Re: [unschoolingbasics] explaining unschooling
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>Danette - I'm not sure about your husband, but I can tell you how it went around here. I told dh that I was looking into unschooling, probably the way we (kids and I) were headed. Once I told him the basics that I had learned so far, he got to tell me what his concerns were. Then I headed back to the books and answered those concerns. Then he had more questions. So I read up on those and we talked about that. For my dh, my being able to tell him about real people that have been unschooling, and how they have handled things, has really helped him. And I should add, that my husband's questioning me about unschooling wasn't because he thought we shouldn't do it! It's just that I'm the one that had the time to study up on it, and he wanted to be briefed.
> Hi Diedre,
> Yes that is it. Also when trying to explain unschooling to DH ,who
> is very supprtive of homeschooling-, he was very uneasy about it. He
> is not a reader himself so I can't give him something to read on it
> unless it is very short. Any suggestions?
> Danette
>
Now I hear my husband answering questions about unschooling better than I could have answered those questions! I heard him tell someone that he thought our children should have a "cocktail party knowledge of literature." (That means he thinks they should be able to handle the references to various classical literature that would come up at a cocktail party attended by "educated" people. ) My husband explained that he realized that the stuff that he knows, that he thinks our children should learn, he actually learned when he was in college!
And do come to the Live and Learn Conference in St. Louis in October, Danette! My husband, Ken, will be there, along with lots of other men and their really nice families.
Deirdre
Angie Gray
Hi,
I read your post about unschooling basics and wondered if you could guide me as to where I could find out info on them. I haven't been able to find anything of substance that would really explain to me the priciples of how it works, I've only found opinions of how people feel about it. Thanks for any help you can give me. It sounds too hit and miss for us, but it could be that it just hasn't been explained properly. Thanks so much.
angie
I read your post about unschooling basics and wondered if you could guide me as to where I could find out info on them. I haven't been able to find anything of substance that would really explain to me the priciples of how it works, I've only found opinions of how people feel about it. Thanks for any help you can give me. It sounds too hit and miss for us, but it could be that it just hasn't been explained properly. Thanks so much.
angie
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Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] explaining unschooling
>
> Hi Diedre,
> Yes that is it. Also when trying to explain unschooling to DH ,who
> is very supprtive of homeschooling-, he was very uneasy about it. He
> is not a reader himself so I can't give him something to read on it
> unless it is very short. Any suggestions?
> Danette
>
Danette - I'm not sure about your husband, but I can tell you how it went around here. I told dh that I was looking into unschooling, probably the way we (kids and I) were headed. Once I told him the basics that I had learned so far, he got to tell me what his concerns were. Then I headed back to the books and answered those concerns. Then he had more questions. So I read up on those and we talked about that. For my dh, my being able to tell him about real people that have been unschooling, and how they have handled things, has really helped him. And I should add, that my husband's questioning me about unschooling wasn't because he thought we shouldn't do it! It's just that I'm the one that had the time to study up on it, and he wanted to be briefed.
Now I hear my husband answering questions about unschooling better than I could have answered those questions! I heard him tell someone that he thought our children should have a "cocktail party knowledge of literature." (That means he thinks they should be able to handle the references to various classical literature that would come up at a cocktail party attended by "educated" people. ) My husband explained that he realized that the stuff that he knows, that he thinks our children should learn, he actually learned when he was in college!
And do come to the Live and Learn Conference in St. Louis in October, Danette! My husband, Ken, will be there, along with lots of other men and their really nice families.
Deirdre
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soggyboysmom
--- In [email protected], "Angie Gray"
<snugasabug@b...> wrote:
dos and don'ts and 'shoulds' like other 'educational methods'.
Here's a list posted on another message board that someone wrote
summarizing the advice she was given when she was trying to figure
out how to start unschooling her DD. It really does cover a lot of
ground for thinking. Maybe it'll give you a place to start asking
questions.
1. There is really value in EVERYTHING in unschooling.
2. It's time for ME to de-school and examine all that I thought was
true about learning.
