Internet access?
billyandjoanne
We've been slowly giving our daughters (7 & 10) more and more control
over their choices. We started with eating, then playstation and then
using the computer thats used for software (we have two, one has
internet, one is for software). They love going online and I've found
some really cool sites that they love to visit.
How do you handle internet access? Are your children able to surf
the 'net freely? Do you check out the sites they visit before they go
on?
Also...what are their favorite sites? I'd love to have a few more to
show them. I started a floppy disk for each of them and they enjoy
looking at it to see what new sites I added for them. :-)
Some of their interests are horses, barbie, disney, fairies, harry
potter, coloring pages, reading, art, writing, jokes, animals...
Thanks for any suggestions you can give!
Joanne :-)
over their choices. We started with eating, then playstation and then
using the computer thats used for software (we have two, one has
internet, one is for software). They love going online and I've found
some really cool sites that they love to visit.
How do you handle internet access? Are your children able to surf
the 'net freely? Do you check out the sites they visit before they go
on?
Also...what are their favorite sites? I'd love to have a few more to
show them. I started a floppy disk for each of them and they enjoy
looking at it to see what new sites I added for them. :-)
Some of their interests are horses, barbie, disney, fairies, harry
potter, coloring pages, reading, art, writing, jokes, animals...
Thanks for any suggestions you can give!
Joanne :-)
jane doe
--- billyandjoanne <billyandjoanne@...> wrote:
was three (Grandpaw thought he shouldn't have to share
with mom and dad). Right now we have five working
computers, all are hooked up but they all have
different uses. I firmly believe the computer needs to
be in a public place, but my kids don't have TV's in
their room either. We have never restricted their
access with any kind of "NetNanny" type program or
prescreening but have always warned them about going
to places that were not appropriate and what to do if
they should land somewhere they felt they shouldn't
be. Just make sure your virus software is up to date
because some of those kid places (gamespy comes to
mind) are hotbeds for junk. I also love using Mozilla
because I find the pop up ads on IE reprehensible. You
can check the history on your browser, I do
periodically and the kids know it. My ten yr old will
still ask me sometimes to help her find something but
my son now leave windows open for me to look at, I
used to do that for him (still do). Oh, and if they
want to sign up for something they have to ask first
and they know to never give ANYONE their name or
location. My son even created a persona I let him use
when sites require info. The Internet is the whole
world at their fingertips!
ELISA
We have a collective responsibility to the least of us-Phil Ramone
We can do no great things; only small things with great love- Mother Teresa
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> How do you handle internet access? Are your childrenMy 12 1/2 yr old son has had his own computer since he
> able to surf
> the 'net freely? Do you check out the sites they
> visit before they go
> on?
was three (Grandpaw thought he shouldn't have to share
with mom and dad). Right now we have five working
computers, all are hooked up but they all have
different uses. I firmly believe the computer needs to
be in a public place, but my kids don't have TV's in
their room either. We have never restricted their
access with any kind of "NetNanny" type program or
prescreening but have always warned them about going
to places that were not appropriate and what to do if
they should land somewhere they felt they shouldn't
be. Just make sure your virus software is up to date
because some of those kid places (gamespy comes to
mind) are hotbeds for junk. I also love using Mozilla
because I find the pop up ads on IE reprehensible. You
can check the history on your browser, I do
periodically and the kids know it. My ten yr old will
still ask me sometimes to help her find something but
my son now leave windows open for me to look at, I
used to do that for him (still do). Oh, and if they
want to sign up for something they have to ask first
and they know to never give ANYONE their name or
location. My son even created a persona I let him use
when sites require info. The Internet is the whole
world at their fingertips!
ELISA
We have a collective responsibility to the least of us-Phil Ramone
We can do no great things; only small things with great love- Mother Teresa
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soggyboysmom
--- In [email protected], "billyandjoanne"
<billyandjoanne@y...> wrote:
back when we had one computer, now we've got 4, on a wireless network
so they all have Internet access). We put his favorite sites right up
front when he opens his browser. He knows that it is possible to surf
and he's seen us do it - he just has no interest in roaming the Web at
this point - partly, I think, because he doesn't see a need to, since
he has access to the things he wants and free range to find more with
our help if he wants it - and we proactively find things for him to
check out (as you are doing). Plus, surfing does require a bit of
spelling and he just has little interest in that at this point. One
time he was on a site that also had a pay-to-play section. He clicked
on the icon and it popped up a message that he needed to get his
parents for this. So he came and got me (obviously, since he couldn't
go forward). I read it and we discussed it - what it was, how much it
cost (I related the cost per month to number of Happy Meals so he
could grasp it - he was maybe 4 or 5 at the time), and he decided he'd
rather not spend the money for it.
I can't say for sure what he really likes now - he's more into network
gaming with DH (Age of Empires and StarCraft) than Internet gaming
right now. He did like neopets for quite a while and goes back to it
every now and again (I've got a neopet also and I'll pop in and feed
both pets regularly so they don't 'starve').
--Deb
<billyandjoanne@y...> wrote:
>DS is 7 and he has always had free access (as much as was possible
> How do you handle internet access? Are your children able to surf
> the 'net freely? Do you check out the sites they visit before they
>go
> on?
>
> Also...what are their favorite sites? I'd love to have a few more to
> show them. I started a floppy disk for each of them and they enjoy
> looking at it to see what new sites I added for them. :-)
> Some of their interests are horses, barbie, disney, fairies, harry
> potter, coloring pages, reading, art, writing, jokes, animals...
