Dia Garland

I did not "follow you home".  I responded privately because it seemed that everyone here is tired of having to wade through the posts on this subject.  I have been emailed privately before and it has never bothered me.  It would not have occured ot me to see this as bullying.  That was never my intention, I was simply answering your post. 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Pris
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:32 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] EXCUSE ME???

EXCUSE ME EVERYONE ... I BELIEVE I'VE BEEN FOLLOWED HOME BY A BULLY!!!
 
... I've included her below so EVERYONE will know just the type of character we have on our list!!!  
 
*IF* you've recognized yourself, that's NOT FROM ANYTHING I DID, YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF!!!  NO, I DIDN'T DELETE YOUR POST @ THE END OF BRYNN'S POST B/C IT WAS PART OF *HER* POST!!!    ha, SO, you RECOGNIZED YOURSELF!!!
 
DO *NOT*, I REPEAT, DO NOT *EVER* E-M ME PRIVATELY ABOUT ANYTHING OFF LIST OR I'LL TURN YOU INTO E-GROUPS SO FAST IT'LL MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN!!!  
 
YOU WILL ***NOT*** BULLY ME, LADY!!! 
 
Pris
 
 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:07 PM
Subject: off list

Re-read your post and tell me if it doesn't fall into the "Bratty" category?
It looks that way from here.  Yes, I agree totally that it is too bad that a
few self-centered  people can ruin a list with their rude, narrow minded
comments just because others don't share their views on life. We are all
entitled to our views whether you personally agree with them or not, and I
would appreciate it if you would remember that.

Dia

----- Original Message -----
From: Pris <x_t_sipr@...>
To: Unschooling-dotcom <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:32 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] DELETE, DELETE, DELETE


> *THANK YOU, Brynn* ... I've seriously considered UNSUB due to the VERY
> things you stated last night ...  thanks for saying what I'm sure a LOT of
> the other mbs are thinking, as well ...  its very pathetic situation when
a
> FEW self-centered people feel they can CONSTANTLY run roughshod over their
> fellow loop mbs w/ rude,
> inconsiderate and narrow-minded posts and RUIN a perfectly informative
loop
> for everyone else ... as a newbie UNschooler, I joined this list for
SUPPORT
> not ARGUING ... *eeegads*, if I want arguing, I can just call my mil for
> *THAT*!!!  <NO LOL>
>
> it's easy to hide behind the anonymity of a computer monitor when taking
pot
> shots, criticizing and picking @  others just b/c they DON'T SHARE *YOUR*
> PHILOSOPHY ABOUT LIFE!!! ... ha, chances are I DOUBT these *FEW* would
have
> the nerve to speak in this manner if we were chatting fact to face; sort
of
> *BRATTY* don't you think???
>
> my reaction to all of this *MONITOR RAGE* is similar to how I feel when
> hearing of *yet* another ROAD RAGE incident; total disgust!!!   basically
> *SANE* people hiding behind their computer monitors like those who involve
> themselves in road rage *hide* behind their cars ... it's SO RIDICULOUS!!!
> ha ...
>
> Pris ~> who'z in complete agreement w/ you, Brynn AND WHO'Z EVER SO
GRATEFUL
> FOR HER DELETE BUTTON!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brynn <panchot@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] abuse -Dia
>
>
> > Ok, yet another one here that was going to stay out of this one, but
can't
> > help myself. I am not here to agree or disagree with anyone.
> >
> > I am here to say that even though I have been quite tolerant and patient
> of
> > these emails filling my inbox these last few days, it's a bit tiring
> seeing
> > some really judgmental and quite rude statements. Everybody does things
> > differently, and what works for some doesn't work for all. I can
> understand
> > soapboxes, and how people feel very passionately about certain things.
But
> > all of the rudeness has gotten to the point that it's embarrassing to
> think
> > that anyone would visit this list to subscribe and see so much harshness
> and
> > downright meanness. It's one thing to make room for other's views and
also
> > to disagree with them. It's another to be so intolerant and rude. I'm
> weary
> > of all of this, and yes Dia, I have given you some attention that you
seem
> > to be needy of by directing this email toward you, as it's mainly your
> > defensive, aggressive, condescension that I am addressing.
> >
> > Now, I'm sure this email won't make a bit of difference to some, but
there
> > are so many other topics that we can introduce rather then allowing some
> of
> > this rudeness to continue.
> >
> > Dia, could you possibly reply to someone's email without dissecting it
and
> > flaming them? (and if you want to copy and paste this into an email with
> > excerpts from other emails that you have replied to without flaming
> someone,
> > feel free).
> >
> > Much love to all,
> >
> > Brynn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dia Garland [mailto:moocow@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 8:19 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] abuse
> >
> >
> > >>.  Anytime you physically touch someone without their
> > > > > permission, it could be constituted as abuse<<
> >
> > >>.  Accidental contact is one thing and that
> > > is not what I was talking about.<<
> >
> > These are two different statements.  The first is what I was replying
to.
> > You said "anytime".  On another list I probably would have realized that
> the
> > writer was exaggerating somewhat, here I just don't know.  It's like
> jumping
> > into a group of pirahnas.  I am very glad that you don't scream "abuse"
if
> > someone bumps you in line.
> >
> >   Spanking is intentionally hurting someone
> > > in a way that is not acceptable. <<
> >
> > It may not be acceptable in your opinion, that does not mean that it is
> not
> > acceptable to everyone.  Your opinion is not the only one in existence.
> >
> > > You are humiliating your child any time you lay a hand on them.  Trust
> me,
> > > I've been one of those children.<<
> >
> > I am not humiliating my child, I am correcting my child.  I was beaten
as
> a
> > child, and I know full well the difference between beating and spanking.
> > No, I don't trust you.  Not even a little bit.
> >
> >
>
>
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Pris

