Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Digest Number 5033
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Back in August of this year our local list owner tried to lump us all as
homeschoolers. As a matter a fact she emailed me and asked what I thought about
just using the term homeschoolers instead of UNschooling. I couldn't believe
it. I've been silenced from this list before because they are mostly
homeschoolers in the traditional sense. She had forwarded me Helen's thoughts and
position on it. I wrote back after being bitter for several days and told her
that I would NOT like to be lumped together. That said I was slightly annoyed
when she posted stating that she was one of the voices for our state in some
NHEN discussion or article. Huh?
When traditional homeschooling-HSLDA supporters start saying they are
speaking for me I get a lil annoyed.
I do speak up (and duck) when discussions take place but im not very
supported at all. As a matter a fact our state list has a good 200-300 people and
when I post I get attacked for my thoughts by a select few and NO one else
speaks unless that are attacking me. Well one other unschooler on the list
does/did but that was/is all.
I keep hearing locally that diversity will be respected but still im told
that I say UNschooling,UNschooler too much. HUH?
Laura
_http://www.geocities.com/southernmaineunschoolers/index.html_
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<<This is where you're wrong. He *IS* talking about us! Because they lump
all
of us together as "homeschoolers"---and people like Helen Hegener, who is
ALSO
trying to lump us all together---- and make us all one big happy group.
And again, I'll scream! <g>: I insist that we're NOT homeschoolers to
anyone
that asks. I insist that we're UNschoolers because it matters to me that we
NOT be lumped together with those freaks.
They have a huge lobby, through H$LDA, that is VERY visible and loud. They
spend lots of money and manpower on articles like this one----even though
it's not all peachy-keen and good----because it may inspire MORE freaks to
join
their cause. They don't care how we all look to the outside world if they
can
recruit another freaky family.
It only hurts *US*. Unschoolers aren't visible enough or loud enough (yet!
<G> give me time! <g>) to counter these stupid beliefs. "Normal" people
read
that and say, "See, Thelma! ALL them homeschoolers are just a bunch of
crazy
freaks who want to take over the country and rule the world through the
Bible.
Bunch of freaks!". Hell, *I* say the same things!
As long as all homeschoolers are lumped together, then he IS talking about
us.
~Kelly, do NOT call me a homeschooling mom!
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homeschoolers. As a matter a fact she emailed me and asked what I thought about
just using the term homeschoolers instead of UNschooling. I couldn't believe
it. I've been silenced from this list before because they are mostly
homeschoolers in the traditional sense. She had forwarded me Helen's thoughts and
position on it. I wrote back after being bitter for several days and told her
that I would NOT like to be lumped together. That said I was slightly annoyed
when she posted stating that she was one of the voices for our state in some
NHEN discussion or article. Huh?
When traditional homeschooling-HSLDA supporters start saying they are
speaking for me I get a lil annoyed.
I do speak up (and duck) when discussions take place but im not very
supported at all. As a matter a fact our state list has a good 200-300 people and
when I post I get attacked for my thoughts by a select few and NO one else
speaks unless that are attacking me. Well one other unschooler on the list
does/did but that was/is all.
I keep hearing locally that diversity will be respected but still im told
that I say UNschooling,UNschooler too much. HUH?
Laura
_http://www.geocities.com/southernmaineunschoolers/index.html_
(http://www.geocities.com/southernmaineunschoolers/index.html)
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<<This is where you're wrong. He *IS* talking about us! Because they lump
all
of us together as "homeschoolers"---and people like Helen Hegener, who is
ALSO
trying to lump us all together---- and make us all one big happy group.
And again, I'll scream! <g>: I insist that we're NOT homeschoolers to
anyone
that asks. I insist that we're UNschoolers because it matters to me that we
NOT be lumped together with those freaks.
They have a huge lobby, through H$LDA, that is VERY visible and loud. They
spend lots of money and manpower on articles like this one----even though
it's not all peachy-keen and good----because it may inspire MORE freaks to
join
their cause. They don't care how we all look to the outside world if they
can
recruit another freaky family.
It only hurts *US*. Unschoolers aren't visible enough or loud enough (yet!