>
> Thanks for any suggestions you can give!
>
> Joanne :-)
back when we had one computer, now we've got 4, on a wireless network
so they all have Internet access). We put his favorite sites right up
front when he opens his browser. He knows that it is possible to surf
and he's seen us do it - he just has no interest in roaming the Web at
this point - partly, I think, because he doesn't see a need to, since
he has access to the things he wants and free range to find more with
our help if he wants it - and we proactively find things for him to
check out (as you are doing). Plus, surfing does require a bit of
spelling and he just has little interest in that at this point. One
time he was on a site that also had a pay-to-play section. He clicked
on the icon and it popped up a message that he needed to get his
parents for this. So he came and got me (obviously, since he couldn't
go forward). I read it and we discussed it - what it was, how much it
cost (I related the cost per month to number of Happy Meals so he
could grasp it - he was maybe 4 or 5 at the time), and he decided he'd
rather not spend the money for it.
I can't say for sure what he really likes now - he's more into network
gaming with DH (Age of Empires and StarCraft) than Internet gaming
right now. He did like neopets for quite a while and goes back to it
every now and again (I've got a neopet also and I'll pop in and feed
both pets regularly so they don't 'starve').
--Deb
Rue Kream
>>Also...what are their favorite sites?**My kids' favorite sites are in the Fun and Games section of this page:
http://www.unschooling.info/websites.htm
~Rue
http://www.freechild.info/
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billyandjoanne
Thanks for the good tips. We have pop up blocker which is so great,
I have no idea how we got along without it. LOL
I'm looking foward to giving them more and more control over the
internet. I wish the 'net was available when I was a kid! LOL
They don't have any interaction with people online yet but I'm sure
that will come soon. They love visiting their favorite sites and I
love finding sites for them. :-)
--- In [email protected], jane doe
<thebrucelisa1@y...> wrote:
I have no idea how we got along without it. LOL
I'm looking foward to giving them more and more control over the
internet. I wish the 'net was available when I was a kid! LOL
They don't have any interaction with people online yet but I'm sure
that will come soon. They love visiting their favorite sites and I
love finding sites for them. :-)
--- In [email protected], jane doe
<thebrucelisa1@y...> wrote:
> --- billyandjoanne <billyandjoanne@y...> wrote:Mother Teresa
> > How do you handle internet access? Are your children
> > able to surf
> > the 'net freely? Do you check out the sites they
> > visit before they go
> > on?
>
> My 12 1/2 yr old son has had his own computer since he
> was three (Grandpaw thought he shouldn't have to share
> with mom and dad). Right now we have five working
> computers, all are hooked up but they all have
> different uses. I firmly believe the computer needs to
> be in a public place, but my kids don't have TV's in
> their room either. We have never restricted their
> access with any kind of "NetNanny" type program or
> prescreening but have always warned them about going
> to places that were not appropriate and what to do if
> they should land somewhere they felt they shouldn't
> be. Just make sure your virus software is up to date
> because some of those kid places (gamespy comes to
> mind) are hotbeds for junk. I also love using Mozilla
> because I find the pop up ads on IE reprehensible. You
> can check the history on your browser, I do
> periodically and the kids know it. My ten yr old will
> still ask me sometimes to help her find something but
> my son now leave windows open for me to look at, I
> used to do that for him (still do). Oh, and if they
> want to sign up for something they have to ask first
> and they know to never give ANYONE their name or
> location. My son even created a persona I let him use
> when sites require info. The Internet is the whole
> world at their fingertips!
> ELISA
>
> We have a collective responsibility to the least of us-Phil Ramone
>
> We can do no great things; only small things with great love-
>
>
>
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In a message dated 9/27/2005 8:32:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
billyandjoanne@... writes:
How do you handle internet access? Are your children able to surf
the 'net freely? Do you check out the sites they visit before they go
on?
Also...what are their favorite sites? I'd love to have a few more to
show them. I started a floppy disk for each of them and they enjoy
looking at it to see what new sites I added for them. :-)
Some of their interests are horses, barbie, disney, fairies, harry
potter, coloring pages, reading, art, writing, jokes, animals...
We have AOL (for now) and it has a nice Parental Controls part where I can
limit the sites they visit to ones I chose and I can also set a timer.
My son likes games, so Disney Playhouse, the PBS website and PopCap games he
really likes.
Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
Yeats
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billyandjoanne@... writes:
How do you handle internet access? Are your children able to surf
the 'net freely? Do you check out the sites they visit before they go
on?
Also...what are their favorite sites? I'd love to have a few more to
show them. I started a floppy disk for each of them and they enjoy
looking at it to see what new sites I added for them. :-)
Some of their interests are horses, barbie, disney, fairies, harry
potter, coloring pages, reading, art, writing, jokes, animals...
We have AOL (for now) and it has a nice Parental Controls part where I can
limit the sites they visit to ones I chose and I can also set a timer.
My son likes games, so Disney Playhouse, the PBS website and PopCap games he
really likes.
Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
Yeats
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Pamela Sorooshian
On Sep 28, 2005, at 8:30 AM, Saulithyia@... wrote:
Just something to consider.
-pam
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> We have AOL (for now) and it has a nice Parental Controls partIf you set a timer, you limit how full they can fill their own pail.
