Live & Learn conference
Sylvia Toyama
I'd love to come to this year's conference, but the prospect of
driving two days with the kids is beyond daunting. Are there plans
to have anywhere within one days drive of Albuquerque in the next
few years? Or am I just going to have to suck it up and make the
drive?
I've been considering the Rethinking Education, only because it's
just one day's drive, but I think I'd really like Live & Learn
better. So, c'mon guys, convince me it's really worth 4 days in the
car with two bored kids. I may be able to talk my dh into coming
along, but it would mean burning up virtually all his vacation time,
and in St. Louis no less. What else is there to in St. Louis? Is
Charlotte, NC within a day's drive or a few hours of Memphis, so we
could combine other family visiting at the same time?
Sylvia
driving two days with the kids is beyond daunting. Are there plans
to have anywhere within one days drive of Albuquerque in the next
few years? Or am I just going to have to suck it up and make the
drive?
I've been considering the Rethinking Education, only because it's
just one day's drive, but I think I'd really like Live & Learn
better. So, c'mon guys, convince me it's really worth 4 days in the
car with two bored kids. I may be able to talk my dh into coming
along, but it would mean burning up virtually all his vacation time,
and in St. Louis no less. What else is there to in St. Louis? Is
Charlotte, NC within a day's drive or a few hours of Memphis, so we
could combine other family visiting at the same time?
Sylvia
Jenny Altenbach
Sylvia Toyama wrote:
out Sandra--you'd have a parade going through your house!!!)
What better time to be here than in October? Of course, we'd need to
schedule it so that people can also be here for the International
Balloon Fiesta either before or after.
Isn't it in San Diego in 2007?
Jenny
>In a few years I'd be willing to help host one right here in ABQ! (Look
> I'd love to come to this year's conference, but the prospect of
> driving two days with the kids is beyond daunting. Are there plans
> to have anywhere within one days drive of Albuquerque in the next
> few years? Or am I just going to have to suck it up and make the
> drive?
out Sandra--you'd have a parade going through your house!!!)
What better time to be here than in October? Of course, we'd need to
schedule it so that people can also be here for the International
Balloon Fiesta either before or after.
Isn't it in San Diego in 2007?
Jenny
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In a message dated 2/15/2005 10:52:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Sylvia Toyama" <sylgt04@...> writes:
I'd love to come to this year's conference, but the prospect of driving two days with the kids is beyond daunting. Are there plans to have anywhere within one days drive of Albuquerque in the next few years? Or am I just going to have to suck it up and make the drive?<<<<<
Suck it up and make the drive. <g>
better. So, c'mon guys, convince me it's really worth 4 days in the
car with two bored kids. <<<<<<
How many hours IS it to drive? I do 12 hours easy in a car---some people wouold make that a three day trip.
There are ways to avoid boredom in cars: frequent stops, tvs, video games, new CDs, books on tape/CD, new toys (dollar store), maps----tons of ideas.
and in St. Louis no less.<<<<<
What do you MEAN "in St Louis, no less"????? COOL city! LOTS to do!
It's all within a day's drive, depending on what you mean by a day! <g> I drive from Columbia, SC to St Louis easy in a day. I think it's 12 hours with stops. Memphis is closer by several hours (5?). St Louis is 5 hours from Chicago, Nashville, Memphis, Kansas City---kind of 5 hours from anywhere! <G>
Go to the Live & Learn site and read the testimonials---if THEY can't convince you.....
~Kelly
I'd love to come to this year's conference, but the prospect of driving two days with the kids is beyond daunting. Are there plans to have anywhere within one days drive of Albuquerque in the next few years? Or am I just going to have to suck it up and make the drive?<<<<<
Suck it up and make the drive. <g>
>>>>>>I've been considering the Rethinking Education, only because it'sjust one day's drive, but I think I'd really like Live & Learn
better. So, c'mon guys, convince me it's really worth 4 days in the
car with two bored kids. <<<<<<
How many hours IS it to drive? I do 12 hours easy in a car---some people wouold make that a three day trip.
There are ways to avoid boredom in cars: frequent stops, tvs, video games, new CDs, books on tape/CD, new toys (dollar store), maps----tons of ideas.
>>>>I may be able to talk my dh into comingalong, but it would mean burning up virtually all his vacation time,
and in St. Louis no less.<<<<<
What do you MEAN "in St Louis, no less"????? COOL city! LOTS to do!
>>>>What else is there to in St. Louis?<<<<www.google.com Plug in St Louis! Seriously! Jam-packed full of things to do. So many you'd need TWO trips to take it all in!
