nellebelle

It is always a struggle for me to get out thank you notes. After the girl's birthdays, I typically use the computer to design a thank you using photos from the party. I try to involve them in choosing the picture and a short message for the cards. Sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get them just to sign each card.

Lisa's BD is right before Christmas, so she has twice as many to write all at once. Several times since Christmas, I've suggested that we get started on thank you notes and they haven't shown any interest.

How do other families handle this issue? I think that writing a thank you note for a gift is important but it seems tacky for me to write them for other family members. Where do I find the balance between forcing them to do this and doing it all myself?

Mary Ellen

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It is always a struggle for me to get out thank you notes. After the girl's birthdays, I typically use the computer to design a thank you using photos from the party. I try to involve them in choosing the picture and a short message for the cards. Sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get them just to sign each card.
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I used to write the notes for my daughter with printing that could have been her own--and many thought it was. If you think it's important to write thank you's, you could do them on the computer and have the kids sign them. Here's something way out there, but it might work for them... you could have their signatures made into rubber stamps (you can do this at an office supply store or at a Things Remembered store), if they have lots of thank yous to send frequently. They might not have a problem with stamping their name on twenty cards.

Also, you could make the making of the thank yous more fun with all kinds of stamps, ribbons, etc. Maybe that would help their interest level.

Or maybe they'd like to send a small token back to the person, like a refrigerator magnet of the party, with a simple "Thank you!" on it.

Nichole

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Dana Matt

We bought card making kits at Target on clearance, in
the Christmas card section--it comes with cards
(blank), lots of stickers, ribbons, tissue papers,
etc, and we're using it for Thank-you cards instead,
along with a bunch of glitter and colored sharpies--a
totally fun day!
Dana


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On Dec 31, 2004, at 10:32 AM, nellebelle wrote:

> How do other families handle this issue? I think that writing a thank
> you note for a gift is important but it seems tacky for me to write
> them for other family members. Where do I find the balance between
> forcing them to do this and doing it all myself?

No thank you notes for gifts given in person - you say thank you to the
person when they give it to you.
My sister makes the kids write thank you notes for gifts I handed to
them myself - I think that is weird and I HATE to think of her forcing
her 10 yo son to sit and write, "Dear Aunt Pam,.....".

Phone calls to those who mail gifts. When the gift is received I'll get
the person on the phone and say, "Rosie wants to thank you for the
gift." I put Rosie on the phone and she says, "Thank you for the gift."
<G>

-pam

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A happy photo of the kid with the item, or a kid-signature and side-art on a
computer-printed message have been some of our solutions here.

Sandra


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In a message dated 12/31/2004 1:32:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
nellebelle@... writes:

How do other families handle this issue? I think that writing a thank you
note for a gift is important but it seems tacky for me to write them for other
family members. Where do I find the balance between forcing them to do
this and doing it all myself?<<<

Gifts given in person get an oral thank you. Mailed gifts (usually money)
get a phone call or a thank you note---stating what they spent (or will spend)
it on.

When Cameron went Australia, we actually sent out requests for money to help
finance the trip (it was a Student Ambassadorship with People to People).
Cameron had a BUNCH of notes to write. We made them with stickers of kangaroos
and boomerangs, and inside I made straight pencil lines and actually wrote
the thank you's with pencil. He came back and wrote over them with a nice pen.
We then erased the pencil marks and lines.

I figured this way he would, by osmosis <g>, learn how and what to write.
It's his handwriting----just over mine.

It seemed the least painful way to do it. In some, we included a darling
photo of him with a koala.

I send out a good many thank you's, so they see me do it (without
complaining). Ben sends his share of business thank you's too, so he's modeling it as
well. I just make it as easy as possible, so that it doesn't seem painful and
pointless. I also point out when someone sends me---or them---a heartfelt
thank you note, especially the pretty, unique ones!

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Robyn Coburn

<<<<How do other families handle this issue? I think that writing a thank
you note for a gift is important but it seems tacky for me to write them for
other family members. Where do I find the balance between forcing them to
do this and doing it all myself?>>>>

With Jayn's last birthday (5) we did two different kinds of cards.

