Re: [unschoolingbasics] Digest Number 36
Millie Rosa
Hi ya'll,
We did get Will bathed really well. Me and Dada got in the tub (we have a big one), and started laughing and splashing and blowing bubbles. He played in there for nearly an hour and really didn't want to get out but he insisted on running cold water and he was getting shivery and blue. I'll think he'll get in more easily again soon.
In response to this last digest, I think the posts were under strong reaction to TV. This is one of the discussions that turned me off of another site...I think that TV can definitely raise negative issues. I recognize that there is a lot of valuable programming available and perhaps I need to remember that these folks are probably referring to much older kids. We do have a TV. I want to remove it to the closet. We do not have cable, we usually can't get PBS...and like you said, Arthur and other stuff on there is just junk....and they all go to school. I really do not want to have to talk Will out of wanting to go to school...I'm not that comfortable having the issue raised repeatedly in my living room by Public Broadcasting. I do LOVE those brothers Chris and Martin and would love to have all their episodes. Will is interested in watching Jay Jay and he never seems to be interested in watching any tv at all. We go to Grandpa's...who has a BIG screen and cable...if I turn on
Sesame Street Will screams "TURN TV OFF!!!!" every time. He likes Animal Planet. Grandpa turns looking for cartoons (boy there's some aweful crap on those)...I keep telling him...channel 54. Anyway. William saw something on ER (my fault...a weakness and why I need to put the damn thing away), a terrible wreck...and I might would go so far as to say it damaged him. I don't want him eating his dinner listening to the news either. He doesn't need to have death tolls and the fact that there is terrible craziness and wars broadcast into his head so young in his life. He will certainly have to learn all about our world...and I certainly hope that his father and I will infect him with our love of peace. He wants to be an astronaut and go to the moon and Mars and if he decides to do that then that will probably mean Air Force (Gulp!) ooooh Pray for Peace. Yeah, I admit I do kindof see the TV and also advertising and media as an evil...I hate having to tell Will what all the things
they are advertising are. And also, I have been laying in bed trying to space and all through my head go all the stupid jingles or some song from a kids tape. Or Will sings a stupid jingle...I just don't think we need all kinds of random crap floating into our brains. I think maybe I am sensitive auditively like some of your kids. We will absolutely not be paying $50 a month for channels on TV.
Also, I balked when I read it, but you guys are right, I do HAVE to get Will his own computer...this just amazes me.
ramblin on-
Millie Rosa
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We did get Will bathed really well. Me and Dada got in the tub (we have a big one), and started laughing and splashing and blowing bubbles. He played in there for nearly an hour and really didn't want to get out but he insisted on running cold water and he was getting shivery and blue. I'll think he'll get in more easily again soon.
In response to this last digest, I think the posts were under strong reaction to TV. This is one of the discussions that turned me off of another site...I think that TV can definitely raise negative issues. I recognize that there is a lot of valuable programming available and perhaps I need to remember that these folks are probably referring to much older kids. We do have a TV. I want to remove it to the closet. We do not have cable, we usually can't get PBS...and like you said, Arthur and other stuff on there is just junk....and they all go to school. I really do not want to have to talk Will out of wanting to go to school...I'm not that comfortable having the issue raised repeatedly in my living room by Public Broadcasting. I do LOVE those brothers Chris and Martin and would love to have all their episodes. Will is interested in watching Jay Jay and he never seems to be interested in watching any tv at all. We go to Grandpa's...who has a BIG screen and cable...if I turn on
Sesame Street Will screams "TURN TV OFF!!!!" every time. He likes Animal Planet. Grandpa turns looking for cartoons (boy there's some aweful crap on those)...I keep telling him...channel 54. Anyway. William saw something on ER (my fault...a weakness and why I need to put the damn thing away), a terrible wreck...and I might would go so far as to say it damaged him. I don't want him eating his dinner listening to the news either. He doesn't need to have death tolls and the fact that there is terrible craziness and wars broadcast into his head so young in his life. He will certainly have to learn all about our world...and I certainly hope that his father and I will infect him with our love of peace. He wants to be an astronaut and go to the moon and Mars and if he decides to do that then that will probably mean Air Force (Gulp!) ooooh Pray for Peace. Yeah, I admit I do kindof see the TV and also advertising and media as an evil...I hate having to tell Will what all the things
they are advertising are. And also, I have been laying in bed trying to space and all through my head go all the stupid jingles or some song from a kids tape. Or Will sings a stupid jingle...I just don't think we need all kinds of random crap floating into our brains. I think maybe I am sensitive auditively like some of your kids. We will absolutely not be paying $50 a month for channels on TV.
Also, I balked when I read it, but you guys are right, I do HAVE to get Will his own computer...this just amazes me.
ramblin on-
Millie Rosa
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Jon and Rue Kream
>>perhaps I need to remember that these folks are probably referring to mucholder kids.
**Maybe not. Many of us have kids whose viewing was never limited or
controlled by their parents at any age.
>>I don't want him eating his dinner listening to the news either. Hedoesn't need to have death tolls and the fact that there is terrible
craziness and wars broadcast into his head so young in his life.
**Well, I don't watch or listen to the news myself. It takes too much out of
me emotionally. My kids have never expressed an interest in watching it.
If they do we'll figure something out then - no need to worry about problems
that don't exist.
>>I just don't think we need all kinds of random crap floating into ourbrains.
**I see our brains pretty much as random crap depositories :0). We pull all
sorts of bits and pieces from all over the place and put them together in
ways that make sense to us. I don't think that's a bad thing.