> where I can
> limit the sites they visit to ones I chose and I can also set a timer.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire.
> ~William Butler
> Yeats
Just something to consider.
-pam
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/28/2005 12:35:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
If you set a timer, you limit how full they can fill their own pail.
Just something to consider.
The timer is flexible, but the computer is not his, he's not the only one to
use it. He knows when he has X-amount of time, and that in that time, he can
do as he wishes. He doesn't mind the timer, it's better than a complete
meltdown when someone else needs to use it. He has issues we're struggling with
(partly why we choose to homeschool) and time is a very important thing with
him. He needs limits, and gets all bent out of shape if there aren't any. We
went camping for 2 weeks this summer and boy, was it ever difficult with him.
It was a challenge for him. We are working with his counseler in dealing with
his obsessive qualities and it's been a long road. So, for now, the timer on
the computer stays for HIS benefit at the moment. That's what makes him
happy.
Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
Yeats
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
If you set a timer, you limit how full they can fill their own pail.
Just something to consider.
The timer is flexible, but the computer is not his, he's not the only one to
use it. He knows when he has X-amount of time, and that in that time, he can
do as he wishes. He doesn't mind the timer, it's better than a complete
meltdown when someone else needs to use it. He has issues we're struggling with
(partly why we choose to homeschool) and time is a very important thing with
him. He needs limits, and gets all bent out of shape if there aren't any. We
went camping for 2 weeks this summer and boy, was it ever difficult with him.
It was a challenge for him. We are working with his counseler in dealing with
his obsessive qualities and it's been a long road. So, for now, the timer on
the computer stays for HIS benefit at the moment. That's what makes him
happy.
Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
Yeats
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Brandie
My oldest two children are 15 and 13 -- and they
started having an interest in using the computer
regularly since they were about age 10. We have no
computer limits, and never have.
I don't check up on my children and often times, they
are on the computer when I am not at home or I am
asleep. We also don't have "net nanny" or any of the
other parental controls on our computer. One time our
son happened upon a porn site and it was no big deal.
He was like "whoa!", told us, we talked about it a bit
(I showed him how sometimes searching for something
something non-sexual can turn up porn), but its really
no big deal in our home.
I really don't have site recommendation since what my
older two kids like and visit is likely to not be of
interest to your children. I know that ds used to
loved neopets -- still kind of does. My 4 year old
loves to play the games on http://www.noggin.com but
that might be a bit young for yours.
I think it is a good idea to keep suggesting/finding
sites for them (. You can also always keep handy
links to search engines for kids like
http://www.yahooligans.com so they can learn to search
for things.
Brandie
http://tableforfive.blogspot.com
http://homemadeliving.blogspot.com
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started having an interest in using the computer
regularly since they were about age 10. We have no
computer limits, and never have.
I don't check up on my children and often times, they
are on the computer when I am not at home or I am
asleep. We also don't have "net nanny" or any of the
other parental controls on our computer. One time our
son happened upon a porn site and it was no big deal.
He was like "whoa!", told us, we talked about it a bit
(I showed him how sometimes searching for something
something non-sexual can turn up porn), but its really
no big deal in our home.
I really don't have site recommendation since what my
older two kids like and visit is likely to not be of
interest to your children. I know that ds used to
loved neopets -- still kind of does. My 4 year old
loves to play the games on http://www.noggin.com but
that might be a bit young for yours.
I think it is a good idea to keep suggesting/finding
sites for them (. You can also always keep handy
links to search engines for kids like
http://www.yahooligans.com so they can learn to search
for things.
Brandie
http://tableforfive.blogspot.com
http://homemadeliving.blogspot.com
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Debbie Mitchell
We use Firefox and Netscape browsers and set up profiles for each
family member (and the neighborhood kids who visit regularly and
whose parents give the OK :-D ) and set individual start pages with
picture links to our younger kids favorite sites. (My 17 year old
thought it was cool and set up her own as well.)
It's just simple html (we name each person's with their own name, ie:
zack.html) in a specific folder on the C drive. Then you go to
preferences and set your start page to that file. VERY simple and
VERY effective. (I love profiles! We each have our own bookmarks,
too, because of having them. I have a HUGE file and everyone else
innthe family has a smaller one, so it saves them having to go
through my stuff to get to their own. :-} )
We don't specifically sit there and monitor every second that they
are on but we have all of the computers in the front room (except my
daughter's - we recently ran a line to her room and she sometimes
goes online in her room and sometimes in the front room) so it's
easily seen by everyone in the room. (They often bounce back and
forth between each other's computers checking out what they are each
on.) They love playing games with each other and really love those
interactive sites where you create a play a character and interact
with other characters - we've recently discovered Disney's Virtual
Magic Kingdom ( http://vmk.disney.go.com ) and the older kids like
MapleStory (do NOT let younger kids onn this one - the content is OK
but many of the players are not very nice. (The Disney one has a
limited allowable vocabulary and is policed for appropriate
behavior.) There is another one that I wanted to have them try
because it was recommended a while ago by homeschoolers (before they
got interested in these kind of games) as a safe and fun game but I
had it bookmarked on my old laptop (which blew it's motherboard)
where I can't currently access it. :-{
My youngest (7) always asks about new sites - he memorizes sites in
TV ads and magazines and asks if he can go see them. Then look at it
with him (or the 17 year old does :-} ). If it's one he likes we
add it to his start page. When he just wants to look specific things
up one of us will searh with him. He likes using Yahooligans.
