FW: How do I make the leap to unschooling and still satisfy the law about accredited schools in California?
Fetteroll
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From: "Maureen Jones" <o_byrnes@...>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:36:17 +0000
To: [email protected]
I am trying to get some info on "unschooling." I am 60 years old and have
a daughter who just turned 8 and would be in 3rd grade in public school.
Because I believe strongly that our world is so different now I believe that
children no longer benefit from the public school's antiquated values and
teaching methods. I believe strongly that we must teach them flexibility or
allow that, encourage love toward others and their environment and survival.
To that end I enrolled her in CAVA this year at the suggestion of another
parent in our small town. I realize we have only replaced the same
curriculum--maybe a little better quality--to be done at home with the same
requirements and testing as in the classroom setting. I am feeling
frustrated as I try to make my daughter sit and do reading, answer
questions, math over and over, etc. I really am an unschooling advocate.
We travel abroad a great deal and her learning comes from example. We cook
together and discuss measurements; she has an incredible vocabulary and
conceptualizes well but she certainly is not reading "at grade level" How
do I make the leap to unschooling and still satisfy the law about accredited
schools in California. Thus far we use the CAVA materials as an outline and
fake it. Any thoughts? Thanks. Maureen Jones, mother of Caitlin.
From: "Maureen Jones" <o_byrnes@...>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:36:17 +0000
To: [email protected]
I am trying to get some info on "unschooling." I am 60 years old and have
a daughter who just turned 8 and would be in 3rd grade in public school.
Because I believe strongly that our world is so different now I believe that
children no longer benefit from the public school's antiquated values and
teaching methods. I believe strongly that we must teach them flexibility or
allow that, encourage love toward others and their environment and survival.
To that end I enrolled her in CAVA this year at the suggestion of another
parent in our small town. I realize we have only replaced the same
curriculum--maybe a little better quality--to be done at home with the same
requirements and testing as in the classroom setting. I am feeling
frustrated as I try to make my daughter sit and do reading, answer
questions, math over and over, etc. I really am an unschooling advocate.
We travel abroad a great deal and her learning comes from example. We cook
together and discuss measurements; she has an incredible vocabulary and
conceptualizes well but she certainly is not reading "at grade level" How
do I make the leap to unschooling and still satisfy the law about accredited
schools in California. Thus far we use the CAVA materials as an outline and
fake it. Any thoughts? Thanks. Maureen Jones, mother of Caitlin.
Rebecca DeLong
I think what you can do, and what most unschoolers in CA do, is to file an R4. It turns your home into a private school, meeting state requirements, without having to awnser to the school board.
~Rebecca
4. Filing a Private School Affidavit (R4 Form) for exemption as a Private School. (E.C. 33190 & 48222)
The least restrictive method for homeschooling is to teach your children without being involved with a school district or any form of government schooling. You can establish your own private school in your home. In California, private school teachers are not required to have teaching credentials. Once you establish your private school you must file a Private School Affidavit with the CA Department of Education between October 1st and 15th annually. As a private school, you are required to maintain certain records (see list below) and must comply with the CA Education Codes that pertain to private schools. Again, Private School Affidavits must be filed annually between October 1st and 15th.
http://www.homefires.com/castyle.html (info above from this site, they have a bunch more info too)
http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/regional/CaliforniaR4.htm
Fetteroll <fetteroll@...> wrote:
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From: "Maureen Jones" <o_byrnes@...>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:36:17 +0000
To: [email protected]
I am trying to get some info on "unschooling." I am 60 years old and have
a daughter who just turned 8 and would be in 3rd grade in public school.
Because I believe strongly that our world is so different now I believe that
children no longer benefit from the public school's antiquated values and
teaching methods. I believe strongly that we must teach them flexibility or
allow that, encourage love toward others and their environment and survival.
To that end I enrolled her in CAVA this year at the suggestion of another
parent in our small town. I realize we have only replaced the same
curriculum--maybe a little better quality--to be done at home with the same
requirements and testing as in the classroom setting. I am feeling
frustrated as I try to make my daughter sit and do reading, answer
questions, math over and over, etc. I really am an unschooling advocate.
We travel abroad a great deal and her learning comes from example. We cook
together and discuss measurements; she has an incredible vocabulary and
conceptualizes well but she certainly is not reading "at grade level" How
do I make the leap to unschooling and still satisfy the law about accredited
schools in California. Thus far we use the CAVA materials as an outline and
fake it. Any thoughts? Thanks. Maureen Jones, mother of Caitlin.
