pot smoking
Valerie
Bravo to Kelly for handling the pot smoking the way she is! Someone
asked if she was ready to go to jail for allowing her son to smoke
in her garage. My first thought was hell yes I'd go to jail! Then I
thought about why I had that gut reaction.
If a kid is going to smoke, he's GOING to smoke. I'd see it as
having two choices: give him a safe as possible place to smoke and
take the chance of Mom/Dad doing jailtime or forbid him from smoking
at home and take the chance of him driving while high and being in a
car accident. The choice is obvious to me.
Laurie never tried drugs and seldom has a (wimpy) drink, but I was a
pothead/drinker for years before becoming a Mom. My parents are
oblivious to anything I ever did and I would have given anything
(still would) to have a relationship with either of them that
smacked of sincerity in the least.
GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY
love, Valerie
asked if she was ready to go to jail for allowing her son to smoke
in her garage. My first thought was hell yes I'd go to jail! Then I
thought about why I had that gut reaction.
If a kid is going to smoke, he's GOING to smoke. I'd see it as
having two choices: give him a safe as possible place to smoke and
take the chance of Mom/Dad doing jailtime or forbid him from smoking
at home and take the chance of him driving while high and being in a
car accident. The choice is obvious to me.
Laurie never tried drugs and seldom has a (wimpy) drink, but I was a
pothead/drinker for years before becoming a Mom. My parents are
oblivious to anything I ever did and I would have given anything
(still would) to have a relationship with either of them that
smacked of sincerity in the least.
GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY
love, Valerie
G&M Contracting Inc., Kenneth Gillilan
>>>>Someoneasked if she was ready to go to jail for allowing her son to smoke
in her garage. My first thought was hell yes I'd go to jail! Then I
thought about why I had that gut reaction.>>>>
That person was me and the thought behind it was; how can I be there for my
kids if I'm sitting in jail? Who's giving your child a safe place to smoke
pot if your in jail and he, assuming he/she is under 18 is sent to a foster
home? In Vermont that's what happens,you lose your home, your freedom AND
your kids. That to me hardly seems worth it. How can I live with my kids?
It is a very precarious situation and not just a; I smoked pot when I was a
kid answer. There is more to consider here(Vermont) than in many states.
I'm torn on this one, because I've seen pot, yes pot, ruin a few lives.
Not pot itself, but the abuse of it and then the eventual use of harder
drugs to maintain the high. My personal experience may not have been yours.
I used pot, but stopped after attending a party where it was laced. I can
see both sides to this story. Would I have been safer at home, yes! Could I
have bought pot for home use that was laced, yes.....
why can't their be a compromise like some parents have with drinking kids.
Using it is fine, but don't drive under the influence. I'll pick you up
regardless of time or place won't complain.
I'm not saying don't do it, I'm saying there must be a better alternative
than losing my kids.
AnnMarie
[G&M Contracting Inc., Kenneth Gillilan]
-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie [mailto:valerie@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] pot smoking
Bravo to Kelly for handling the pot smoking the way she is! Someone
asked if she was ready to go to jail for allowing her son to smoke
in her garage. My first thought was hell yes I'd go to jail! Then I
thought about why I had that gut reaction.
If a kid is going to smoke, he's GOING to smoke. I'd see it as
having two choices: give him a safe as possible place to smoke and
take the chance of Mom/Dad doing jailtime or forbid him from smoking
at home and take the chance of him driving while high and being in a
car accident. The choice is obvious to me.
Laurie never tried drugs and seldom has a (wimpy) drink, but I was a
pothead/drinker for years before becoming a Mom. My parents are
oblivious to anything I ever did and I would have given anything
(still would) to have a relationship with either of them that
smacked of sincerity in the least.
GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY
love, Valerie
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Kelly Lenhart
For me the whole issue is one of risk--I've been busted for pot that wasn't
mine but was in my house. After I had a kid. (Hubby was growing, the
plants weren't even shoots and it was just a joke, in the larger picture.)
But it was the single scariest moment of my life and changed an activity I
had enjoyed a great deal and would love to enjoy again into an unacceptable
risk.
I have told my husband I don't care if he smokes---somewhere else. At a
friends, at a concert, whatever. Just not in our house. It has nothing to
do with being intoxicated in front of our kids, although that is an issue to
think about. It has to do with risking not being there for them.
I miss it. I enjoyed it. I will again when it is either legal or my kids
are grown and moved out. (Damn, I hope to see the legal FIRST!! That's at
least 18 years from now. Gad!)
I would tell my kids the same thing--I'd really rather you didn't because
the law sucks, but don't do it in a way that will endanger our whole family.