Hey everyone ...
 
I just wanted to drop in for a sec to say *see~ya* ... we're flying out 1st thing in the morning to visit my fm for a long wknd and to celebrate my mother's 77th b-day (July 4th) ... sooooooo, everyone stay safe, enjoy your cold watermelon and have a great July 4th wknd ...  
 
and Dia, sweetheart ... please continue right along arguing w/ yourself while I'm gone, *yadda~yadda~yadda*
 ...  *blow~baby~blow* ~> here'z me blowing you off ...  ooooooooooOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOO
oooooooooooOOOOOOOOooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOooooooooooooOOOOO
 
Pris ... hahaha ...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] EXCUSE ME???

I did not "follow you home".  I responded privately because it seemed that everyone here is tired of having to wade through the posts on this subject.  I have been emailed privately before and it has never bothered me.  It would not have occured ot me to see this as bullying.  That was never my intention, I was simply answering your post. 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Pris
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:32 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] EXCUSE ME???

EXCUSE ME EVERYONE ... I BELIEVE I'VE BEEN FOLLOWED HOME BY A BULLY!!!
 
... I've included her below so EVERYONE will know just the type of character we have on our list!!!  
 
*IF* you've recognized yourself, that's NOT FROM ANYTHING I DID, YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF!!!  NO, I DIDN'T DELETE YOUR POST @ THE END OF BRYNN'S POST B/C IT WAS PART OF *HER* POST!!!    ha, SO, you RECOGNIZED YOURSELF!!!
 
DO *NOT*, I REPEAT, DO NOT *EVER* E-M ME PRIVATELY ABOUT ANYTHING OFF LIST OR I'LL TURN YOU INTO E-GROUPS SO FAST IT'LL MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN!!!  
 
YOU WILL ***NOT*** BULLY ME, LADY!!! 
 
Pris
 
 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:07 PM
Subject: off list

Re-read your post and tell me if it doesn't fall into the "Bratty" category?
It looks that way from here.  Yes, I agree totally that it is too bad that a
few self-centered  people can ruin a list with their rude, narrow minded
comments just because others don't share their views on life. We are all
entitled to our views whether you personally agree with them or not, and I
would appreciate it if you would remember that.