3. Initiate activities for me right now.
4. Leave her be for a while.
5. Connect with her where she NEEDS to be at this time in her life.
6. Join her in her world and use all of that time together as
starting points for great conversations.
7. Really *listen* to her thoughts about things.
8. Let her know that I want to learn about the world from HER eyes
and HER perspective.
9. Focus on Joy. Really. That's all I need to do right now. It's
vacation time in my home...bring on the Joy.
10. Do things for ME. Be curious. Ask questions and find answers.
Explore. Create. Build. Sing.
11. Unleash MY buried unschooling desires.
12. However many years she was in school, allow that many months (of
deschooling)
13. Treat her like a fun person rather than like a kid.
14. If I only look for academics I'll miss the real learning.
--Deb
<snugasabug@b...> wrote:
> Hi,It probably would sound hit and miss if you're expecting a list of
> I read your post about unschooling basics and wondered if you
>could guide me as to where I could find out info on them. I
>haven't been able to find anything of substance that would really
>explain to me the priciples of how it works, I've only found
>opinions of how people feel about it. Thanks for any help you can
>give me. It sounds too hit and miss for us, but it could be that
>it just hasn't been explained properly. Thanks so much.
> angie
dos and don'ts and 'shoulds' like other 'educational methods'.
Here's a list posted on another message board that someone wrote
summarizing the advice she was given when she was trying to figure
out how to start unschooling her DD. It really does cover a lot of
ground for thinking. Maybe it'll give you a place to start asking
questions.
1. There is really value in EVERYTHING in unschooling.
2. It's time for ME to de-school and examine all that I thought was
true about learning.
3. Initiate activities for me right now.
4. Leave her be for a while.
5. Connect with her where she NEEDS to be at this time in her life.
6. Join her in her world and use all of that time together as
starting points for great conversations.
7. Really *listen* to her thoughts about things.
8. Let her know that I want to learn about the world from HER eyes
and HER perspective.
9. Focus on Joy. Really. That's all I need to do right now. It's
vacation time in my home...bring on the Joy.
10. Do things for ME. Be curious. Ask questions and find answers.
Explore. Create. Build. Sing.
11. Unleash MY buried unschooling desires.
12. However many years she was in school, allow that many months (of
deschooling)
13. Treat her like a fun person rather than like a kid.
14. If I only look for academics I'll miss the real learning.
--Deb
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Angie Gray <snugasabug@...>
Hi,
I read your post about unschooling basics and wondered if you could
guide me as
to where I could find out info on them. I haven't been able to find
anything of
substance that would really explain to me the priciples of how it
works, I've
only found opinions of how people feel about it. Thanks for any help
you can
give me. It sounds too hit and miss for us, but it could be that it
just hasn't
been explained properly. Thanks so much.
-=-=-=-=-
Angie,
First, I apologize for not responding sooner. I've had my mind
elsewhere lately. Ren's computer's been down, so she's been unavailable
to any of us lately.
The best thing I can tell you is to read here for a while---and to read
the archives.
You can also go to UnschoolingDiscussion@yahoogroups and read there.
Unschooling.info/forum is another good place to hang out. Someone here
may have the address for the archives of the now-defunct
unschooling.com message boards.
Sandra's site www.SandraDodd.com/unschooling is a wealth of info---not
just from Sandra, but from many, many excellent writers who really
understand unschooling.
I have an "Unschooling Basics" letter that I usually send out to
newbies in my state. I'll forward it here again in a minute.
To me the principle is simply that children are hard-wired to learn.
They crave learning. They will search out the best paths for them if
given free choice and adequate information. They *want* to be good
people and live stimulating lives. They can be trusted and are
deserving of respect.
I don't think that's very "hit & miss"---but it may not be what you're
looking for.
If that doesn't cut it, maybe you could be more specific?
