Ren Allen

THe question about kids that leave school with "only an 8th grade"
education prompted me to import this link. This is an extensive list
of elementary and H.S. drop outs that are well known. I think formal
education is highly overrated, eh?

http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/lists/dropouts.html

Think of the negative feelings and self-image that kids failing school
develop. I believe the reason many "drop outs" struggle, is all the
negativity surrounding their struggle in school. If those same kids
could have been free to explore the world on their own terms, the
negative self image would not be attached to a lack of education...or
rather, a self-education.

A few are strong enought to maintain their individuality and strength
after dropping out of school for various reasons, but many are bruised
and damaged, believing they failed, rather than the system failing THEM.

So it isn't the lack of formal education that is ever the problem, it
is the inability to SELF-educate that caused problems for some drop
outs. The damage is just too much by the time they finally leave.

Ren

John & Karen Buxcel

Hello wise unschoolers!
I'm Karen. Wife of 11 years to John. Proud mama of 3 boys, Saylor 6, Stone
4, and Sage 10 months.
We've knows since Saylor was a wee baby that we'd homeschool. As I became
more informed, I discovered that unschooling was such a natural progression
of the way we've lived our lives with our children from the beginning, so it
really just FEELS right. It's so freeing to think that we really can live
this way for as long as we want, not just until they turn the magic age of 5
and we have to turn them over to 'experts'.
We live in Sioux Falls, SD. Moved here about a year ago from Rapid City,
SD. Had a very hard time transitioning, but I think I'm finally feeling
settled.
I'm a DONA certified Doula, My passion is anything related to pregnancy,
birth and breastfeeding! Saylor was born in the hospital, Stone at home
with a midwife, and Sage at home unassisted. Huge advocate of home birth!
(for obvious reasons!)
I know I will have lots of questions of you all, and have already had
several of them answered, as I've been reading along for a while, now.
Looking forward to making some lasting relationships, as well! Bound to
happen! :)
Namaste,
Karen

--
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come
alive. And then go and do that. Because what the world needs is people who
have come alive."
- - Howard Thurman Whitman

John & Karen Buxcel

I was wondering if any of you had any suggestions on any gaming stuff that
would be appropriate for a 6yo (and also im sure the 4yo would want to
play).

And I mean, what system? and then, what games to go along with that system?
playstation, nintendo, gamecube, gameboy sp??????

it's all greek to me!

i think i'm ready to make the leap. saylor has a friend who has a
playstation 2 and he really likes to TRY to play it, but seems that most of
the games are too hard.

help!
karen

Brandie

My opinion is that Gamecube is more suitable for
younger children, when you compare it to the xbox and
PS2. I think that all the systems have easier games,
but the gamecube just seems less fragile than the
other two.

There are also a lot of the new "plug 'n play" type
games that are pretty good for young kids. I know my
4 year old has enjoyed one we bought (inexpensive,
under $20) with older games like Pac-man. He is
getting the Spongebob one for Christmas (there is also
a Spiderman one, Disney one, etc.).



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In a message dated 9/27/2005 6:41:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
buxcel@... writes:


And I mean, what system? and then, what games to go along with that system?
playstation, nintendo, gamecube, gameboy sp??????




We started with a gameboy and a simple game called Muppet Pinball (just like
pinball). That got lost and I'm sad about it as it was the only one I could
play!

We also have a gamecube. I think Nick's favorite game is Mario Kart. You
could only race yourself (time trials) and get the hang of it and not get
frustrated. He figured out Monkey Ball pretty quickly, too and I love that one
for the spatial aspect of it. Both of these are much harder on GameBoy.

If I had to do it all over, I think I would have started with the GameCube.

He just got Madagascar and he LOVES it. It might not be a good starter
because there is more figuring stuff out than just getting to play.

I'm ready for our next game.....I need help too!

Leslie in SC








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billyandjoanne

--- In [email protected], John & Karen Buxcel
<buxcel@s...> wrote:
> I was wondering if any of you had any suggestions on any gaming
stuff that would be appropriate for a 6yo (and also im sure the 4yo
would want to play).And I mean, what system? and then, what games to
go along with that system?>>>

We have PS2 and my newly turned 7 year old has been playing it isnce
we got it last year. Some of the games she can play without getting to
frustrated are Croc, Spryo, Crash Bandicoot, Tarzan, Bugs Life,
Dexters Lab, Land Before Time & Monsters Inc.

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In a message dated 9/27/2005 6:38:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
buxcel@... writes:

Namaste,
Karen

--
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come
alive. And then go and do that. Because what the world needs is people who
have come alive."
- - Howard Thurman Whitman




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Hi Karen! I LOVE your sig line! I think I might stick it up on my mirror.
:)

Leslie in SC


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John & Karen Buxcel

what are the 'plug and play' types and where do i get them? (besides
walmart, we're boycotting)

thanks for any info you can give!
karen

Brandie

> what are the 'plug and play' types and where do i
> get them? (besides
> walmart, we're boycotting)

The "plug 'n play" type" are everywhere....Walmart
does have them, but so does gaming stores like Game
Stop (where we seem to buy most of our gaming stuff).
And I am almost certain that Target and Kmart sell
them -- and I am pretty sure Best Buy does too. Of
course, you could always buy online (through these
stores or even others like Amazon).



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In a message dated 9/27/2005 6:42:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
buxcel@... writes:

I was wondering if any of you had any suggestions on any gaming stuff that
would be appropriate for a 6yo (and also im sure the 4yo would want to
play).

And I mean, what system? and then, what games to go along with that system?
playstation, nintendo, gamecube, gameboy sp??????



We have Nintendo, Super Nintendo, PS1 and Nintendo64... my oldest 2 (ages
5.5 and 3.5) prefer PS1 and Nintendo64 and play games like the Super Mario
games, Need for Speed (they just like driving the cars around), Crash Bandicoot
games, Spyro the Dragon games. My son likes some of the Star Wars race-type
games as well as Gauntlet (kind of a medieval-type game).

We don't have any of the new games systems, as these we've had over the
years pre-kids, and they work just fine, so I'm not so familiar with the newer
versions. My son prefers the challenges of some of the games, while my daughter
likes just moving things around. Great for working that hand-eye
coordination!

Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
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Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
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Brandie

> We have Nintendo, Super Nintendo, PS1 and
> Nintendo64...

I would agree that these older systems are good for
younger kids. And the games aren't as fragile, since
the games for the Nintendo ones are cartridges, rather
than disks. Gaming stores, such as Game Stop, sell
these systems and games used and they are fairly
inexpensive.



Brandie
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