For the adults, older children, and distant family who had sent gifts by
mail, Jayn drew a picture related to the theme of the party which I scanned
and turned into multiple copies of a notecard using card creating computer
graphics software. This year it was a beautiful mermaid. I then did the
text, taking the opportunity to hand write a short letter to the distant
relatives. I invited Jayn to write her name on the end, an activity she
usually enjoys, and she did do so on most of them.

For the core group of Jayn's friends, young (mostly) girls she sees
regularly, she had the idea to make individual cards. I had every intention
of using the scanned picture card, but no - Jayn wanted to draw a portrait
of each of these friends and write in each one. So there were about eight
cards to be done.

I prepared folded paper and over several weeks, usually the night before
dance class when we would be seeing the girls, Jayn would do one or two of
these cards. She took a lot of care with the pictures, and wrote variations
of "Thank You {Name} Jayn". I then put them into envelopes and added the
name to the front.

The advantage to this approach is that with the local girls, I was able to
just let the Moms know in person that a card was on its way, so no-one felt
slighted. So many of Jayn's friends have birthdays within a month, and we
were all joking with each other that the thank yous back and forth would
arrive around Christmas. Meanwhile people who might be more concerned with
the etiquette of receiving timely thanks still receive something with Jayn's
art work attached.

We will do something similar I would expect with the Christmas gifts.

Robyn L. Coburn

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steffieb28

I am not sure why you think this is something that they should do. I have never had my kids send thank you cards for what they get as gifts. They always ofcourse verbally say thank you to each of the people. I wouldnt force them to do it, after all it is their right to decline if they want. Have you asked them if this is something they want to do? And could you enlighten me on why you feel it is so important? I've always been curious as to why people make such a big deal out of little pieces of paper that say thank you....Is this something that has been passed down by your mother? Do you have friends and family who would be say something if they didnt get a thank you note?

nellebelle <nellebelle@...> wrote:It is always a struggle for me to get out thank you notes. After the girl's birthdays, I typically use the computer to design a thank you using photos from the party. I try to involve them in choosing the picture and a short message for the cards. Sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get them just to sign each card.

Lisa's BD is right before Christmas, so she has twice as many to write all at once. Several times since Christmas, I've suggested that we get started on thank you notes and they haven't shown any interest.

How do other families handle this issue? I think that writing a thank you note for a gift is important but it seems tacky for me to write them for other family members. Where do I find the balance between forcing them to do this and doing it all myself?

Mary Ellen

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In a message dated 1/1/2005 3:01:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
steffieb28@... writes:

I am not sure why you think this is something that they should do. I have
never had my kids send thank you cards for what they get as gifts. They always
ofcourse verbally say thank you to each of the people. I wouldnt force them
to do it, after all it is their right to decline if they want. Have you asked
them if this is something they want to do?<<<<<

They see it modeled, and it makes the gift-giver feel good to be so
acknowledged. It's not forced, but it is suggested and encouraged. It's seen as a
*good* thing, not a chore to be avoided.

>>>>> And could you enlighten me on why you feel it is so important?<<<<

It makes people feel good to get a well-written thank you. It makes them
feel appreciated.

>>>>>I've always been curious as to why people make such a big deal out of
little pieces of paper that say thank you.<<<<

Have you ever received one? A good one that makes you feel special---all the
way down to your toes?

>>>>.Is this something that has been passed down by your mother?<<<<

Do you say thank you and please and excuse me? Do you say that you had a
good time and thank you for inviting me? Was that passed down by your mother?
Yes, I model thank you note writing because it's a nice thing to do for someone
who did something nice for me.


>>> Do you have friends and family who would be say something if they didnt
get a thank you note? <<<<

Probably. But I don't write them! <g> It's not done out of guilt or
blackmail. It's done out of respect for the giver and in appreciation of a gift.

I write business thank you's all the time. It can make a big difference as
to whether someone would like to deal with me in the future. They remember it.

I write one after I stay at someone's house for the night as a guest.

I write them when I I receive a mailed invitation to a party (verbal or
e-vites receive their thank you's respectively).

It's considered polite and appreciative. That's all.