>>>>>>Is Charlotte, NC within a day's drive or a few hours of Memphis, so we could combine other family visiting at the same time?<<<<You meant to tell me you come to Charlotte NC and don't call me???? <g>
It's all within a day's drive, depending on what you mean by a day! <g> I drive from Columbia, SC to St Louis easy in a day. I think it's 12 hours with stops. Memphis is closer by several hours (5?). St Louis is 5 hours from Chicago, Nashville, Memphis, Kansas City---kind of 5 hours from anywhere! <G>
Go to the Live & Learn site and read the testimonials---if THEY can't convince you.....
~Kelly
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In a message dated 2/15/05 8:55:25 AM, sylgt04@... writes:
<< and in St. Louis no less. What else is there to in St. Louis? >>
Tons of good St. Louis stuff.
I thought about the possibility of a conference using the Old Town Sheraton,
but I think it's just too small a hotel. It's the only hotel I know of that's
within walking distance of really cool stuff, though. Maybe a
mini-conference, but how would we keep it small enough for the hotel? That I don't know.
Any hotel project anytime around balloon fiesta would be bad. Hotels fill
up. Off season (away from state fair or balloons or summer) should be cheaper,
I think.
Sandra
<< and in St. Louis no less. What else is there to in St. Louis? >>
Tons of good St. Louis stuff.
I thought about the possibility of a conference using the Old Town Sheraton,
but I think it's just too small a hotel. It's the only hotel I know of that's
within walking distance of really cool stuff, though. Maybe a
mini-conference, but how would we keep it small enough for the hotel? That I don't know.
Any hotel project anytime around balloon fiesta would be bad. Hotels fill
up. Off season (away from state fair or balloons or summer) should be cheaper,
I think.
Sandra
Cally Brown
If I had the money, I'd be going - and I'd be coming all the way from
New Zealand! I found immense value in a couple of homeschooling
conferences that were held here years ago, and just KNOW that an
unschooling conference would be so wonderful that just one would see me
revitalized enough to want to carry on and unschool my grandchildren, if
my kids wanted that! I'd drive for 2 weeks each way if it meant I could
afford to come.
Just DO it!!
Cally
Sylvia Toyama wrote:
New Zealand! I found immense value in a couple of homeschooling
conferences that were held here years ago, and just KNOW that an
unschooling conference would be so wonderful that just one would see me
revitalized enough to want to carry on and unschool my grandchildren, if
my kids wanted that! I'd drive for 2 weeks each way if it meant I could
afford to come.
Just DO it!!
Cally
Sylvia Toyama wrote:
>
> I'd love to come to this year's conference, but the prospect of
> driving two days with the kids is beyond daunting.
julie w
Sylvia Toyama wrote:
There is SO much.
Zoo, Art Museum, Arch (and the museum under), Science Center, Laumeier
Sculpture Park, The Brewery, Ted Drew's, Shaw's Garden, The Cathedral,
Magic House, Cahokia Mounds, Sports (depending its either hockey or
football....I think the Series will be over by then), Transportation
Museum, Grant's Farm...you could drive out to St. Charles and dot he
tour of the 1st State Capitol......
I could go on and on...
Julie W in AR
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> What else is there to in St. Louis?OMG.
There is SO much.
Zoo, Art Museum, Arch (and the museum under), Science Center, Laumeier
Sculpture Park, The Brewery, Ted Drew's, Shaw's Garden, The Cathedral,
Magic House, Cahokia Mounds, Sports (depending its either hockey or
football....I think the Series will be over by then), Transportation
Museum, Grant's Farm...you could drive out to St. Charles and dot he
tour of the 1st State Capitol......
I could go on and on...
Julie W in AR
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kids and I still remember that trip. We went up in the arch (no way
would I do that now) and saw a Cards game. They happened to be
playing the Reds when we were there which was our "home" team. When
I mentioned to the boys the possibility of going to the conference,
their first ? "Can you really go up in the arch?" Those are the
highlights for me, I'm sure there are many other things (I remember
a park along the river)but to tell you the truth, I don't know that
I've ever been to any decent size city where I couldn't find
something that was fun.
Judy
> In a message dated 2/15/2005 10:52:17 AM Eastern StandardTime, "Sylvia Toyama" <sylgt04@y...> writes:
>do!
>> What do you MEAN "in St Louis, no less"????? COOL city! LOTS to
>I just have to say my parents took my brother and I to St Louis as
kids and I still remember that trip. We went up in the arch (no way
would I do that now) and saw a Cards game. They happened to be
playing the Reds when we were there which was our "home" team. When
I mentioned to the boys the possibility of going to the conference,
their first ? "Can you really go up in the arch?" Those are the
highlights for me, I'm sure there are many other things (I remember
a park along the river)but to tell you the truth, I don't know that
I've ever been to any decent size city where I couldn't find
something that was fun.