The older ones (12 and 17) pretty much surf as they wish. We've
never had a problem with any of the kids winding up on a "bad" page.
Guess we've been lucky . . . :-}
Neopets ( http://www.neopets.com ) is a good site (our whole family
does this one). You "adopt" pets (all fictional animals - for
instance, one of mine is a Grrral - basically a Tyranosaurau Rex.
:-D You can feed them, play games for Neopoints ("money"), can have
a bank account, can buy and sell stocks, can own a shop and buy from
others' shops, and so much more. (Just check it out. :-} )
Power Pets ( http://www.powerpets.com ) which teaches about caring
for animals as well as being fun - you "adopt" pets but they are
"real" animals (not created for the game like on Neopets) like dogs
and foxes and owls and many more. You can play games (not as many as
on Neopets but they are slowly growing) for power points ("money"),
have a bank account, you can have your own shops and buy from other
people's shops, you can join neighborhoods, you can publish books
(well, you submit them for publication) that you and other players
can then read, and much more.
Millsberry ( http://www.millsberry.com ) is a little bit different.
You create a character (human) and play as that character but it's
not interactive/live action like Disney VMK or MapleStory. You can
play games for "money" (as well as building other characteristics but
I can't remember the names of them just now), have a bank account, go
to school, read books, buy costumes and clothes for your character,
choose a neighborhood and "build" a house (you start with three rooms
but can now add to that), create music mixes and more.
There's a lot at Disney, including a nice little game/quiz about
online safety. I cant remember the exact URL - something like
http://go.disney.com .
My grandson loves NickJr.com ( http://nickjr.com ) and Sesame Street
(I think it's http://sesamestreet.com but I'm not sure).
I know there are others but that's all I can think of at the moment.
Debbie :-D
GrandMammaLlama@...
family member (and the neighborhood kids who visit regularly and
whose parents give the OK :-D ) and set individual start pages with
picture links to our younger kids favorite sites. (My 17 year old
thought it was cool and set up her own as well.)
It's just simple html (we name each person's with their own name, ie:
zack.html) in a specific folder on the C drive. Then you go to
preferences and set your start page to that file. VERY simple and
VERY effective. (I love profiles! We each have our own bookmarks,
too, because of having them. I have a HUGE file and everyone else
innthe family has a smaller one, so it saves them having to go
through my stuff to get to their own. :-} )
We don't specifically sit there and monitor every second that they
are on but we have all of the computers in the front room (except my
daughter's - we recently ran a line to her room and she sometimes
goes online in her room and sometimes in the front room) so it's
easily seen by everyone in the room. (They often bounce back and
forth between each other's computers checking out what they are each
on.) They love playing games with each other and really love those
interactive sites where you create a play a character and interact
with other characters - we've recently discovered Disney's Virtual
Magic Kingdom ( http://vmk.disney.go.com ) and the older kids like
MapleStory (do NOT let younger kids onn this one - the content is OK
but many of the players are not very nice. (The Disney one has a
limited allowable vocabulary and is policed for appropriate
behavior.) There is another one that I wanted to have them try
because it was recommended a while ago by homeschoolers (before they
got interested in these kind of games) as a safe and fun game but I
had it bookmarked on my old laptop (which blew it's motherboard)
where I can't currently access it. :-{
My youngest (7) always asks about new sites - he memorizes sites in
TV ads and magazines and asks if he can go see them. Then look at it
with him (or the 17 year old does :-} ). If it's one he likes we
add it to his start page. When he just wants to look specific things
up one of us will searh with him. He likes using Yahooligans.
The older ones (12 and 17) pretty much surf as they wish. We've
never had a problem with any of the kids winding up on a "bad" page.
Guess we've been lucky . . . :-}
Neopets ( http://www.neopets.com ) is a good site (our whole family
does this one). You "adopt" pets (all fictional animals - for
instance, one of mine is a Grrral - basically a Tyranosaurau Rex.
:-D You can feed them, play games for Neopoints ("money"), can have
a bank account, can buy and sell stocks, can own a shop and buy from
others' shops, and so much more. (Just check it out. :-} )
Power Pets ( http://www.powerpets.com ) which teaches about caring
for animals as well as being fun - you "adopt" pets but they are
"real" animals (not created for the game like on Neopets) like dogs
and foxes and owls and many more. You can play games (not as many as
on Neopets but they are slowly growing) for power points ("money"),
have a bank account, you can have your own shops and buy from other
people's shops, you can join neighborhoods, you can publish books
(well, you submit them for publication) that you and other players
can then read, and much more.
Millsberry ( http://www.millsberry.com ) is a little bit different.
You create a character (human) and play as that character but it's
not interactive/live action like Disney VMK or MapleStory. You can
play games for "money" (as well as building other characteristics but
I can't remember the names of them just now), have a bank account, go
to school, read books, buy costumes and clothes for your character,
choose a neighborhood and "build" a house (you start with three rooms
but can now add to that), create music mixes and more.
There's a lot at Disney, including a nice little game/quiz about
online safety. I cant remember the exact URL - something like
http://go.disney.com .
My grandson loves NickJr.com ( http://nickjr.com ) and Sesame Street
(I think it's http://sesamestreet.com but I'm not sure).
I know there are others but that's all I can think of at the moment.
