Re: [unschoolingbasics] good eater WAS Unschooling?? Rebecca
k
went to jason's deli last night and thanks to this and other
unschooling
lists, no guilt about ds' largely sweet filled dinner, consisting of
fruit and cream with a couple of boiled eggs on the side (only ate the
whites) plus a couple of olives and a grand finale of two cones of ice
cream. Friends pronounced him a good eater.
Kathe
Ren Allen wrote:
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unschooling
lists, no guilt about ds' largely sweet filled dinner, consisting of
fruit and cream with a couple of boiled eggs on the side (only ate the
whites) plus a couple of olives and a grand finale of two cones of ice
cream. Friends pronounced him a good eater.
Kathe
Ren Allen wrote:
> "I can understand that you might not be able to imagine it but kidscooking/baking
> who will eat sugar to almost the exclusion of anything else do
> exist. I live with one. For several years, he ate almost nothing
> besides sugar-filled, highly processed food. He went into
> malnutrition while I kept talking to him about nutrition and
> offering options."
>
>
> I'm having a really hard time with this one. Not because it's hard to
> believe a child will eat mostly sweets...I have one of those. But to
> imagine a parent allowing a child to be malnourished just because
> he/she exclusively prefers sweets...that's just not doing your job!
> Why was he eating only processed foods? Why weren't you
> things he liked that were sweet AND loaded with nutrition?we
>
> There are loads of sweet things with nutritive value.
>
> Heck, we had a casserole, pea salad and layered berry/cream dessert
> for dinner last night. I always put everything out at once, because
> don't do the "dessert after dinner" thing. If there is something__________________________________
> sweet, it's out with the dinner.
>
> So...Jalen ate about 7 servings of the dessert item. Nothing else.
> Guess what? It has eggs, butter, cream and berries. He'll be fine.
> There are a million ways to make sure a child gets enough
> nutrition...none of them have to involve coercion or control.
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<<That's not doing your job....why not put out things that are sweet and loaded with nutrition?>>
I did this. We don't have "dessert"....we have meals. Our meals always have a mix of foods. Protein, sweets, baked goods, etc.. The problem was that Zach simply wouldn't eat them. He would come sit at the table, look at the food and take his plate and leave the table. He would then go scrounging through the pantry and get something pre-packaged and full of sugar.
I had done all the grating carrots into spaghetti sauce, making zucchini muffins, etc.. But it didn't make much difference because if it didn't come pre-packaged, Zach wasn't going to eat it.
By the time he was 2, we were already talking to nutritionists and doctors because Zach went from a fat, happy baby on the bottle (Zach was adopted and nursing wasn't an option due to legal issues in his particular case) to a toddler that simply refused to eat more than a bite or two of anything.
I sat down with Zach and talked to him about my concerns. I asked him to make me a list of things he felt he would eat if we had them for meals. I made absolutely sure that every meal contained at least one of those things along with other stuff. He still wouldn't eat it. I asked him to simply just try things and perhaps he would like them. He refused.
So no, I didn't just sit there. I came to the lists, asked for guidance, got some that I thought was good (take food to where he is, etc.), I followed the advice. It would work for a time or two and then stop.
And then because the food was an issue with Zach it started in with the other younger kids. Not nearly to the extreme of Zach but following along. I had to put my foot down. We no longer buy pre-packaged sugar stuff at all....which of course is penalizing the children that handle their food choices quite well. We don't have soda. Even if we have fruit juice, Zach will drink it like there is no tomorrow and not eat.
But Zach isn't just like this about food, he is like this about everything. He wants what he wants when he wants it. He doesn't listen to reason. Out of all the children who have lived with us, he is only one that I have to "draw a line in the sand" with.
So....
we didn't have any food restrictions
we talked about nutrition
I made the food Zach professed to like
I made sweet things packed with nutrition
I talked to nutritionists and doctors
I tried taking food to where he was
I made the other kids do without so Zach wouldn't be tempted
I really don't know what else you would have had me do. Exactly what would have been "doing my job"?