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4. Filing a Private School Affidavit (R4 Form) for exemption as a Private School. (E.C. 33190 & 48222)
The least restrictive method for homeschooling is to teach your children without being involved with a school district or any form of government schooling. You can establish your own private school in your home. In California, private school teachers are not required to have teaching credentials. Once you establish your private school you must file a Private School Affidavit with the CA Department of Education between October 1st and 15th annually. As a private school, you are required to maintain certain records (see list below) and must comply with the CA Education Codes that pertain to private schools. Again, Private School Affidavits must be filed annually between October 1st and 15th.
http://www.homefires.com/castyle.html (info above from this site, they have a bunch more info too)
http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/regional/CaliforniaR4.htm
Fetteroll <fetteroll@...> wrote:
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From: "Maureen Jones" <o_byrnes@...>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:36:17 +0000
To: [email protected]
I am trying to get some info on "unschooling." I am 60 years old and have
a daughter who just turned 8 and would be in 3rd grade in public school.
Because I believe strongly that our world is so different now I believe that
children no longer benefit from the public school's antiquated values and
teaching methods. I believe strongly that we must teach them flexibility or
allow that, encourage love toward others and their environment and survival.
To that end I enrolled her in CAVA this year at the suggestion of another
parent in our small town. I realize we have only replaced the same
curriculum--maybe a little better quality--to be done at home with the same
requirements and testing as in the classroom setting. I am feeling
frustrated as I try to make my daughter sit and do reading, answer
questions, math over and over, etc. I really am an unschooling advocate.
We travel abroad a great deal and her learning comes from example. We cook
together and discuss measurements; she has an incredible vocabulary and
conceptualizes well but she certainly is not reading "at grade level" How
do I make the leap to unschooling and still satisfy the law about accredited
schools in California. Thus far we use the CAVA materials as an outline and
fake it. Any thoughts? Thanks. Maureen Jones, mother of Caitlin.
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Robyn Coburn
<<<<< I am trying to get some info on "unschooling." I am 60 years old and
have
a daughter who just turned 8 and would be in 3rd grade in public school.
Because I believe strongly that our world is so different now I believe that
children no longer benefit from the public school's antiquated values and
teaching methods. I believe strongly that we must teach them flexibility or
allow that, encourage love toward others and their environment and survival.
To that end I enrolled her in CAVA this year at the suggestion of another
parent in our small town. I realize we have only replaced the same
curriculum--maybe a little better quality--to be done at home with the same
requirements and testing as in the classroom setting. I am feeling
frustrated as I try to make my daughter sit and do reading, answer
questions, math over and over, etc. I really am an unschooling advocate.
We travel abroad a great deal and her learning comes from example. We cook
together and discuss measurements; she has an incredible vocabulary and
conceptualizes well but she certainly is not reading "at grade level" How
do I make the leap to unschooling and still satisfy the law about accredited
schools in California. Thus far we use the CAVA materials as an outline and
fake it. Any thoughts? Thanks. Maureen Jones, mother of Caitlin. >>>>>
Maureen, Rebecca was right when she gave you the information about the R-4.
As a traveler and Unschooler, I would recommend that option for you as being
the freest also. All the reassuring legal information about the four h/s
options in CA is available at two State wide homeschool organizations'
websites:
The California Homeschool Network
http://www.californiahomeschool.net
And
Home Schoolers of California
www.HSC.org
HSC also has an email list, although it is not about unschooling
specifically.
To find local home schoolers with parkdays and what-not in your area try
www.nhen.org and click on the county contacts link. Where are you in CA?
My local group is Culver-Westchester Homeschool Network - not many
Unschoolers
www.geocities.com/djjhp/CWHNmain.htm
Now as to getting to Unschooling.
The best thing that you can do is toss your curriculum materials into a box,
along with coloring books, games, toys, stuff that Caitlin can pull out on
her own when she is at a loose end and wants something different to do that
day. Treat as just another resource, some of which will be nonsensical. Also
throw in the garbage the "teacher guides" or whatever. Caitlin will find her
own way of utilizing the material, or not, and either outcome is just fine.