<G> give me time! <g>) to counter these stupid beliefs. "Normal" people
read
that and say, "See, Thelma! ALL them homeschoolers are just a bunch of
crazy
freaks who want to take over the country and rule the world through the
Bible.
Bunch of freaks!". Hell, *I* say the same things!
As long as all homeschoolers are lumped together, then he IS talking about
us.
~Kelly, do NOT call me a homeschooling mom!
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Elizabeth Hill
** I keep hearing locally that diversity will be respected but still im
told
that I say UNschooling,UNschooler too much. HUH?**
I'm guessing you must feel like that wild and wanton mom at the park
that lets her kids take their jackets or shoes when they want to. <g>
The other moms sniff and toss their heads and let you know you have
undemined "mom solidarity" and made their lives more difficult.?
Betsy
told
that I say UNschooling,UNschooler too much. HUH?**
I'm guessing you must feel like that wild and wanton mom at the park
that lets her kids take their jackets or shoes when they want to. <g>
The other moms sniff and toss their heads and let you know you have
undemined "mom solidarity" and made their lives more difficult.?
Betsy
Sylvia Toyama
I'm guessing you must feel like that wild and wanton mom at the park that lets her kids take their jackets or shoes when they want to. <g> The other moms sniff and toss their heads and let you know you have undemined "mom solidarity" and made their lives more difficult.?
*****
and it's wonderful to be the wanton Mom who undermines the authority of mean moms! I make a point of being especially 'permissive' when I see a pinched-face Mom saying things like 'slides are for DOWN' to her kids.
Sylvia
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*****
and it's wonderful to be the wanton Mom who undermines the authority of mean moms! I make a point of being especially 'permissive' when I see a pinched-face Mom saying things like 'slides are for DOWN' to her kids.
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MoonStarWolf )O(
LOL! I love it. I see this crap all the time in parks. I let mine be
KIDS! I can not tell you how many times i've seen these moms say that
'slides are for DOWN' gimmee a break.
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<<I'm guessing you must feel like that wild and wanton mom at the park that
lets her kids take their jackets or shoes when they want to. <g> The other
moms sniff and toss their heads and let you know you have undemined "mom
solidarity" and made their lives more difficult.?
*****
and it's wonderful to be the wanton Mom who undermines the authority of mean
moms! I make a point of being especially 'permissive' when I see a
pinched-face Mom saying things like 'slides are for DOWN' to her kids.
Sylvia>>
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KIDS! I can not tell you how many times i've seen these moms say that
'slides are for DOWN' gimmee a break.
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<<I'm guessing you must feel like that wild and wanton mom at the park that
lets her kids take their jackets or shoes when they want to. <g> The other
moms sniff and toss their heads and let you know you have undemined "mom
solidarity" and made their lives more difficult.?
*****
and it's wonderful to be the wanton Mom who undermines the authority of mean
moms! I make a point of being especially 'permissive' when I see a
pinched-face Mom saying things like 'slides are for DOWN' to her kids.
Sylvia>>
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pam sorooshian
On Nov 17, 2004, at 9:10 AM, Sylvia Toyama wrote:
-pam
> I make a point of being especially 'permissive' when I see aMe too. Subversive playground action!! <G>
> pinched-face Mom saying things like 'slides are for DOWN' to her kids.
-pam
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In a message dated 11/18/2004 11:52:44 AM Mountain Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
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Guerilla mothering.
Once a child's been treated like a human, it's harder for him to go back.
So sometimes I do feel a little guilty about giving them a taste of positive
regard if it's going to make them pine for something better, but that's an
ancient philosophical quandry, isn't it? Is no taste of freedom better for the
enslaved? No glimpse of happiness better for the condemned?
Sandra
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
> I make a point of being especially 'permissive' when I see aMe too. Subversive playground action!! <G>
> pinched-face Mom saying things like 'slides are for DOWN' to her kids.
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Guerilla mothering.
Once a child's been treated like a human, it's harder for him to go back.
So sometimes I do feel a little guilty about giving them a taste of positive
regard if it's going to make them pine for something better, but that's an
ancient philosophical quandry, isn't it? Is no taste of freedom better for the
enslaved? No glimpse of happiness better for the condemned?
Sandra
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