>>We will absolutely not be paying $50 a month for channels on TV.**What if your son wants to? ~Rue
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Dana Matt
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for all the TV we need, four rooms, three tivos :D
(Dish network also has on-tv video games which we buy,
too :)
Dana
in Montana
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> >>We will absolutely not be paying $50 a month forThat would be a deal! ;) We pay about $85 a month
> channels on TV.
>
for all the TV we need, four rooms, three tivos :D
(Dish network also has on-tv video games which we buy,
too :)
Dana
in Montana
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Nichole in Round Rock
That's so funny, Dana.
I don't think TV is bad at all, but when we move to our new neighborhood, we are going to go the route of no cable for a while. I think it will all be okay because we are moving into a neighborhood with 5 or 6 other homeschooling families, two of which are unschoolers. We're really excited. Loads of kids and we'll even be sharing the house with a beginning unschooling family (that will make 4 unschooling families in our neighborhood), and renting from another. We're really excited about it.
We've done times with and without cable all my adult life. I think it's okay either way. We'll see how this goes for a while. I think we'll still get 4 channels.
:o)
Nichole
I don't think TV is bad at all, but when we move to our new neighborhood, we are going to go the route of no cable for a while. I think it will all be okay because we are moving into a neighborhood with 5 or 6 other homeschooling families, two of which are unschoolers. We're really excited. Loads of kids and we'll even be sharing the house with a beginning unschooling family (that will make 4 unschooling families in our neighborhood), and renting from another. We're really excited about it.
We've done times with and without cable all my adult life. I think it's okay either way. We'll see how this goes for a while. I think we'll still get 4 channels.
:o)
Nichole
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From: Dana Matt
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:05 PM
Subject: RE: [unschoolingbasics] Digest Number 36
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> >>We will absolutely not be paying $50 a month for
> channels on TV.
>
That would be a deal! ;) We pay about $85 a month
for all the TV we need, four rooms, three tivos :D
(Dish network also has on-tv video games which we buy,
too :)
Dana
in Montana
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Joan Labbe & Salvatore Genovese
For anyone looking for gentle parenting resources,
I recall someone on the list recommending Marshall Rosenberg's Non-Violent
Communication book... I have been in the process of reading this book and
have now finished. I like it a lot, although it is not specifically
targeted at parenting. However, from going to NVC's websites I obtained two
booklets I highly recommend on parenting specifically: Raising Children
Compassionately by Marshall Rosenberg and Parenting From Your Heart by Inbal
Kashtan (who is apparently working on a book specifically about parenting
with NVC - I will likely be first in line to purchase it!).
Kashtan's pamphlet also references an NVC-parenting email list which I am
joining. If anyone is interested, you can get the info on it at
http://www.cnvc.org/egroups.htm#parenting
Cheers,
Joan
I recall someone on the list recommending Marshall Rosenberg's Non-Violent
Communication book... I have been in the process of reading this book and
have now finished. I like it a lot, although it is not specifically
targeted at parenting. However, from going to NVC's websites I obtained two
booklets I highly recommend on parenting specifically: Raising Children
Compassionately by Marshall Rosenberg and Parenting From Your Heart by Inbal
Kashtan (who is apparently working on a book specifically about parenting
with NVC - I will likely be first in line to purchase it!).
Kashtan's pamphlet also references an NVC-parenting email list which I am
joining. If anyone is interested, you can get the info on it at
http://www.cnvc.org/egroups.htm#parenting
Cheers,
Joan
Joan Labbe & Salvatore Genovese
For anyone who was interested in my quote in another post from Inbal Kashtan
(who as noted below is working on an NVC parenting book) on Power With
versus Power Over, I have been corresponding with her about the NVC
parenting list and she shared with me that she is the unschooler of an
almost 6 year old boy. Interesting.
Joan
************************
"You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't
help."
-Calvin
-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Labbe & Salvatore Genovese
[mailto:salgenovese@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Gentle Parenting Resources
For anyone looking for gentle parenting resources,
I recall someone on the list recommending Marshall Rosenberg's Non-Violent
Communication book... I have been in the process of reading this book and
have now finished. I like it a lot, although it is not specifically
targeted at parenting. However, from going to NVC's websites I obtained two
booklets I highly recommend on parenting specifically: Raising Children
Compassionately by Marshall Rosenberg and Parenting From Your Heart by Inbal
Kashtan (who is apparently working on a book specifically about parenting
with NVC - I will likely be first in line to purchase it!).
Kashtan's pamphlet also references an NVC-parenting email list which I am
joining. If anyone is interested, you can get the info on it at
http://www.cnvc.org/egroups.htm#parenting
Cheers,
Joan
(who as noted below is working on an NVC parenting book) on Power With
versus Power Over, I have been corresponding with her about the NVC
parenting list and she shared with me that she is the unschooler of an
almost 6 year old boy. Interesting.
Joan
************************
"You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't
help."
-Calvin
-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Labbe & Salvatore Genovese
[mailto:salgenovese@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Gentle Parenting Resources
For anyone looking for gentle parenting resources,
I recall someone on the list recommending Marshall Rosenberg's Non-Violent
Communication book... I have been in the process of reading this book and
have now finished. I like it a lot, although it is not specifically
targeted at parenting. However, from going to NVC's websites I obtained two
booklets I highly recommend on parenting specifically: Raising Children
Compassionately by Marshall Rosenberg and Parenting From Your Heart by Inbal
Kashtan (who is apparently working on a book specifically about parenting
with NVC - I will likely be first in line to purchase it!).
Kashtan's pamphlet also references an NVC-parenting email list which I am
joining. If anyone is interested, you can get the info on it at
http://www.cnvc.org/egroups.htm#parenting
Cheers,
Joan