Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] truth, lies and authority [was High School Experi...
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In a message dated 1/31/2005 4:14:10 PM Central Standard Time,
panda@... writes:
No, I don't want to lie about it. I think I just need to be more
creative with it! Plus, that wouldn't be a good thing for my kids to
see.
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You live in Missouri? You're making it way harder than it is:
5. A parent who is home schooling a child must maintain the following
records:
a. A plan book, diary, daily log, or other written record indicating the
subjects taught and the activities engaged in with the student.
b. A portfolio containing samples of the student's academic work.
c. A record of evaluation of the student's academic progress.
d. Other written, or credible evidence equivalent to a, b, and c.
Don't keep a log. Keep a "written record". Jot a few notes. It's not a
tape recording of everything he said or did. It's the highlights, not 1000
hours. And the law says you must "offer" 1000 hours. It doesn't mean you have
to sit down with him for 1000 hours NOR does it mean you have to LOG 1000
hours. A thousand hours of his life is a 1000 hours of you offering freedom to
learn *in the basics* and in many, many advanced things.
And the other thing is, you don't even have to REGISTER!
7. The law is permissive in the area of registering. The statute says the
parent may notify the superintendent of schools or the recorder of county deeds
in the county where the parents reside. This is to be done before September
1 annually. However, the law says may, and it is not mandatory.
No one's going to come ask for your log books if you're not even registered.
You really should unsubscribe from HSLDA's stuff. It's fear-mongering at
its finest.
Karen
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panda@... writes:
No, I don't want to lie about it. I think I just need to be more
creative with it! Plus, that wouldn't be a good thing for my kids to
see.
~~~
You live in Missouri? You're making it way harder than it is:
5. A parent who is home schooling a child must maintain the following
records:
a. A plan book, diary, daily log, or other written record indicating the
subjects taught and the activities engaged in with the student.
b. A portfolio containing samples of the student's academic work.
c. A record of evaluation of the student's academic progress.
d. Other written, or credible evidence equivalent to a, b, and c.
Don't keep a log. Keep a "written record". Jot a few notes. It's not a
tape recording of everything he said or did. It's the highlights, not 1000
hours. And the law says you must "offer" 1000 hours. It doesn't mean you have
to sit down with him for 1000 hours NOR does it mean you have to LOG 1000
hours. A thousand hours of his life is a 1000 hours of you offering freedom to
learn *in the basics* and in many, many advanced things.
And the other thing is, you don't even have to REGISTER!
7. The law is permissive in the area of registering. The statute says the
parent may notify the superintendent of schools or the recorder of county deeds
in the county where the parents reside. This is to be done before September
1 annually. However, the law says may, and it is not mandatory.
No one's going to come ask for your log books if you're not even registered.
You really should unsubscribe from HSLDA's stuff. It's fear-mongering at
its finest.
Karen
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Faith Pickell
On Monday, January 31, 2005, at 04:57 PM, tuckervill2@... wrote:
didn't have their 1000 hours for the year. Most people I know do keep
track of their hours. Plus, the law says to offer 600 hours in the
basics with 400 being at home. So if they didn't want hours logged,
then I don't see why they would say that. Unfortunately it's not very
black and white.
trouble.
>I'm sure I am making it harder on myself than I need to.
> *****You live in Missouri? You're making it way harder than it is:
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>There have been cases where people had to go to court because they
> ******Don't keep a log. Keep a "written record". Jot a few notes.
> It's not a
> tape recording of everything he said or did. It's the highlights,
> not 1000
> hours. And the law says you must "offer" 1000 hours. It doesn't
> mean you have
> to sit down with him for 1000 hours NOR does it mean you have to LOG
> 1000
> hours. A thousand hours of his life is a 1000 hours of you offering
> freedom to
> learn *in the basics* and in many, many advanced things.
didn't have their 1000 hours for the year. Most people I know do keep
track of their hours. Plus, the law says to offer 600 hours in the
basics with 400 being at home. So if they didn't want hours logged,
then I don't see why they would say that. Unfortunately it's not very
black and white.
> ****And the other thing is, you don't even have to REGISTER!Oh, we definitely don't register. That would be like asking for
> No one's going to come ask for your log books if you're not even
> registered.
>
trouble.
> Faith
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Pam Sorooshian
On Jan 31, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Faith Pickell wrote:
They had to go to court for some OTHER reason and were asked for their
log. I'm sure that is the case. There is no way anybody KNOWS if you're
keeping your log or not unless they take you to court and the court
asks for it.
Are you getting your info from HSLDA? Please find secular
homeschoolers in your area and find out the truth.
-pam
> There have been cases where people had to go to court because theyNo no no - that's not how it happened.
> didn't have their 1000 hours for the year.
They had to go to court for some OTHER reason and were asked for their
log. I'm sure that is the case. There is no way anybody KNOWS if you're
keeping your log or not unless they take you to court and the court
asks for it.
Are you getting your info from HSLDA? Please find secular
homeschoolers in your area and find out the truth.
-pam
> Most people I know do keep
> track of their hours. Plus, the law says to offer 600 hours in the
> basics with 400 being at home. So if they didn't want hours logged,
> then I don't see why they would say that. Unfortunately it's not very
> black and white.
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In a message dated 1/31/2005 6:47:25 PM Central Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
I wouldn't do it at all, personally.
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Neither would I, nor do I.
I have homeschooled underground in 2 much stricter states than Missouri, and
I was never ever in fear of being turned in or caught up with. (I'm no
longer underground.)
I can't imagine why anyone would keep records if they didn't even have to
register.
Karen
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
I wouldn't do it at all, personally.
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Neither would I, nor do I.
I have homeschooled underground in 2 much stricter states than Missouri, and
I was never ever in fear of being turned in or caught up with. (I'm no
longer underground.)
I can't imagine why anyone would keep records if they didn't even have to
register.
Karen
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