Debbie :-D
GrandMammaLlama@...
Joanne
Debbie...
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! Your post was very
informative to me and I really appreciate it.
My girls will LOVE that Disney interactive game! (I checked it out,
it looks like fun! I think I may play for a while before I have to
share with them! LOL)
Isn't it amazing how the kids today are so comfortable with a
computer. I don't know about all of you but I wasn't even allowed to
touch the stereo when I was a kid. LOL
Joanne
--- In [email protected], "Debbie Mitchell"
<GrandMammaLlama@k...> wrote:
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! Your post was very
informative to me and I really appreciate it.
My girls will LOVE that Disney interactive game! (I checked it out,
it looks like fun! I think I may play for a while before I have to
share with them! LOL)
Isn't it amazing how the kids today are so comfortable with a
computer. I don't know about all of you but I wasn't even allowed to
touch the stereo when I was a kid. LOL
Joanne
--- In [email protected], "Debbie Mitchell"
<GrandMammaLlama@k...> wrote:
> We use Firefox and Netscape browsers and set up profiles for eachwith
> family member (and the neighborhood kids who visit regularly and
> whose parents give the OK :-D ) and set individual start pages
> picture links to our younger kids favorite sites. (My 17 year oldie:
> thought it was cool and set up her own as well.)
>
> It's just simple html (we name each person's with their own name,
> zack.html) in a specific folder on the C drive. Then you go tobookmarks,
> preferences and set your start page to that file. VERY simple and
> VERY effective. (I love profiles! We each have our own
> too, because of having them. I have a HUGE file and everyone elsemy
> innthe family has a smaller one, so it saves them having to go
> through my stuff to get to their own. :-} )
>
> We don't specifically sit there and monitor every second that they
> are on but we have all of the computers in the front room (except
> daughter's - we recently ran a line to her room and she sometimeseach
> goes online in her room and sometimes in the front room) so it's
> easily seen by everyone in the room. (They often bounce back and
> forth between each other's computers checking out what they are
> on.) They love playing games with each other and really lovethose
> interactive sites where you create a play a character and interactOK
> with other characters - we've recently discovered Disney's Virtual
> Magic Kingdom ( http://vmk.disney.go.com ) and the older kids like
> MapleStory (do NOT let younger kids onn this one - the content is
> but many of the players are not very nice. (The Disney one has athey
> limited allowable vocabulary and is policed for appropriate
> behavior.) There is another one that I wanted to have them try
> because it was recommended a while ago by homeschoolers (before
> got interested in these kind of games) as a safe and fun game butI
> had it bookmarked on my old laptop (which blew it's motherboard)in
> where I can't currently access it. :-{
>
> My youngest (7) always asks about new sites - he memorizes sites
> TV ads and magazines and asks if he can go see them. Then look atit
> with him (or the 17 year old does :-} ). If it's one he likes wethings
> add it to his start page. When he just wants to look specific
> up one of us will searh with him. He likes using Yahooligans.page.
>
> The older ones (12 and 17) pretty much surf as they wish. We've
> never had a problem with any of the kids winding up on a "bad"
> Guess we've been lucky . . . :-}family
>
> Neopets ( http://www.neopets.com ) is a good site (our whole
> does this one). You "adopt" pets (all fictional animals - forRex.
> instance, one of mine is a Grrral - basically a Tyranosaurau
> :-D You can feed them, play games for Neopoints ("money"), canhave
> a bank account, can buy and sell stocks, can own a shop and buyfrom
> others' shops, and so much more. (Just check it out. :-} )dogs
>
> Power Pets ( http://www.powerpets.com ) which teaches about caring
> for animals as well as being fun - you "adopt" pets but they are
> "real" animals (not created for the game like on Neopets) like
> and foxes and owls and many more. You can play games (not as manyas
> on Neopets but they are slowly growing) for power points("money"),
> have a bank account, you can have your own shops and buy fromother
> people's shops, you can join neighborhoods, you can publish booksdifferent.
> (well, you submit them for publication) that you and other players
> can then read, and much more.
>
> Millsberry ( http://www.millsberry.com ) is a little bit
> You create a character (human) and play as that character but it'scan
> not interactive/live action like Disney VMK or MapleStory. You
> play games for "money" (as well as building other characteristicsbut
> I can't remember the names of them just now), have a bank account,go
> to school, read books, buy costumes and clothes for yourcharacter,
> choose a neighborhood and "build" a house (you start with threerooms
> but can now add to that), create music mixes and more.Street
>
> There's a lot at Disney, including a nice little game/quiz about
> online safety. I cant remember the exact URL - something like
> http://go.disney.com .
>
> My grandson loves NickJr.com ( http://nickjr.com ) and Sesame
> (I think it's http://sesamestreet.com but I'm not sure).moment.
>
> I know there are others but that's all I can think of at the
>
>
> Debbie :-D
> GrandMammaLlama@k...
Rod Thomas
My son accidently stumbled onto a porn site by typing in the address
wrong.
The images were immediate. I have a problem with the fact that these
images are permanently etched in his mind. They were disturbing for him
(and me!). Shouldn't we be protecting them from this?
Just a thought.
Flyerkat
-----Original Message-----
We have no
computer limits, and never have.
I don't check up on my children and often times, they
are on the computer when I am not at home or I am
asleep. We also don't have "net nanny" or any of the
other parental controls on our computer. One time our
son happened upon a porn site and it was no big deal.
