Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] vitriol and off-list comments
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In a message dated 07/02/2000 2:58:25 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
tracy.oldfield@... writes:
<< One thing that struck me was the reaction to being posted offlist. I
have always understood this to be an appropriate way of continuing
or commenting on an on-list discussion which has worn out its
welcome on the list. No doubt I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but I
thought this was proper netiquette.
And so endeth lesson no.2 <g>
Tracy >>
Well, I thought so too.
But maybe some people would rather be asked while the chat is on-list -- "May
I continue this discussion with you privately off-list?" -- rather than just
getting an email privately.
Then they could accept or decline and not feel intruded upon.
Nance
tracy.oldfield@... writes:
<< One thing that struck me was the reaction to being posted offlist. I
have always understood this to be an appropriate way of continuing
or commenting on an on-list discussion which has worn out its
welcome on the list. No doubt I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but I
thought this was proper netiquette.
And so endeth lesson no.2 <g>
Tracy >>
Well, I thought so too.
But maybe some people would rather be asked while the chat is on-list -- "May
I continue this discussion with you privately off-list?" -- rather than just
getting an email privately.
Then they could accept or decline and not feel intruded upon.
Nance
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In a message dated 7/2/00 10:58:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
tracy.oldfield@... writes:
<< But I thought I'd say that while these were very
strongly-felt topics I didn't perceive any specific bashing of anyone. >>
well, i felt the same way... the only bashing i saw was someone's responses
that felt they were being bashed... lol... and i never perceived that they
were...
tracy.oldfield@... writes:
<< But I thought I'd say that while these were very
strongly-felt topics I didn't perceive any specific bashing of anyone. >>
well, i felt the same way... the only bashing i saw was someone's responses
that felt they were being bashed... lol... and i never perceived that they
were...
susan wilson
dia and i have continued off-list and i felt it was a good move. i
understand her position better now (though honestly i was not really
keeping up with the whole thing:) to me she comes across as a
passion person making a sincere effort to do what is right for her
children - what more can one ask. when one is sincere and honest a
child knows this and that, imo, builds a stronger foundation than any
externally movtivated reason simply because the parent is internally
motivated and true to themselves and their own beliefs.
judgments are a precarious thing like the vedics say poison can be
turned into nectar. something i know is possible because i feel that
due to my own abusive upbringing i possess a deep compassion for
others which, imo, is a good thing - 'nectar from poison'. so who am
i to judge the choices of another w/out knowing the intricate details
of the given situation.
i think - imo- the bottom-line problem, or perhaps the common ground,
is w/ parents who make choices, which are potentially harmful or
detrimental to the well being of their child(ren) when other choice
are available, and they do so with utter disregard for the consequence
of those choice - e.g. spanking as the first and only choice for
discipline; daycare used as a self-serving tool while disregarding
other possibilities - basic unconscious responses. all choices -imo-
should be made consciously and deliberately with as full (as possible)
knowledge of the pros and cons - be those choices about working,
spanking, breastfeeding, vaccination .......... - these are personal
choices and are completely unique to each and every family and no
blanket right or wrong stance make sense - warning/knowledge of the
risks - yes, blind judgement/disregard of the specifics -no.
jmo,
susan,
austin,tx
understand her position better now (though honestly i was not really
keeping up with the whole thing:) to me she comes across as a
passion person making a sincere effort to do what is right for her
children - what more can one ask. when one is sincere and honest a
child knows this and that, imo, builds a stronger foundation than any
externally movtivated reason simply because the parent is internally
motivated and true to themselves and their own beliefs.
judgments are a precarious thing like the vedics say poison can be
turned into nectar. something i know is possible because i feel that
due to my own abusive upbringing i possess a deep compassion for
others which, imo, is a good thing - 'nectar from poison'. so who am
i to judge the choices of another w/out knowing the intricate details
of the given situation.
i think - imo- the bottom-line problem, or perhaps the common ground,
is w/ parents who make choices, which are potentially harmful or
detrimental to the well being of their child(ren) when other choice
are available, and they do so with utter disregard for the consequence
of those choice - e.g. spanking as the first and only choice for
discipline; daycare used as a self-serving tool while disregarding
other possibilities - basic unconscious responses. all choices -imo-
should be made consciously and deliberately with as full (as possible)
knowledge of the pros and cons - be those choices about working,
spanking, breastfeeding, vaccination .......... - these are personal
choices and are completely unique to each and every family and no
blanket right or wrong stance make sense - warning/knowledge of the
risks - yes, blind judgement/disregard of the specifics -no.
jmo,
susan,
austin,tx
> One thing that struck me was the reaction to being posted offlist.I
> have always understood this to be an appropriate way of continuing
> or commenting on an on-list discussion which has worn out its
> welcome on the list. No doubt I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but I
> thought this was proper netiquette.
>
> And so endeth lesson no.2 <g>
> Tracy
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In a message dated 7/2/00 12:41:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
fxfireob@... writes:
<< dia and i have continued off-list and i felt it was a good move. i
understand her position better now (though honestly i was not really
keeping up with the whole thing:) to me she comes across as a
passion person making a sincere effort to do what is right for her
children - what more can one ask. >>
same here
fxfireob@... writes:
<< dia and i have continued off-list and i felt it was a good move. i
understand her position better now (though honestly i was not really
keeping up with the whole thing:) to me she comes across as a
passion person making a sincere effort to do what is right for her
children - what more can one ask. >>
same here
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In a message dated 7/2/2000 10:17:41 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
Whyner@... writes:
<< << dia and i have continued off-list and i felt it was a good move. i
understand her position better now (though honestly i was not really
keeping up with the whole thing:) to me she comes across as a
passion person making a sincere effort to do what is right for her
children - what more can one ask. >>
same here
Whyner@... writes:
<< << dia and i have continued off-list and i felt it was a good move. i
understand her position better now (though honestly i was not really
keeping up with the whole thing:) to me she comes across as a
passion person making a sincere effort to do what is right for her
children - what more can one ask. >>
same here
>>me too
Amy
One thing that struck me was the reaction to being posted offlist. I
tracy,
i agree with you that ot conversations that go on too long should be
continued off list. however, i think it's only appropriate if the person
sending the message extends an invite to the replier/s. if you feel like
you're being attacked by someone it's nice to be able to go off list to get
away. if people are "following you home" (not my words) you can't achieve
this. JMHO of course.<g>
amy
> have always understood this to be an appropriate way of continuing--
> or commenting on an on-list discussion which has worn out its
> welcome on the list. No doubt I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but I
> thought this was proper netiquette
tracy,
i agree with you that ot conversations that go on too long should be
continued off list. however, i think it's only appropriate if the person
sending the message extends an invite to the replier/s. if you feel like
you're being attacked by someone it's nice to be able to go off list to get
away. if people are "following you home" (not my words) you can't achieve
this. JMHO of course.<g>
amy
>
Nanci and Thomas Kuykendall
>But maybe some people would rather be asked while the chat is on-list -- "MayI agree. I think that if the message is an unwelcome one (ie: a debate one did not wish to continue, or some such) it can FEEL (intentions not withstanding) very much like one of those phone solicitors calling during your dinner hour when you have out of town guests: Very irritating, inconvenient and inconsiderate.
>I continue this discussion with you privately off-list?" -- rather than just
>getting an email privately.
>
>Then they could accept or decline and not feel intruded upon.
>
>Nance
Nanci K.
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