You getting busted we can deal with. It'll suck, but that's up to you. And
I'll help (bail, lawyer, etc.) But I can't do that if you get me busted,
too.
-sigh- It is a ridiculous situation in my opinion. Like any intoxicant
(pot, alcohol, pills) you can have addiction, either mental or physical.
All of it can be abused. But to make them illegal just brings our whole
society down, rather than really helping in any way. I'd rather see it
legal and taxed. Like cigarettes.
Kelly
mine but was in my house. After I had a kid. (Hubby was growing, the
plants weren't even shoots and it was just a joke, in the larger picture.)
But it was the single scariest moment of my life and changed an activity I
had enjoyed a great deal and would love to enjoy again into an unacceptable
risk.
I have told my husband I don't care if he smokes---somewhere else. At a
friends, at a concert, whatever. Just not in our house. It has nothing to
do with being intoxicated in front of our kids, although that is an issue to
think about. It has to do with risking not being there for them.
I miss it. I enjoyed it. I will again when it is either legal or my kids
are grown and moved out. (Damn, I hope to see the legal FIRST!! That's at
least 18 years from now. Gad!)
I would tell my kids the same thing--I'd really rather you didn't because
the law sucks, but don't do it in a way that will endanger our whole family.
You getting busted we can deal with. It'll suck, but that's up to you. And
I'll help (bail, lawyer, etc.) But I can't do that if you get me busted,
too.
-sigh- It is a ridiculous situation in my opinion. Like any intoxicant
(pot, alcohol, pills) you can have addiction, either mental or physical.
All of it can be abused. But to make them illegal just brings our whole
society down, rather than really helping in any way. I'd rather see it
legal and taxed. Like cigarettes.
Kelly
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/15/2004 1:33:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gmcontractinginc@... writes:
why can't their be a compromise like some parents have with drinking kids.
Using it is fine, but don't drive under the influence. I'll pick you up
regardless of time or place won't complain.
<<<<<
There can't be because it's illegal. Hell, in many ways, I'd rather that
he'd drink! He'd get nailed for under-age drinking----but that's a slap on the
wrist! The whole pot thing is illegal, no matter what your age.
It's stickier because of that. The illegality of it---for *every*one.
Legalize it. Tax the snot out of it.
But I think it'd be a bit easier to grow, dry, and roll than to make
moonshine! <BWG> Then it's harder to tax! <g>
~Kelly
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
gmcontractinginc@... writes:
why can't their be a compromise like some parents have with drinking kids.
Using it is fine, but don't drive under the influence. I'll pick you up
regardless of time or place won't complain.
<<<<<
There can't be because it's illegal. Hell, in many ways, I'd rather that
he'd drink! He'd get nailed for under-age drinking----but that's a slap on the
wrist! The whole pot thing is illegal, no matter what your age.
It's stickier because of that. The illegality of it---for *every*one.
Legalize it. Tax the snot out of it.
But I think it'd be a bit easier to grow, dry, and roll than to make
moonshine! <BWG> Then it's harder to tax! <g>
~Kelly
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
Well, thank you, Valerie. But it's still a sticky subject! And I doubt I'll
ever be truly comfortable as long as it's illegal.
I wish I could say that unschooling leads to teens who don't drink or smoke
pot! But it *does* lead to kids who will talk with you about it---and
hopefully be SMART about it!
And yes, if he's going to smoke, he's going to smoke. My goal is for him to
be as smart as he can about it, not hide it (well, from *me*, anyway! <g>),
and maybe work to change the laws.
I can't forbid it----well, I WON'T----where would that get me? The best I
can do is to keep him as safe as I can within the trust we've built.
~Kelly
In a message dated 6/15/2004 11:37:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
valerie@... writes:
Bravo to Kelly for handling the pot smoking the way she is! Someone
asked if she was ready to go to jail for allowing her son to smoke
in her garage. My first thought was hell yes I'd go to jail! Then I
thought about why I had that gut reaction.
If a kid is going to smoke, he's GOING to smoke. I'd see it as
having two choices: give him a safe as possible place to smoke and
take the chance of Mom/Dad doing jailtime or forbid him from smoking
at home and take the chance of him driving while high and being in a
car accident. The choice is obvious to me.
Laurie never tried drugs and seldom has a (wimpy) drink, but I was a
pothead/drinker for years before becoming a Mom. My parents are
oblivious to anything I ever did and I would have given anything
(still would) to have a relationship with either of them that
smacked of sincerity in the least.
GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
ever be truly comfortable as long as it's illegal.
I wish I could say that unschooling leads to teens who don't drink or smoke
pot! But it *does* lead to kids who will talk with you about it---and
hopefully be SMART about it!
And yes, if he's going to smoke, he's going to smoke. My goal is for him to
be as smart as he can about it, not hide it (well, from *me*, anyway! <g>),
and maybe work to change the laws.