Judy
Sylvia Toyama
How many hours IS it to drive? I do 12 hours easy in a car---some people wouold make that a three day trip.
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It's a good 11 or 12 hrs to Oklahoma City, given how often we need to stop. In our life before kids, it wwould probably more like 9 hrs, but we find ourselves stopping much more often because of the boys.
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What do you MEAN "in St Louis, no less"????? COOL city! LOTS to do!
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We did St. Louis in '95 -- the arch, etc. -- so I'm not sure what new sightseeing appeal it would hold. Also, even in October St. Louis is way more humid than we like, can be pretty hot and is that tornado season?
You meant to tell me you come to Charlotte NC and don't call me???? <g>
Will is in the Charlotte area -- as is my brother. My sis in Memphis now, so if we're going to drive as far as St. Louis, we may as well go all the way to NC.
I think we'd like to go -- looks like we still have until July to decide. I'd just love for it be closer.
Sylvia
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It's a good 11 or 12 hrs to Oklahoma City, given how often we need to stop. In our life before kids, it wwould probably more like 9 hrs, but we find ourselves stopping much more often because of the boys.
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What do you MEAN "in St Louis, no less"????? COOL city! LOTS to do!
***
We did St. Louis in '95 -- the arch, etc. -- so I'm not sure what new sightseeing appeal it would hold. Also, even in October St. Louis is way more humid than we like, can be pretty hot and is that tornado season?
You meant to tell me you come to Charlotte NC and don't call me???? <g>
Will is in the Charlotte area -- as is my brother. My sis in Memphis now, so if we're going to drive as far as St. Louis, we may as well go all the way to NC.
I think we'd like to go -- looks like we still have until July to decide. I'd just love for it be closer.
Sylvia
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> Sylvia Toyama wrote:Don't forget the History Museum, City Museum (fun fun), Mastodon State
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>> What else is there to in St. Louis?
>
> OMG.
> There is SO much.
> Zoo, Art Museum, Arch (and the museum under), Science Center, Laumeier
> Sculpture Park, The Brewery, Ted Drew's, Shaw's Garden, The Cathedral,
> Magic House, Cahokia Mounds, Sports (depending its either hockey or
> football....I think the Series will be over by then), Transportation
> Museum, Grant's Farm...you could drive out to St. Charles and dot he
> tour of the 1st State Capitol......
> I could go on and on...
> Julie W in AR
>
Park, Imo's pizzeria, Jewel Box, Crown Candy, and I'm sure I'm missing
some.
AND MOST OF THESE THINGS ARE FREE OR FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE!
Faith in St. Louis
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Katy Jennings
"In a few years I'd be willing to help host one right here in ABQ! (Look
out Sandra--you'd have a parade going through your house!!!)
What better time to be here than in October? Of course, we'd need to
schedule it so that people can also be here for the International
Balloon Fiesta either before or after. Jenny"
OOh, Jenny, please host one in NM!!!!
Katy (in Alamogordo)
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out Sandra--you'd have a parade going through your house!!!)
What better time to be here than in October? Of course, we'd need to
schedule it so that people can also be here for the International
Balloon Fiesta either before or after. Jenny"
OOh, Jenny, please host one in NM!!!!
Katy (in Alamogordo)
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There is (or used to be, is it still there?) a McDonald's on a riverboat on
the Mississippi. It was first moored and then docked (severely fastened
somehow) but it was still really cool for people from New Mexico.
Sandra
the Mississippi. It was first moored and then docked (severely fastened
somehow) but it was still really cool for people from New Mexico.
Sandra
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In a message dated 2/15/05 11:36:37 PM, sylgt04@... writes:
<< We did St. Louis in '95 -- the arch, etc. -- so I'm not sure what new
sightseeing appeal it would hold. Also, even in October St. Louis is way more
humid than we like, can be pretty hot and is that tornado season? >>
There's a good air conditioned children's museum.
<< We did St. Louis in '95 -- the arch, etc. -- so I'm not sure what new
sightseeing appeal it would hold. Also, even in October St. Louis is way more
humid than we like, can be pretty hot and is that tornado season? >>
There's a good air conditioned children's museum.
soggyboysmom
>And you can never really exhaust the science center. No, that's not
> In a message dated 2/15/05 11:36:37 PM, sylgt04@y... writes:
>
> We did St. Louis in '95 -- the arch, etc. -- so I'm not sure
> what new
> sightseeing appeal it would hold. Also, even in October St. Louis
> is way more
> humid than we like, can be pretty hot and is that tornado season?
