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I enjoyed reading the articles about sleepy adolescents. Thanks Pam. I have two of them in the house now.

I laughed (cried?) when I read one of the recommendations for parents: Avoid arguing with your adolescent just before bedtime. Geez, let's just schedule that argument for a better time shall we? I wish more parents would choose a life where arguing is not the norm.

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~Mary

"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the
green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly
alive."

Pamela Sorooshian

On Nov 10, 2005, at 9:58 AM, zenmomma@... wrote:

> I laughed (cried?) when I read one of the recommendations for
> parents: Avoid arguing with your adolescent just before bedtime.

Yeah - those articles are good for pointing out that there is good
reason for kids to want to stay up late and sleep late --- but not
good for the bits of parenting advice. And even those who have done
sleep studies on teenagers don't know the extent to which the staying
up late, sleeping late, seems to naturally happen in a freedom-based
household.

-pam



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Ren Allen

"Yeah - those articles are good for pointing out that there is good
reason for kids to want to stay up late and sleep late"

Trevor's schedule this last couple of weeks is to stay up until 5-7am
and sleep most of the day! I think it's annoying my dh, but luckily
he isn't saying anything to Trevor.

He's mostly online with his friends. Friends that he misses since we
moved, and friends from the conference he wishes we lived near. He
really NEEDS his friends now and I'm just really glad that technology
can give him some access to them.

Ren

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In a message dated 11/11/2005 9:40:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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I laughed (cried?) when I read one of the recommendations for parents: Avoid
arguing with your adolescent just before bedtime. Geez, let's just schedule
that argument for a better time shall we? I wish more parents would choose a
life where arguing is not the norm.



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When we first started unschooling, I got lots of curious questions and
comments from people. "Isn't it a lot of work for you?" I don't have to fight
about homework! Lots easier!

One common one from parents, though, was, "I think my son/daughter would
just fight all the time if we were together all the time." What I pointed out
is that when everyone is rushing off to school/activities/work, etc. that
there's never time to totally resolve conflict. When you're together and have the
time to really understand each other and come to good solutions, there are
fewer and fewer conflicts.

Kathryn


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jlh44music

> When we first started unschooling, I got lots of curious questions
and comments from people. "Isn't it a lot of work for you?" I don't
have to fight about homework! Lots easier!>>

This is our first year and I get that a lot, or "how is homeschooling
going" (I don't even SAY the word unschooling!). My usual answer is
great or something to that effect (sometimes depending on who it
is). We're still deschooling (BOTH of us) and I'm willing to let
that happen for as long as it takes.

> One common one from parents, though, was, "I think my son/daughter
would just fight all the time if we were together all the time."
What I pointed out is that when everyone is rushing off to
school/activities/work, etc. that there's never time to totally
resolve conflict. When you're together and have the time to really
understand each other and come to good solutions, there are fewer and
fewer conflicts.>>>>

When I first started researching homeschooling about 2 years ago, I
used to think "I could NEVER be home with my dd all day, we'd
fight/argue/not get along (fill in your favorite!). Because I took
the time to read, read, read, everything and anything I could find
(and especially when I found UNSCHOOLING!), those doubts went away.
It's not being informed fully that causes a lot of these types of
comments, I believe.
Jann (we spent the day at my MIL's house on the Cape (Cod, MA) doing
MORE work, dd came with us, she helped with painting and we had a
GREAT day as a family, some really GREAT conversations on the 1 1/2
hour drive down, she was very patient when we had to take longer on
some things, found things to do like taking all the wrenches of
different sizes and setting them up to tap on them with another tool
play songs because they each have a different pitch!).

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In a message dated 11/12/2005 1:31:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jlh44music@... writes:

"how is homeschooling
going" (I don't even SAY the word unschooling!). My usual answer is
great or something to that effect (sometimes depending on who it
is).


~~~~~~~~~~
For some reason, that question just irks me. I guess I just feel like people
are questioning my "ability" to homeschool. Like, am I ever going to answer,
"It's going horribly!" or "I hate it" or anything other than the fact that I
am ENJOYING myself and my children?
And yes, depending on who's asking, I either answer a simple, "Great" or I
may go into my spiel about it like I did with my 2 college friends that think
I'm nuts (both VERY pro-public school @@).

Jenny
Unschooling in Greenfield, MA
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The important thing is not so much that every child should be taught, as
that every child should be given the wish to learn. ~John Lubbock



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michele oquinn

The question that irks me even more is, "What did you
learn today?" or What did you do today?(directed at my
11yo son) You can imagine the looks I get when he
says (rather gleefully) I played video games!
I tend to feel people doubt my ability and decision to
"do it my way". THAT seems to be the reason I always
feel I'm in a defensive mode. :(
I try to always say we're doing great and Spencer is
so much happier at home.

I clipped a comic from last weeks PARADE in Sundays
paper: mom, dad and son at dinner table...
"How come Mom doesn't ask what YOU learned today?"
(directed at Dad)


--- Saulithyia@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 11/12/2005 1:31:43 AM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> jlh44music@... writes:
>
> "how is homeschooling
> going" (I don't even SAY the word unschooling!).
> My usual answer is
> great or something to that effect (sometimes
> depending on who it
> is).
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> For some reason, that question just irks me. I guess
> I just feel like people
> are questioning my "ability" to homeschool. Like, am
> I ever going to answer,
> "It's going horribly!" or "I hate it" or anything
> other than the fact that I
> am ENJOYING myself and my children?
> And yes, depending on who's asking, I either answer
> a simple, "Great" or I
> may go into my spiel about it like I did with my 2
> college friends that think
> I'm nuts (both VERY pro-public school @@).
>
> Jenny
> Unschooling in Greenfield, MA
> Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn
> (5-19-04)
> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
> The important thing is not so much that every child
> should be taught, as
> that every child should be given the wish to learn.
> ~John Lubbock
>




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In a message dated 11/12/2005 7:36:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mmoquinn@... writes:

I clipped a comic from last weeks PARADE in Sundays
paper: mom, dad and son at dinner table...
"How come Mom doesn't ask what YOU learned today?"
(directed at Dad)


~~~~~~~~~~
LOL! That's a good one...

Jenny
Unschooling in Greenfield, MA
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The important thing is not so much that every child should be taught, as
that every child should be given the wish to learn. ~John Lubbock



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