimp" to mean to make
something all gaudy and decked out to the max (like a car or outfit),
or to try to sell something (not just in reference to sex, but cars,
or concert tickets, or encyclopedias, or anything else).

I think the word has lost a lot of the shock value it used to carry.



~Susan McGlohn
http://radicalchristianunschool.homestead.com/index.html

"Isn't it splendid to think of all the things there are to find out
about? It just makes me feel glad to be alive -- it's such an
interesting world." Anne of Green Gables ~ Lucy Montgomery

Mark and Amanda Philip

<< Maybe it's regional? I grew up in NE Pennsylvania. >>

I grew up in Southern Ontario, Canada ... a far cry from PA :o) Strange, though, that with the difference in location, and dates (even when considering Holly and her friends) we seem to have a similar slang. It transends time ...

(PS: I do have a sense of humour ... my pimp name was Vicious D.A. Dogg ... lol)


x Amanda x
(new member / dd Timber : almost three years old)

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Mary

From: "wifetovegman2002" <wifetovegman2002@...>

snipped <<I've heard my kids' friends use the term "pimp" to mean to make
something all gaudy and decked out to the max (like a car or outfit),>>




Like MTV's Pimp My Ride!!! I love that show.

Mary B

Diana Tashjian

*I* was shocked to see the word "pimped" used as an adjective in
Newsweek a few months ago. So I guess it's now a relatively accepted
word...

Diana Tashjian