Dia

----- Original Message -----
From: Pris <x_t_sipr@...>
To: Unschooling-dotcom <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:32 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] DELETE, DELETE, DELETE


> *THANK YOU, Brynn* ... I've seriously considered UNSUB due to the VERY
> things you stated last night ...  thanks for saying what I'm sure a LOT of
> the other mbs are thinking, as well ...  its very pathetic situation when
a
> FEW self-centered people feel they can CONSTANTLY run roughshod over their
> fellow loop mbs w/ rude,
> inconsiderate and narrow-minded posts and RUIN a perfectly informative
loop
> for everyone else ... as a newbie UNschooler, I joined this list for
SUPPORT
> not ARGUING ... *eeegads*, if I want arguing, I can just call my mil for
> *THAT*!!!  <NO LOL>
>
> it's easy to hide behind the anonymity of a computer monitor when taking
pot
> shots, criticizing and picking @  others just b/c they DON'T SHARE *YOUR*
> PHILOSOPHY ABOUT LIFE!!! ... ha, chances are I DOUBT these *FEW* would
have
> the nerve to speak in this manner if we were chatting fact to face; sort
of
> *BRATTY* don't you think???
>
> my reaction to all of this *MONITOR RAGE* is similar to how I feel when
> hearing of *yet* another ROAD RAGE incident; total disgust!!!   basically
> *SANE* people hiding behind their computer monitors like those who involve
> themselves in road rage *hide* behind their cars ... it's SO RIDICULOUS!!!
> ha ...
>
> Pris ~> who'z in complete agreement w/ you, Brynn AND WHO'Z EVER SO
GRATEFUL
> FOR HER DELETE BUTTON!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brynn <panchot@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] abuse -Dia
>
>
> > Ok, yet another one here that was going to stay out of this one, but
can't
> > help myself. I am not here to agree or disagree with anyone.
> >
> > I am here to say that even though I have been quite tolerant and patient
> of
> > these emails filling my inbox these last few days, it's a bit tiring
> seeing
> > some really judgmental and quite rude statements. Everybody does things
> > differently, and what works for some doesn't work for all. I can
> understand
> > soapboxes, and how people feel very passionately about certain things.
But
> > all of the rudeness has gotten to the point that it's embarrassing to
> think
> > that anyone would visit this list to subscribe and see so much harshness
> and
> > downright meanness. It's one thing to make room for other's views and
also
> > to disagree with them. It's another to be so intolerant and rude. I'm
> weary
> > of all of this, and yes Dia, I have given you some attention that you
seem
> > to be needy of by directing this email toward you, as it's mainly your
> > defensive, aggressive, condescension that I am addressing.
> >
> > Now, I'm sure this email won't make a bit of difference to some, but
there
> > are so many other topics that we can introduce rather then allowing some
> of
> > this rudeness to continue.
> >
> > Dia, could you possibly reply to someone's email without dissecting it
and
> > flaming them? (and if you want to copy and paste this into an email with
> > excerpts from other emails that you have replied to without flaming
> someone,
> > feel free).
> >
> > Much love to all,
> >
> > Brynn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dia Garland [mailto:moocow@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 8:19 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] abuse
> >
> >
> > >>.  Anytime you physically touch someone without their
> > > > > permission, it could be constituted as abuse<<
> >
> > >>.  Accidental contact is one thing and that
> > > is not what I was talking about.<<
> >
> > These are two different statements.  The first is what I was replying
to.
> > You said "anytime".  On another list I probably would have realized that
> the
> > writer was exaggerating somewhat, here I just don't know.  It's like
> jumping
> > into a group of pirahnas.  I am very glad that you don't scream "abuse"
if
> > someone bumps you in line.
> >
> >   Spanking is intentionally hurting someone
> > > in a way that is not acceptable. <<
> >
> > It may not be acceptable in your opinion, that does not mean that it is
> not
> > acceptable to everyone.  Your opinion is not the only one in existence.
> >
> > > You are humiliating your child any time you lay a hand on them.  Trust
> me,
> > > I've been one of those children.<<
> >
> > I am not humiliating my child, I am correcting my child.  I was beaten
as
> a
> > child, and I know full well the difference between beating and spanking.
> > No, I don't trust you.  Not even a little bit.
> >