He was like "whoa!", told us, we talked about it a bit
(I showed him how sometimes searching for something
something non-sexual can turn up porn), but its really
no big deal in our home.
wrong.
The images were immediate. I have a problem with the fact that these
images are permanently etched in his mind. They were disturbing for him
(and me!). Shouldn't we be protecting them from this?
Just a thought.
Flyerkat
-----Original Message-----
We have no
computer limits, and never have.
I don't check up on my children and often times, they
are on the computer when I am not at home or I am
asleep. We also don't have "net nanny" or any of the
other parental controls on our computer. One time our
son happened upon a porn site and it was no big deal.
He was like "whoa!", told us, we talked about it a bit
(I showed him how sometimes searching for something
something non-sexual can turn up porn), but its really
no big deal in our home.
Debbie Mitchell
On 29 Sep 2005 at 1:09, Joanne wrote:
Disney one looks like it might be one of the worst . . .) is that
they are ADDICTIVE!!!! It's really fun, though, when I have my two
boys and a neighbor all on computers in the front room and my
daughter on her computer in her room - all playing the same game with
each other! The age range is 7 to 17 - all having a blast.
And my daughter's best friend (in Texas - we're in Alabama) will
usually get on at the same time and play, too.
It's just so cool to me. :-D
I'm planning on getting webcams for all of the computers (we have
one) for Christmas - family conferences would be so cool! Four
computers here, my brother five miles away, my sister nearly 500
miles away and my aunt nearly 900 miles away . . . my usins kids in
Texas and my kids in Alabama . . .
I get so carried away . . . we're SUCH a computer addicted family!
Our kids get on as soon as they can sit up - we even have baby games
(press any key and get a random picture and sound) so we start 'em
early. :-}
Debbie :-D
GrandMammaLlama@...
> Debbie...Glad to help. :-D The only problem with some of these (and the
>
> Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! Your post was very
> informative to me and I really appreciate it.
Disney one looks like it might be one of the worst . . .) is that
they are ADDICTIVE!!!! It's really fun, though, when I have my two
boys and a neighbor all on computers in the front room and my
daughter on her computer in her room - all playing the same game with
each other! The age range is 7 to 17 - all having a blast.
And my daughter's best friend (in Texas - we're in Alabama) will
usually get on at the same time and play, too.
It's just so cool to me. :-D
I'm planning on getting webcams for all of the computers (we have
one) for Christmas - family conferences would be so cool! Four
computers here, my brother five miles away, my sister nearly 500
miles away and my aunt nearly 900 miles away . . . my usins kids in
Texas and my kids in Alabama . . .
I get so carried away . . . we're SUCH a computer addicted family!
Our kids get on as soon as they can sit up - we even have baby games
(press any key and get a random picture and sound) so we start 'em
early. :-}
Debbie :-D
GrandMammaLlama@...
Joyce Fetteroll
On Sep 28, 2005, at 11:02 PM, Rod Thomas wrote:
realized what he was seeing?
How we react can change how they view an experience.
Was he upset or confused? If he was upset, why was he upset?
Even if there are parental controls, they can't filter out
everything. How will you react, how will you help him get what he
wants when something he doesn't want slips through?
A gasp of horror will color the experience differently than a laugh
and "Oh, that certainly isn't what you were trying to find. Let's try
to get you where you wanted to go."
Give him the skills to get rid of stuff he doesn't want to see by
clicking the close box and make sure he's confident that he can
always come to you for comfort. If he sees something upsetting and he
knows if he tells you it's going to upset you he's less likely to
tell you. Be calm :-) Be useful to him :-)
Joyce
Answers to common unschooling questions: http://home.earthlink.net/
~fetteroll/rejoycing/
Weekly writing prompts: [email protected]
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> They were disturbing for himHow did he react when he saw them? How did you react when you
> (and me!). Shouldn't we be protecting them from this?
realized what he was seeing?
How we react can change how they view an experience.
Was he upset or confused? If he was upset, why was he upset?
Even if there are parental controls, they can't filter out
everything. How will you react, how will you help him get what he
wants when something he doesn't want slips through?
A gasp of horror will color the experience differently than a laugh
and "Oh, that certainly isn't what you were trying to find. Let's try
to get you where you wanted to go."
Give him the skills to get rid of stuff he doesn't want to see by
clicking the close box and make sure he's confident that he can
always come to you for comfort. If he sees something upsetting and he
knows if he tells you it's going to upset you he's less likely to
tell you. Be calm :-) Be useful to him :-)
Joyce
Answers to common unschooling questions: http://home.earthlink.net/
~fetteroll/rejoycing/
Weekly writing prompts: [email protected]
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/28/2005 11:50:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
flyerrod@... writes:
My son accidently stumbled onto a porn site by typing in the address
wrong.
The images were immediate. I have a problem with the fact that these
images are permanently etched in his mind. They were disturbing for him
(and me!). Shouldn't we be protecting them from this?
Just a thought.
Flyerkat
I have done that as well... sometimes it's as simple as .com, .gov, .net,
.org that can bring up an unwanted site. Imagine my horror when my mother and a
friend were here and I went to look up a recipe off of the BJ's Wholesale
website... and I forgot a letter. And those pictures DO come up fast. Why can't
some of the kiddie sites graphics come up that fast?
Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
Yeats
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flyerrod@... writes:
My son accidently stumbled onto a porn site by typing in the address
wrong.
