Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 637
Ann Bagala
Amen, Billy!!!
Ann Bagala
Billy wrote:Okay, I told myself I was going to stay out of this one, but . . . I have to agree with someone else who made a comment about some of the attitudes seeming inappropriate for an "unschooling" list. I thought unschoolers disliked the artificial environment of schoolish learning where it is important to learn a bunch of facts because they will be on a test and if you don't learn them you will have the very artificial consequence of performing poorly on the test. Does anyone else see the similarity between saying that bad actions have bad consequences and I will teach you that by imposing the artificial consequence of spanking you when you do what I consider to be a bad action? That attitude in school teaches many unintended lessons. Learning isn't important, getting a good grade on the test is. Knowing about a subject isn't as important as knowing what your teacher thinks is important. Since it is important to get good grades, cheating may become an acceptable option. Cheating is only possible for getting grades, not for learning. Notice that if learning is important, there is also no reason to cheat. Spanking also teaches many unintended lessons. The biggest person gets to make the rules. It is okay to hurt someone if you don't like what they are doing. Might makes right. Don't get caught. Lying may become an acceptable option if you are trying to avoid physical punishment. There are lots of studies to show that positive reinforcement is much more effective than negative reinforcement. Spanking is never necessary to teach or correct. There are lots of options and the best one is to avoid the problem to begin with. The best dog trainers will tell you that instead of swatting a dog on the nose with a newspaper because he had an accident in the house, you should take him outside after every meal and at regular intervals between meals so he doesn't have the chance of having an accident in the house. Frankly, I have always been horrified by the thought of a parent who can "calmly, and lovingly" spank their child. I have more sympathy with a parent who momentarily "loses" it but can later apologize and admit that they acted in anger. Okay, where did I put my flame-proof suit. There it is. Give me a second to get it zipped. I'm now ready to push the send button and stand back from the flames.