She will probably want to de-school, also called decompress, which is a
period of seeming inactivity while the psychic damage from being forced to
engage in activities not of her choosing heals. She may appear unmotivated,
but it won't last, as long as you remain calm and non-judgmental as you seem
to be.
There are a couple of great sources of information:
www.sandradodd.com/unschooling Essays from Sandra and others conveniently
organized into topics of interest - although they are really all connected.
www.unschooling.info/ New wonderful message boards
www.unschooling.com Old wonderful message boards
There is also the yahoo group UnschoolingBasics, a sister to this wonderful
list, aimed specifically at people just beginning the journey to
Unschooling.
Have fun, and welcome to the journey.
Robyn L. Coburn - fellow Californian
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have
a daughter who just turned 8 and would be in 3rd grade in public school.
Because I believe strongly that our world is so different now I believe that
children no longer benefit from the public school's antiquated values and
teaching methods. I believe strongly that we must teach them flexibility or
allow that, encourage love toward others and their environment and survival.
To that end I enrolled her in CAVA this year at the suggestion of another
parent in our small town. I realize we have only replaced the same
curriculum--maybe a little better quality--to be done at home with the same
requirements and testing as in the classroom setting. I am feeling
frustrated as I try to make my daughter sit and do reading, answer
questions, math over and over, etc. I really am an unschooling advocate.
We travel abroad a great deal and her learning comes from example. We cook
together and discuss measurements; she has an incredible vocabulary and
conceptualizes well but she certainly is not reading "at grade level" How
do I make the leap to unschooling and still satisfy the law about accredited
schools in California. Thus far we use the CAVA materials as an outline and
fake it. Any thoughts? Thanks. Maureen Jones, mother of Caitlin. >>>>>
Maureen, Rebecca was right when she gave you the information about the R-4.
As a traveler and Unschooler, I would recommend that option for you as being
the freest also. All the reassuring legal information about the four h/s
options in CA is available at two State wide homeschool organizations'
websites:
The California Homeschool Network
http://www.californiahomeschool.net
And
Home Schoolers of California
www.HSC.org
HSC also has an email list, although it is not about unschooling
specifically.
To find local home schoolers with parkdays and what-not in your area try
www.nhen.org and click on the county contacts link. Where are you in CA?
My local group is Culver-Westchester Homeschool Network - not many
Unschoolers
www.geocities.com/djjhp/CWHNmain.htm
Now as to getting to Unschooling.
The best thing that you can do is toss your curriculum materials into a box,
along with coloring books, games, toys, stuff that Caitlin can pull out on
her own when she is at a loose end and wants something different to do that
day. Treat as just another resource, some of which will be nonsensical. Also
throw in the garbage the "teacher guides" or whatever. Caitlin will find her
own way of utilizing the material, or not, and either outcome is just fine.
She will probably want to de-school, also called decompress, which is a
period of seeming inactivity while the psychic damage from being forced to
engage in activities not of her choosing heals. She may appear unmotivated,
but it won't last, as long as you remain calm and non-judgmental as you seem
to be.
There are a couple of great sources of information:
www.sandradodd.com/unschooling Essays from Sandra and others conveniently
organized into topics of interest - although they are really all connected.
www.unschooling.info/ New wonderful message boards
www.unschooling.com Old wonderful message boards
There is also the yahoo group UnschoolingBasics, a sister to this wonderful
list, aimed specifically at people just beginning the journey to
Unschooling.
Have fun, and welcome to the journey.
Robyn L. Coburn - fellow Californian
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It is not only unschooling, but is unschooling friendly.
I'm a county contact for Orange County and parts of Los Angeles County
and could probably help you with other areas as well.
-pam sorooshian
<www.HSC.org>
To subscribe to the email list send a blank email to:
<CA-Homeschooling-HSC-subscribe @ yahoogroups.com> (close up the spaces
in the email address).
It is not only unschooling, but is unschooling friendly.
I'm a county contact for Orange County and parts of Los Angeles County
and could probably help you with other areas as well.
-pam sorooshian
On Oct 20, 2004, at 1:19 PM, Robyn Coburn wrote:
> And
> Home Schoolers of California
> www.HSC.org
>
> HSC also has an email list, although it is not about unschooling
> specifically.
>
> To find local home schoolers with parkdays and what-not in your area
> try
> www.nhen.org and click on the county contacts link. Where are you in
> CA?
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