The images were immediate. I have a problem with the fact that these
images are permanently etched in his mind. They were disturbing for him
(and me!). Shouldn't we be protecting them from this?
Just a thought.
Flyerkat
I have done that as well... sometimes it's as simple as .com, .gov, .net,
.org that can bring up an unwanted site. Imagine my horror when my mother and a
friend were here and I went to look up a recipe off of the BJ's Wholesale
website... and I forgot a letter. And those pictures DO come up fast. Why can't
some of the kiddie sites graphics come up that fast?
Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
Yeats
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/29/2005 9:49:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
GrandMammaLlama@... writes:
I'm planning on getting webcams for all of the computers (we have
one) for Christmas - family conferences would be so cool! Four
computers here, my brother five miles away, my sister nearly 500
miles away and my aunt nearly 900 miles away . . . my usins kids in
Texas and my kids in Alabama . . .
I have to say, this is a wonderful thing... My brother was over in Iraq in
2003-2004, and near the end of his time, when things calmed down a LITTLE over
there and the Army was more established, they had webcams for the soldiers.
The most wonderful experience was, he got to "spend" Christmas Eve with us.
And when there were things going on over there, he is with the 101st Airborne,
and we be on pins and needles with worry, he'd email and say he'd be on at
X-time and we could see him. Such a relief it was. He introduced us to some of
his buddies too. We'd all be in conference chat (my aunt and uncle, my
parents, us, sometimes my grandmother).
Great way to stay connected.
Jenny
Mom to Danny, Kelsey and Evelyn
Happily homeschooling in Greenfield
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Learning is a treasure that will follow its owner everywhere. ~Chinese
Proverb
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GrandMammaLlama@... writes:
I'm planning on getting webcams for all of the computers (we have
one) for Christmas - family conferences would be so cool! Four
computers here, my brother five miles away, my sister nearly 500
miles away and my aunt nearly 900 miles away . . . my usins kids in
Texas and my kids in Alabama . . .
I have to say, this is a wonderful thing... My brother was over in Iraq in
2003-2004, and near the end of his time, when things calmed down a LITTLE over
there and the Army was more established, they had webcams for the soldiers.
The most wonderful experience was, he got to "spend" Christmas Eve with us.
And when there were things going on over there, he is with the 101st Airborne,
and we be on pins and needles with worry, he'd email and say he'd be on at
X-time and we could see him. Such a relief it was. He introduced us to some of
his buddies too. We'd all be in conference chat (my aunt and uncle, my
parents, us, sometimes my grandmother).
Great way to stay connected.
Jenny
Mom to Danny, Kelsey and Evelyn
Happily homeschooling in Greenfield
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Learning is a treasure that will follow its owner everywhere. ~Chinese
Proverb
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/29/2005 11:11:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Saulithyia@... writes:
I have done that as well... sometimes it's as simple as .com, .gov, .net,
.org that can bring up an unwanted site.
*****************
I have a girlfriend that works for a company that is contracted by the
government. They regularly get info off of sites like whitehouse.gov. Of course,
the dotcom version is porn. She said about once a month in her modern
cubicle office space, someone goes "AAAAAAHHHHHH" and the whole office says in
unison "dot GOV!!!! dot GOV!!!!".
Leslie in SC
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Saulithyia@... writes:
I have done that as well... sometimes it's as simple as .com, .gov, .net,
.org that can bring up an unwanted site.
*****************
I have a girlfriend that works for a company that is contracted by the
government. They regularly get info off of sites like whitehouse.gov. Of course,
the dotcom version is porn. She said about once a month in her modern
cubicle office space, someone goes "AAAAAAHHHHHH" and the whole office says in
unison "dot GOV!!!! dot GOV!!!!".
Leslie in SC
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/29/2005 1:35:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Leslie530@... writes:
I have a girlfriend that works for a company that is contracted by the
government. They regularly get info off of sites like whitehouse.gov. Of
course,
the dotcom version is porn. She said about once a month in her modern
cubicle office space, someone goes "AAAAAAHHHHHH" and the whole office says
in
unison "dot GOV!!!! dot GOV!!!!".
LOL!!! That's kind of funny... I can picture that. I remember doing a
research paper in college on Angels and their history, and doing a search online.
This was before there were all the filters and such, pre-Google... and I had a
hard time finding anything DECENT...
Jenny
Mom to Danny, Kelsey and Evelyn
Happily homeschooling in Greenfield
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Learning is a treasure that will follow its owner everywhere. ~Chinese
Proverb
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Leslie530@... writes:
I have a girlfriend that works for a company that is contracted by the
government. They regularly get info off of sites like whitehouse.gov. Of
course,
the dotcom version is porn. She said about once a month in her modern
cubicle office space, someone goes "AAAAAAHHHHHH" and the whole office says
in
unison "dot GOV!!!! dot GOV!!!!".
LOL!!! That's kind of funny... I can picture that. I remember doing a
research paper in college on Angels and their history, and doing a search online.
This was before there were all the filters and such, pre-Google... and I had a
hard time finding anything DECENT...
Jenny
Mom to Danny, Kelsey and Evelyn
Happily homeschooling in Greenfield
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Learning is a treasure that will follow its owner everywhere. ~Chinese
Proverb
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/29/2005 11:11:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Saulithyia@... writes:
My son accidently stumbled onto a porn site by typing in the address
wrong.