>>
really "peak" tornado season, although they can happen. I lived in
St Louis for a year (and visited a bunch more times too) and October
was one of the nice months - not sticky hot and not drizzly cold.
The Arch is probably the least of the attractions (IMO since I've
been there a bunch of times) - the arboretum, zoo, science center
all are high on my list. For something else, did you "do" Laclede's
Landing? They've renovated the waterfront area into a very cool
artsy area. PLUS your kids are almost 10 years older now - that
opens up whole new areas of interest and depths of exploration - I
don't plan on a lot of "touring" type stuff with DS when we're out
there but a teen might really get into browsing along some of the
artsy/craftsy shops on the waterfront.
Sylvia Toyama
I thought about the possibility of a conference using the Old Town Sheraton,
but I think it's just too small a hotel. It's the only hotel I know of that's within walking distance of really cool stuff, though. Maybe a mini-conference, but how would we keep it small enough for the hotel? That I don't know.
****
I think there are a few other newer hotels downtown -- the ugly yellow one recently written about in the journal (like the Sheraton isn't an ugly yellow <g>) comes to mind. You're right that it should be within walking distance of Old Town and the museums. By next year, the revamped Tingley Beach area with the zoo and aquarium connected by train would also be nearby.
It would have to be some time other than September or October, with State Fair and Balloon Fiesta filling town. Later October is just as pretty weather-wise most years.
I wasn't specifically wanting one in Albq, just something less than a two-day drive. Maybe Denver or Phoenix/Tucson? San Diego in '07 sounds good, but I thought someone had talked about '07 being in Columbus, OH.
I think we've pretty much decided to make it to St Louis -- just need to get those vacation requests in.
Sylvia
Any hotel project anytime around balloon fiesta would be bad. Hotels fill
up. Off season (away from state fair or balloons or summer) should be cheaper,
I think.
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but I think it's just too small a hotel. It's the only hotel I know of that's within walking distance of really cool stuff, though. Maybe a mini-conference, but how would we keep it small enough for the hotel? That I don't know.
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I think there are a few other newer hotels downtown -- the ugly yellow one recently written about in the journal (like the Sheraton isn't an ugly yellow <g>) comes to mind. You're right that it should be within walking distance of Old Town and the museums. By next year, the revamped Tingley Beach area with the zoo and aquarium connected by train would also be nearby.
It would have to be some time other than September or October, with State Fair and Balloon Fiesta filling town. Later October is just as pretty weather-wise most years.
I wasn't specifically wanting one in Albq, just something less than a two-day drive. Maybe Denver or Phoenix/Tucson? San Diego in '07 sounds good, but I thought someone had talked about '07 being in Columbus, OH.
I think we've pretty much decided to make it to St Louis -- just need to get those vacation requests in.
Sylvia
Any hotel project anytime around balloon fiesta would be bad. Hotels fill
up. Off season (away from state fair or balloons or summer) should be cheaper,
I think.
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julie w
Sylvia Toyama wrote:
that's for summer. I lived there pretty much my whole life until I was
30 and I did not know how good I had it until I left. I had never lived
in a place where it was 75 degrees on Valentines day...guess I like the
south but I'd rather have a real winter now and then. I cannot remember
fall being a time of tornados like it is here in Arkansas....
I know you are disappointed with the drive, but I have to say it sure
is nice that a conference is less than a days drive from me. Normally
they are at either end of the country.
Julie W in AR
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>October can be a beautiful month in St. Louis and not humid at all,
> We did St. Louis in '95 -- the arch, etc. -- so I'm not sure what new
> sightseeing appeal it would hold. Also, even in October St. Louis is
> way more humid than we like, can be pretty hot and is that tornado
> season?
that's for summer. I lived there pretty much my whole life until I was
30 and I did not know how good I had it until I left. I had never lived
in a place where it was 75 degrees on Valentines day...guess I like the
south but I'd rather have a real winter now and then. I cannot remember
fall being a time of tornados like it is here in Arkansas....
I know you are disappointed with the drive, but I have to say it sure
is nice that a conference is less than a days drive from me. Normally
they are at either end of the country.
Julie W in AR
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Sandra Dodd
> OOh, Jenny, please host one in NM!!!!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LiveandLearnConference/
> Katy (in Alamogordo)
There's the list to join to discuss the Live & Learn Conference, but
even there, discussions of way-future possibilities is probably off
topic. <G>
The next one is in October in St. Louis.
After that, Florida.
Sandra