I can't forbid it----well, I WON'T----where would that get me? The best I
can do is to keep him as safe as I can within the trust we've built.
~Kelly
In a message dated 6/15/2004 11:37:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
valerie@... writes:
Bravo to Kelly for handling the pot smoking the way she is! Someone
asked if she was ready to go to jail for allowing her son to smoke
in her garage. My first thought was hell yes I'd go to jail! Then I
thought about why I had that gut reaction.
If a kid is going to smoke, he's GOING to smoke. I'd see it as
having two choices: give him a safe as possible place to smoke and
take the chance of Mom/Dad doing jailtime or forbid him from smoking
at home and take the chance of him driving while high and being in a
car accident. The choice is obvious to me.
Laurie never tried drugs and seldom has a (wimpy) drink, but I was a
pothead/drinker for years before becoming a Mom. My parents are
oblivious to anything I ever did and I would have given anything
(still would) to have a relationship with either of them that
smacked of sincerity in the least.
GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY GO KELLY
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
G&M Contracting Inc., Kenneth Gillilan
Kelly,
I completely agree with your thinking. I truly don't believe that pot is
any more dangerous than cigarettes or alcohol. I just don't want to lose my
family and when states make it the law that if parents no illegal activity
is going on in the home then it's like them doing it themselves. When
minors are involved you pay the price and then it turn so does the family.
AnnMarie
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Lenhart [mailto:mina@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] pot smoking
For me the whole issue is one of risk--I've been busted for pot that
wasn't
mine but was in my house. After I had a kid. (Hubby was growing, the
plants weren't even shoots and it was just a joke, in the larger picture.)
But it was the single scariest moment of my life and changed an activity I
had enjoyed a great deal and would love to enjoy again into an
unacceptable
risk.
I have told my husband I don't care if he smokes---somewhere else. At a
friends, at a concert, whatever. Just not in our house. It has nothing
to
do with being intoxicated in front of our kids, although that is an issue
to
think about. It has to do with risking not being there for them.
I miss it. I enjoyed it. I will again when it is either legal or my kids
are grown and moved out. (Damn, I hope to see the legal FIRST!! That's
at
least 18 years from now. Gad!)
I would tell my kids the same thing--I'd really rather you didn't because
the law sucks, but don't do it in a way that will endanger our whole
family.
You getting busted we can deal with. It'll suck, but that's up to you.
And
I'll help (bail, lawyer, etc.) But I can't do that if you get me busted,
too.
-sigh- It is a ridiculous situation in my opinion. Like any intoxicant
(pot, alcohol, pills) you can have addiction, either mental or physical.
All of it can be abused. But to make them illegal just brings our whole
society down, rather than really helping in any way. I'd rather see it
legal and taxed. Like cigarettes.
Kelly
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I completely agree with your thinking. I truly don't believe that pot is
any more dangerous than cigarettes or alcohol. I just don't want to lose my
family and when states make it the law that if parents no illegal activity
is going on in the home then it's like them doing it themselves. When
minors are involved you pay the price and then it turn so does the family.
AnnMarie
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Lenhart [mailto:mina@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] pot smoking
For me the whole issue is one of risk--I've been busted for pot that
wasn't
mine but was in my house. After I had a kid. (Hubby was growing, the
plants weren't even shoots and it was just a joke, in the larger picture.)
But it was the single scariest moment of my life and changed an activity I
had enjoyed a great deal and would love to enjoy again into an
unacceptable
risk.
I have told my husband I don't care if he smokes---somewhere else. At a
friends, at a concert, whatever. Just not in our house. It has nothing
to
do with being intoxicated in front of our kids, although that is an issue
to
think about. It has to do with risking not being there for them.
I miss it. I enjoyed it. I will again when it is either legal or my kids
are grown and moved out. (Damn, I hope to see the legal FIRST!! That's
at
least 18 years from now. Gad!)
I would tell my kids the same thing--I'd really rather you didn't because
the law sucks, but don't do it in a way that will endanger our whole
family.
You getting busted we can deal with. It'll suck, but that's up to you.
And
I'll help (bail, lawyer, etc.) But I can't do that if you get me busted,
too.
-sigh- It is a ridiculous situation in my opinion. Like any intoxicant
(pot, alcohol, pills) you can have addiction, either mental or physical.
All of it can be abused. But to make them illegal just brings our whole
society down, rather than really helping in any way. I'd rather see it
legal and taxed. Like cigarettes.