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
October 6-9, 2005
http://liveandlearnconference.org
From: Angie Gray <snugasabug@...>
Hi,
I read your post about unschooling basics and wondered if you could
guide me as
to where I could find out info on them. I haven't been able to find
anything of
substance that would really explain to me the priciples of how it
works, I've
only found opinions of how people feel about it. Thanks for any help
you can
give me. It sounds too hit and miss for us, but it could be that it
just hasn't
been explained properly. Thanks so much.
-=-=-=-=-
Angie,
First, I apologize for not responding sooner. I've had my mind
elsewhere lately. Ren's computer's been down, so she's been unavailable
to any of us lately.
The best thing I can tell you is to read here for a while---and to read
the archives.
You can also go to UnschoolingDiscussion@yahoogroups and read there.
Unschooling.info/forum is another good place to hang out. Someone here
may have the address for the archives of the now-defunct
unschooling.com message boards.
Sandra's site www.SandraDodd.com/unschooling is a wealth of info---not
just from Sandra, but from many, many excellent writers who really
understand unschooling.
I have an "Unschooling Basics" letter that I usually send out to
newbies in my state. I'll forward it here again in a minute.
To me the principle is simply that children are hard-wired to learn.
They crave learning. They will search out the best paths for them if
given free choice and adequate information. They *want* to be good
people and live stimulating lives. They can be trusted and are
deserving of respect.
I don't think that's very "hit & miss"---but it may not be what you're
looking for.
If that doesn't cut it, maybe you could be more specific?
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
October 6-9, 2005
http://liveandlearnconference.org
Julie-TX
Kelly;
could you please send me that letter too? I am very
new to this....and all I really know is that what I
was doing is exhausiting me, my son, and making me
crazy.
Julie
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could you please send me that letter too? I am very
new to this....and all I really know is that what I
was doing is exhausiting me, my son, and making me
crazy.
Julie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angie Gray <snugasabug@...>
> Hi,
> I read your post about unschooling basics and
> wondered if you could
> guide me as
> to where I could find out info on them. I haven't
> been able to find
> anything of
> substance that would really explain to me the
> priciples of how it
> works, I've
> only found opinions of how people feel about it.
> Thanks for any help
> you can
> give me. It sounds too hit and miss for us, but it
> could be that it
> just hasn't
> been explained properly. Thanks so much.
>
> -=-=-=-=-
>
> Angie,
>
> First, I apologize for not responding sooner. I've
> had my mind
> elsewhere lately. Ren's computer's been down, so
> she's been unavailable
> to any of us lately.
>
> The best thing I can tell you is to read here for a
> while---and to read
> the archives.
>
> You can also go to UnschoolingDiscussion@yahoogroups
> and read there.
> Unschooling.info/forum is another good place to hang
> out. Someone here
> may have the address for the archives of the
> now-defunct
> unschooling.com message boards.
>
> Sandra's site www.SandraDodd.com/unschooling is a
> wealth of info---not
> just from Sandra, but from many, many excellent
> writers who really
> understand unschooling.
>
> I have an "Unschooling Basics" letter that I usually
> send out to
> newbies in my state. I'll forward it here again in a
> minute.
>
> To me the principle is simply that children are
> hard-wired to learn.
> They crave learning. They will search out the best
> paths for them if
> given free choice and adequate information. They
> *want* to be good
> people and live stimulating lives. They can be
> trusted and are
> deserving of respect.
>
> I don't think that's very "hit & miss"---but it may
> not be what you're
> looking for.
>
> If that doesn't cut it, maybe you could be more
> specific?
>
> ~Kelly
>
> Kelly Lovejoy
> Conference Coordinator
> Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
> October 6-9, 2005
> http://liveandlearnconference.org
>
>
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Hilary
Me too please! I'm also pretty new, and would welcome the letter too!
Thanks,
Hilary
--- In [email protected], Julie-TX <julie3k2c1h@y...>
wrote:
Thanks,
Hilary
--- In [email protected], Julie-TX <julie3k2c1h@y...>
wrote:
> Kelly;
>
> could you please send me that letter too? I am very
> new to this....and all I really know is that what I
> was doing is exhausiting me, my son, and making me
> crazy.
>
> Julie