~Kelly





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steffieb28

Ok I understand now. Thanks for enlightening me..:-) Well I suppose then I would just explain to my children that this is something that needs to be done. I dont guess I would really give them a choice about it, and I would just sit with them and give them ideas of what to say. Maybe they just dont know what to say or how to say it??? Just pondering. Maybe I will take this up. Oh and no I havent ever recieved one. Its just not a priority in my neck of the woods I guess....maybe I will start a new trend (well not new but new to me) We say thankyou just not in written notes. So are you suppose to do it with every gift you recieve? If so I have a lot of writting to do..:-)

kbcdlovejo@... wrote:In a message dated 1/1/2005 3:01:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
steffieb28@... writes:

I am not sure why you think this is something that they should do. I have
never had my kids send thank you cards for what they get as gifts. They always
ofcourse verbally say thank you to each of the people. I wouldnt force them
to do it, after all it is their right to decline if they want. Have you asked
them if this is something they want to do?<<<<<

They see it modeled, and it makes the gift-giver feel good to be so
acknowledged. It's not forced, but it is suggested and encouraged. It's seen as a
*good* thing, not a chore to be avoided.

>>>>> And could you enlighten me on why you feel it is so important?<<<<

It makes people feel good to get a well-written thank you. It makes them
feel appreciated.

>>>>>I've always been curious as to why people make such a big deal out of
little pieces of paper that say thank you.<<<<

Have you ever received one? A good one that makes you feel special---all the
way down to your toes?

>>>>.Is this something that has been passed down by your mother?<<<<

Do you say thank you and please and excuse me? Do you say that you had a
good time and thank you for inviting me? Was that passed down by your mother?
Yes, I model thank you note writing because it's a nice thing to do for someone
who did something nice for me.


>>> Do you have friends and family who would be say something if they didnt
get a thank you note? <<<<

Probably. But I don't write them! <g> It's not done out of guilt or
blackmail. It's done out of respect for the giver and in appreciation of a gift.

I write business thank you's all the time. It can make a big difference as
to whether someone would like to deal with me in the future. They remember it.

I write one after I stay at someone's house for the night as a guest.

I write them when I I receive a mailed invitation to a party (verbal or
e-vites receive their thank you's respectively).

It's considered polite and appreciative. That's all.

~Kelly





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>Have you ever received one? A good one that makes you feel
special---all the
>way down to your toes?

nope, i haven't...but i *have* dealt with a lot of guilt and pressure and
forcing from my mom as a child to write them.

in our house, sometimes i write them, but mostly i don't. i'll usually
thank someone when i receive something right then and there...and i tend
to do this for/in place of my kids too since they're very shy and have a
hard time speaking up to certain people even if they're sincerely very
grateful.

i might initiate the idea that if they wanted to draw a picture or write
a note to the person to say thank you, i'd help them and send it and
share how much they'd love to get a nice something in the mail and know
how perfect the gift was, etc. they might get excited, they might roll
their eyes. i pick up the slack because i appreciate the giver's
kindness and generosity and the love in their intent.

that having been said, i also don't think it's a necessary thing to write
a formal thank you every time i/they receive something from someone. i
don't care if they ever write one actually. i want it to come out of
their genuine appreciation, not some feigned formality. it reminds me
very much of being forced to say *sorry* as a child when i wasn't
sorry...having to say *thank you* in any form when i'm not thankful or
just the general idea that a written sort of thanks being expected every
time someone decides to give something feels off to me.

maybe i just need to receive a wonderful, heartfelt thank you
note...maybe that would change my perspective? ;)

>Do you say thank you and please and excuse me?

sometimes, sometimes not...depends on the situation.

>Do you say that you had a good time and thank you for inviting me? Was
that >passed down by your mother?

most everything i do comes from existing in the opposite of my mother as
her life is ruled by guilt and fear and *have to's* and *should's* and
*what if's* and i don't like that. admittedly, i'm at the opposite
extreme right now and am working on finding a happy medium middle ground.
:) my childhood was so wrapped up in my mother's blanket of
insanity...*if you don't say thank you, you're ungrateful and bad and
don't deserve nice things* kind of crap when i was just shy around people
i saw infrequently.

when i give things, i give them with no strings attached because i think
the gift will be loved...i never expect some flowery expression of
gratitude (not that it would annoy me, i just don't expect it.) heck,
sometimes the gift is off and i can tell when they open it...what good
would it do to get a thank you about how much they love the so & so when
it's useless to them? it feels like a waste of paper...a waste of
sentiment... but again, there's nothing wrong with being grateful that
someone thought of you and took time out of their life to try and honor
you with a gift (even if they were off the mark.) sorry for talking in a
circle and kind of covering all ground... :) i guess i just don't see
making it a formality on paper as better or more concrete than smiling
and saying, *i love it, thanks!*


>I write business thank you's all the time. It can make a big difference
as
>to whether someone would like to deal with me in the future. They
remember >it.

that makes sense in the business world for sure...you want to make and
keep the connections. but the connections between friends and family are
strong and based on continuous getting together and love and other joyous
things that don't exist in a typical business relationship. written
thank you notes in that world are a helpful tool to making money in
addition to marking appreciation.

