JoyErin

> There is a different feel in the South, yes. It's definitely more
> title and class oriented, but treating children as "lesser beings"
> seems rampant in our country.

What I seem to have seen is that any disrespect of children, woman or minorities
is more open for whatever reasons in the south compared to the north
(grown up in the NE, lived single & dating in the south w/the military
and now in Mass.-married, 2 dh).

In RI and in kindergarden or first grade, about 30 years ago now, I
was threatened with being hit w/ a belt by the principal for saying
something embarrasing & probably hurtful to an elderly teacher's
helper (I think that's what she was). To not be hit I needed to say I
was sorry and show her the proper respect from that day forward. This
is one of my only memories of school until second grade. I don't
remember anyone in 'public' school actually being hit. By high school
there was no threats of corporal punishment for me but my dh, one year
older than myself, having moved to Florida near Pensacola (Fort
Walton-near an AF base) from overseas suddenly had the threats of "the
paddle" if he didn't stay inline. Once high school was over for him,
he knew people who had been paddled in school.

Recently on the phone a relative in Florida, originally from Kentucky,
jokingly said to me "I hope you're keeping the kids inline with their
needed spankings". I don't think they really expected an answer or
even thought that we do that (I don't know) but I was so surprised to
hear such a bad joke.

Joy

Johanna San Inocencio

The thing is if your kids are in a public school in Tennessee, the
school has the legal authority to physically discipline your child
unless you sign a statement that you do not allow it. Some school
systems really don't enforce it but the county I live in does. I was so
grateful to not have to deal with them anymore.

Johanna
" A man is as free as he chooses to make himself, never an atom freer."
The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald



JoyErin wrote:

> > There is a different feel in the South, yes. It's definitely more
> > title and class oriented, but treating children as "lesser beings"
> > seems rampant in our country.
>
> What I seem to have seen is that any disrespect of children, woman or
> minorities
> is more open for whatever reasons in the south compared to the north
> (grown up in the NE, lived single & dating in the south w/the military
> and now in Mass.-married, 2 dh).
>
> In RI and in kindergarden or first grade, about 30 years ago now, I
> was threatened with being hit w/ a belt by the principal for saying
> something embarrasing & probably hurtful to an elderly teacher's
> helper (I think that's what she was). To not be hit I needed to say I
> was sorry and show her the proper respect from that day forward. This
> is one of my only memories of school until second grade. I don't
> remember anyone in 'public' school actually being hit. By high school
> there was no threats of corporal punishment for me but my dh, one year
> older than myself, having moved to Florida near Pensacola (Fort
> Walton-near an AF base) from overseas suddenly had the threats of "the
> paddle" if he didn't stay inline. Once high school was over for him,
> he knew people who had been paddled in school.
>
> Recently on the phone a relative in Florida, originally from Kentucky,
> jokingly said to me "I hope you're keeping the kids inline with their
> needed spankings". I don't think they really expected an answer or
> even thought that we do that (I don't know) but I was so surprised to
> hear such a bad joke.
>
> Joy
>
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In a message dated 1/29/2005 3:59:56 AM Central Standard Time,
joyerin@... writes:

By high school
there was no threats of corporal punishment for me but my dh, one year
older than myself, having moved to Florida near Pensacola (Fort
Walton-near an AF base) from overseas suddenly had the threats of "the
paddle" if he didn't stay inline. Once high school was over for him,
he knew people who had been paddled in school.



~~~

My first introduction to public school in Arkansas was a paddling, for
chewing gum and then not spitting it out when I was told. First day. The
principal called me in from the playground because he saw me from his window.

I wasn't a stranger to spanking, although I hadn't been spanked since I was
really, really little. I WAS a stranger to having it done to me BY a
stranger, and at SCHOOL. There was no corporal punishment in my school outside of
Chicago. But my daddy was from Arkansas, and he grew up with the principal of
the school, and it was just kind of agreed that this was how it was done
down here.

Thankfully, I was able to opt my own kids out of "licks" when they went to
school.

Karen


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