Julie S.
I did this. We don't have "dessert"....we have meals. Our meals always have a mix of foods. Protein, sweets, baked goods, etc.. The problem was that Zach simply wouldn't eat them. He would come sit at the table, look at the food and take his plate and leave the table. He would then go scrounging through the pantry and get something pre-packaged and full of sugar.
I had done all the grating carrots into spaghetti sauce, making zucchini muffins, etc.. But it didn't make much difference because if it didn't come pre-packaged, Zach wasn't going to eat it.
By the time he was 2, we were already talking to nutritionists and doctors because Zach went from a fat, happy baby on the bottle (Zach was adopted and nursing wasn't an option due to legal issues in his particular case) to a toddler that simply refused to eat more than a bite or two of anything.
I sat down with Zach and talked to him about my concerns. I asked him to make me a list of things he felt he would eat if we had them for meals. I made absolutely sure that every meal contained at least one of those things along with other stuff. He still wouldn't eat it. I asked him to simply just try things and perhaps he would like them. He refused.
So no, I didn't just sit there. I came to the lists, asked for guidance, got some that I thought was good (take food to where he is, etc.), I followed the advice. It would work for a time or two and then stop.
And then because the food was an issue with Zach it started in with the other younger kids. Not nearly to the extreme of Zach but following along. I had to put my foot down. We no longer buy pre-packaged sugar stuff at all....which of course is penalizing the children that handle their food choices quite well. We don't have soda. Even if we have fruit juice, Zach will drink it like there is no tomorrow and not eat.
But Zach isn't just like this about food, he is like this about everything. He wants what he wants when he wants it. He doesn't listen to reason. Out of all the children who have lived with us, he is only one that I have to "draw a line in the sand" with.
So....
we didn't have any food restrictions
we talked about nutrition
I made the food Zach professed to like
I made sweet things packed with nutrition
I talked to nutritionists and doctors
I tried taking food to where he was
I made the other kids do without so Zach wouldn't be tempted
I really don't know what else you would have had me do. Exactly what would have been "doing my job"?
Julie S.
----- Original Message -----
From: k <katherand2003@...>
Date: Monday, November 7, 2005 11:05 am
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] good eater WAS Unschooling?? Rebecca
> went to jason's deli last night and thanks to this and other
> unschooling
> lists, no guilt about ds' largely sweet filled dinner, consisting
> of
> fruit and cream with a couple of boiled eggs on the side (only ate
> the
> whites) plus a couple of olives and a grand finale of two cones of
> ice
> cream. Friends pronounced him a good eater.
>
> Kathe
>
>
> Ren Allen wrote:
> > "I can understand that you might not be able to imagine it but kids
> > who will eat sugar to almost the exclusion of anything else do
> > exist. I live with one. For several years, he ate almost nothing
> > besides sugar-filled, highly processed food. He went into
> > malnutrition while I kept talking to him about nutrition and
> > offering options."
> >
> >
> > I'm having a really hard time with this one. Not because it's
> hard to
> > believe a child will eat mostly sweets...I have one of those.
> But to
> > imagine a parent allowing a child to be malnourished just because
> > he/she exclusively prefers sweets...that's just not doing your job!
> > Why was he eating only processed foods? Why weren't you
> cooking/baking
> > things he liked that were sweet AND loaded with nutrition?
> >
> > There are loads of sweet things with nutritive value.
> >
> > Heck, we had a casserole, pea salad and layered berry/cream dessert
> > for dinner last night. I always put everything out at once, because
> we
> > don't do the "dessert after dinner" thing. If there is something
> > sweet, it's out with the dinner.
> >
> > So...Jalen ate about 7 servings of the dessert item. Nothing else.
> > Guess what? It has eggs, butter, cream and berries. He'll be fine.
> > There are a million ways to make sure a child gets enough
> > nutrition...none of them have to involve coercion or control.
>
>
>
>
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