>I write one after I stay at someone's house for the night as a guest.

that's very sweet. i guess for me it sounds weird just because we don't
do things like that! anytime we stay at a friend's house, it's no big
deal...they don't go to any huge lengths to accommodate us and we
reciprocate all the time by having them stay with us. it would seem
weird to me to make a big deal about it and write a letter. our
appreciation shines through in our hugs and kisses and smiles...nothing
extra needed.

>I write them when I I receive a mailed invitation to a party (verbal or

>e-vites receive their thank you's respectively).

i just hug people when we get there and when we leave and i might call
the next day or sometime during the week after to repeat about the nice
time we had. feels like enough to me. :)

>It's considered polite and appreciative. That's all.

do you think it's considered impolite and unappreciative to not
give/receive a written thank you...or is it just icing on the cake? just
curious...i'm not trying to be argumentative, i promise. :)

lisa

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 3:22:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ecotopian@... writes:

do you think it's considered impolite and unappreciative to not
give/receive a written thank you...or is it just icing on the cake? just
curious...i'm not trying to be argumentative, i promise. :)<<<

I'll accept any thank you graciously.

I don't like forced ones though----like those "sorry's" you mentioned. I'm
still gracious. <g>

I think it depends on the cultural differences too. I'm from the South. It's
probably a bit more "expected" down here----we're kind of old-fashioned
compared to the rest of the country! <G>

It's certainly icing on the cake.

But last year I received, not only a lovely thank you note, but a bouquet of
flowers from Kathryn for my help & hand-holding with the conference. I
didn't expect it, and it was truly appreciated. Gilding the lily, maybe! <g> But I
felt special and appreciated, yes.

I think it's nice to put out a little more effort when someone has gone to
trouble for you. Hosting someone in your home IS putting you out----even IF
it's fun or reciprocated or easy. Knowing my interests and sending me something
extra-special *just* for me DESERVES a special thank you in my opinion. (Not
that everyone should so this---I just expect it from myself.)

I like showing my appreciation---and from the responses I've received, it's
obviously NOT done every day by others AND it's greatly appreciated. I
hand-make my cards, too, so there's obviously been some effort put into my thank
you, and people notice.

Do something nice for me---I'll send you one! <G>

~Kelly






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In a message dated 1/2/2005 3:22:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ecotopian@... writes:

>Have you ever received one? A good one that makes you feel
special---all the
>way down to your toes?

nope, i haven't...but i *have* dealt with a lot of guilt and pressure and
forcing from my mom as a child to write them. <<<<

Yeah. I got a lot of that as a child. My mother forced thank you's on me and
my brother. What I learned, though, was how *much* they ARE appreciated and
how to write a really good one.

It took just over a year to write all my wedding thank you notes (400 people
at the wedding! :-P~~~~*), but each one was sincere and chatty. I made Ben
write the notes to *his* guests----and he'd never written one before. He got
pretty damned good at it! <G> Now he's better at writing them than I am! <g>

My mother asked me every week whether I'd finished my wedding notes. Damn
her. It wasn't that I didn't *want* to. But her insistence made me avoid
it----so I get what you're saying. But if you change the way *you* look at it, you
might find the joy in it! <G>

~Kelly






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In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:22:34 PM Central Standard Time,
ecotopian@... writes:

>Have you ever received one? A good one that makes you feel
special---all the
>way down to your toes?

nope, i haven't...but i *have* dealt with a lot of guilt and pressure and
forcing from my mom as a child to write them.



~~~
There is nothing as satisfying as writing a thank you note from the bottom
of your heart. It's so organic and it makes YOU feel better, knowing that the
other person is going to feel better, too.

It's easier to express things in writing, for me. I can say "thank you" and
I do all the time, but if you get a note from me, you will remember it,
because it's heartfelt.

Karen



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