The images were immediate. I have a problem with the fact that these
images are permanently etched in his mind. They were disturbing for him
(and me!). Shouldn't we be protecting them from this?
Just a thought.
Flyerkat
**************
I think it depends on the child. If he or she is sensitive to these types
of things then you might need to help him/her avoid them. To me it is no
different than me not taking my easily scared children to the library Halloween
party.
The thing is to discuss it. You might say that there are ways to prevent
bringing up unwanted sites but it will block some he might want to see. Work
together.
When my kids wanted to see the Penguin movie, I said "I hear there are scary
parts. My idea is to wait until it is on DVD so we can fast forward through
them. What do you think?" They cheerfully agreed.
A child that has a trusting relationship will know you are looking out for
*his* sensitivities and won't regard it as censorship or control. But these
sites can also lead to good discussions. I would consider the child's needs
and maturity levels and if you are going to be right there to talk about it
or not.
Leslie in SC
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Saulithyia@... writes:
My son accidently stumbled onto a porn site by typing in the address
wrong.
The images were immediate. I have a problem with the fact that these
images are permanently etched in his mind. They were disturbing for him
(and me!). Shouldn't we be protecting them from this?
Just a thought.
Flyerkat
**************
I think it depends on the child. If he or she is sensitive to these types
of things then you might need to help him/her avoid them. To me it is no
different than me not taking my easily scared children to the library Halloween
party.
The thing is to discuss it. You might say that there are ways to prevent
bringing up unwanted sites but it will block some he might want to see. Work
together.
When my kids wanted to see the Penguin movie, I said "I hear there are scary
parts. My idea is to wait until it is on DVD so we can fast forward through
them. What do you think?" They cheerfully agreed.
A child that has a trusting relationship will know you are looking out for
*his* sensitivities and won't regard it as censorship or control. But these
sites can also lead to good discussions. I would consider the child's needs
and maturity levels and if you are going to be right there to talk about it
or not.
Leslie in SC
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Daniel MacIntyre
I heard that the owners of that site changed it - apparently it was
getting too uncomfortable for them.
getting too uncomfortable for them.
On 9/29/05, Leslie530@... <Leslie530@...> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/29/2005 11:11:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Saulithyia@... writes:
>
> I have done that as well... sometimes it's as simple as .com, .gov, .net,
> .org that can bring up an unwanted site.
>
>
> *****************
>
> I have a girlfriend that works for a company that is contracted by the
> government. They regularly get info off of sites like whitehouse.gov. Of course,
> the dotcom version is porn. She said about once a month in her modern
> cubicle office space, someone goes "AAAAAAHHHHHH" and the whole office says in
> unison "dot GOV!!!! dot GOV!!!!".
>
> Leslie in SC
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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Daniel
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Brandie
--- Rod Thomas <flyerrod@...> wrote:
etched in his mind.
family it wasn't/isn't a big deal -- my son said
"whoa!", told me about it (while laughing, and in more
of "guess what funny/gross thing I found" way), and we
talked about it. No biggie.
feel the best way is to deal with it, as it happens,
by talking about it. We don't freak about it at our
home. I share the facts and offer a bit of my
opinion. And, my son (at this point in his life)
doesn't want to stumble on these sites, so I gave him
information that would help avoid it.
On a side note, one time I was trying to access a
website for a zoo (I think it was the San Diego zoo)
on a computer with parental controls set. I was
denied access to the site -- apparently it was not an
approved site.
Brandie
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> The images were immediate. I have a problem withYou have no way of knowing that they are permanently
> the fact that these
> images are permanently etched in his mind.
etched in his mind.
> TheyWhat was his reaction? How did you react? In our
> were disturbing for him
> (and me!).
family it wasn't/isn't a big deal -- my son said
"whoa!", told me about it (while laughing, and in more
of "guess what funny/gross thing I found" way), and we
talked about it. No biggie.
> Shouldn't we be protecting them fromI don't use protection, like parental controls. I
> this?
feel the best way is to deal with it, as it happens,
by talking about it. We don't freak about it at our
home. I share the facts and offer a bit of my
opinion. And, my son (at this point in his life)
doesn't want to stumble on these sites, so I gave him
information that would help avoid it.
On a side note, one time I was trying to access a
website for a zoo (I think it was the San Diego zoo)
on a computer with parental controls set. I was
denied access to the site -- apparently it was not an
approved site.
Brandie
http://tableforfive.blogspot.com
http://homemadeliving.blogspot.com
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--- Saulithyia@... wrote:
whitehouse site for a patron, I made the exact same
mistake. I commented that perhaps I should google it,
instead ;)
Kimba
Who enjoys the flexibility of the English language
(noun to verb and back again).
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>I work in a library and while trying to pull up the
> In a message dated 9/29/2005 1:35:02 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> Leslie530@... writes:
>
> I have a girlfriend that works for a company that
> is contracted by the
> government. They regularly get info off of sites
> like whitehouse.gov. Of
> course,
> the dotcom version is porn. She said about once a
> month in her modern
> cubicle office space, someone goes "AAAAAAHHHHHH"
> and the whole office says
> in
> unison "dot GOV!!!! dot GOV!!!!".
>
whitehouse site for a patron, I made the exact same
mistake. I commented that perhaps I should google it,
instead ;)
Kimba
Who enjoys the flexibility of the English language
(noun to verb and back again).
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