Kelly
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G&M Contracting Inc., Kenneth Gillilan
Kelly,
I was watching some movie, it was by that guy who is very popular for
his anti "political" movies I guess you could say. He's big on conspiracy
theories and such. He made the film bowling for Columbine I don't know if
anyone has ever heard of it. Anyway, his point was that we made pot illegal
because then we could start the "war on drugs" campaign and sink a ton of
money into the military and have excuses for invading other countries like
Nicaragua. IF this is true, you will never see it legalized, jeez the
government is having a hard time legalizing it to ease peoples suffering.
It's funny,(ironic) now that I think about it your right about the
alcohol. Underage drinking is a slap on the wrist as long as they don't do
it in the house where adults are present. Again it's sticky here.
AnnMarie
-----Original Message-----
From: kbcdlovejo@... [mailto:kbcdlovejo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] pot smoking
In a message dated 6/15/2004 1:33:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gmcontractinginc@... writes:
why can't their be a compromise like some parents have with drinking
kids.
Using it is fine, but don't drive under the influence. I'll pick you up
regardless of time or place won't complain.
<<<<<
There can't be because it's illegal. Hell, in many ways, I'd rather that
he'd drink! He'd get nailed for under-age drinking----but that's a slap on
the
wrist! The whole pot thing is illegal, no matter what your age.
It's stickier because of that. The illegality of it---for *every*one.
Legalize it. Tax the snot out of it.
But I think it'd be a bit easier to grow, dry, and roll than to make
moonshine! <BWG> Then it's harder to tax! <g>
~Kelly
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I was watching some movie, it was by that guy who is very popular for
his anti "political" movies I guess you could say. He's big on conspiracy
theories and such. He made the film bowling for Columbine I don't know if
anyone has ever heard of it. Anyway, his point was that we made pot illegal
because then we could start the "war on drugs" campaign and sink a ton of
money into the military and have excuses for invading other countries like
Nicaragua. IF this is true, you will never see it legalized, jeez the
government is having a hard time legalizing it to ease peoples suffering.
It's funny,(ironic) now that I think about it your right about the
alcohol. Underage drinking is a slap on the wrist as long as they don't do
it in the house where adults are present. Again it's sticky here.
AnnMarie
-----Original Message-----
From: kbcdlovejo@... [mailto:kbcdlovejo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] pot smoking
In a message dated 6/15/2004 1:33:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gmcontractinginc@... writes:
why can't their be a compromise like some parents have with drinking
kids.
Using it is fine, but don't drive under the influence. I'll pick you up
regardless of time or place won't complain.
<<<<<
There can't be because it's illegal. Hell, in many ways, I'd rather that
he'd drink! He'd get nailed for under-age drinking----but that's a slap on
the
wrist! The whole pot thing is illegal, no matter what your age.
It's stickier because of that. The illegality of it---for *every*one.
Legalize it. Tax the snot out of it.
But I think it'd be a bit easier to grow, dry, and roll than to make
moonshine! <BWG> Then it's harder to tax! <g>
~Kelly
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In a message dated 6/15/2004 10:09:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gmcontractinginc@... writes:
I was watching some movie, it was by that guy who is very popular for
his anti "political" movies I guess you could say. He's big on conspiracy
theories and such. He made the film bowling for Columbine I don't know if
anyone has ever heard of it.
<<<<
Michael Moore----also in the news this week for his new flick, _Fahrenheit
911_.
~Kelly
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gmcontractinginc@... writes:
I was watching some movie, it was by that guy who is very popular for
his anti "political" movies I guess you could say. He's big on conspiracy
theories and such. He made the film bowling for Columbine I don't know if
anyone has ever heard of it.
<<<<
Michael Moore----also in the news this week for his new flick, _Fahrenheit
911_.
~Kelly
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G&M Contracting Inc., Kenneth Gillilan
Thanks Kelly that was bugging me..... Michael Moore.
-----Original Message-----
From: kbcdlovejo@... [mailto:kbcdlovejo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] pot smoking
In a message dated 6/15/2004 10:09:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gmcontractinginc@... writes:
I was watching some movie, it was by that guy who is very popular for
his anti "political" movies I guess you could say. He's big on
conspiracy
theories and such. He made the film bowling for Columbine I don't know
if
anyone has ever heard of it.
<<<<
Michael Moore----also in the news this week for his new flick, _Fahrenheit
911_.
~Kelly
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-----Original Message-----
From: kbcdlovejo@... [mailto:kbcdlovejo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] pot smoking
In a message dated 6/15/2004 10:09:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gmcontractinginc@... writes:
I was watching some movie, it was by that guy who is very popular for
his anti "political" movies I guess you could say. He's big on
conspiracy
theories and such. He made the film bowling for Columbine I don't know
if
anyone has ever heard of it.
<<<<
Michael Moore----also in the news this week for his new flick, _Fahrenheit
911_.
~Kelly
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