Re:Healing
Barrie
Hi I'm Barrie
It seems that this unschooling journey heals me more everyday and we've only just begun! As I unschool my children ages 3 and 9 months I unschool myself. I have so much more self-trust, generosity, and joy. I grew up in a rigid household and hated school until college and Grad school. It is a blessing to just let go of layers and layers of false junk. have found it difficult to be around parents who do not unschool (i.e. most people I know.) It feels hurtful to be judged as a neglient parent when you have given how you parent/school literally hundreds of hours of thought. It seems at least among the preschool set that setting ridiculous limits and constant time-outs are the standard thing. Already I'm getting asked all the time about my three-year old who is not potty trained, still wants to pretend nurse and has no bedtime etc etc. Everyone around me is filling out applications for schools and we're just learning all the time! Yes, the judgement goes both ways! Yesterday we painted mandalas, made a cake that looked like my husband (Chocolate sprinkles are great for beards), and made valentines. (Ruben wasn't ready for V-day to be over yet and Valentines stuff is ridiculously cheap after the fact.Barrie
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It seems that this unschooling journey heals me more everyday and we've only just begun! As I unschool my children ages 3 and 9 months I unschool myself. I have so much more self-trust, generosity, and joy. I grew up in a rigid household and hated school until college and Grad school. It is a blessing to just let go of layers and layers of false junk. have found it difficult to be around parents who do not unschool (i.e. most people I know.) It feels hurtful to be judged as a neglient parent when you have given how you parent/school literally hundreds of hours of thought. It seems at least among the preschool set that setting ridiculous limits and constant time-outs are the standard thing. Already I'm getting asked all the time about my three-year old who is not potty trained, still wants to pretend nurse and has no bedtime etc etc. Everyone around me is filling out applications for schools and we're just learning all the time! Yes, the judgement goes both ways! Yesterday we painted mandalas, made a cake that looked like my husband (Chocolate sprinkles are great for beards), and made valentines. (Ruben wasn't ready for V-day to be over yet and Valentines stuff is ridiculously cheap after the fact.Barrie
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Dana Matt
Already
and it's still ok with us :)
Dana
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> I'm getting asked all the time about my three-yearIn our family we have a 7 yo who is real nursing ;)
> old who is not potty trained, still wants to pretend
> nurse and has no bedtime etc etc.
and it's still ok with us :)
Dana
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Liz Stevens
really your 7 yo is still nursing? what is that like?
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From: Dana Matt
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Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Re:Healing
Already
> I'm getting asked all the time about my three-year
> old who is not potty trained, still wants to pretend
> nurse and has no bedtime etc etc.
In our family we have a 7 yo who is real nursing ;)
and it's still ok with us :)
Dana
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Dana Matt
> really your 7 yo is still nursing? what is thatBefore I had a nursing 7 yo, I couldn't imagine a
> like?
nursing 7 yo. Now it doesn't seem any weirder than a
nursing 1 yo or a nursing 4 yo. It just still seems
like nurturing and cuddling and offering comfort.
Dana
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Liz Stevens
I always was an extended nurser and *i was the one who ended the relationship. I know for sure if I hadn't made the decisions to wean I too would have been nursing up to that age. I don't think it is weird at all. In fact, I think it is sad that most people give in to societies thinking and wean so early. I felt nothing but pure joy while nursing my children and they all remember it which is so nice.
Liz
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Liz
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Ren Allen
" Yesterday we painted mandalas,
made a cake that looked like my husband (Chocolate sprinkles are
great for
beards), and made valentines. (Ruben wasn't ready for V-day to be
over yet and
Valentines stuff is ridiculously cheap after the fact.Barrie"
Sounds lovely!!
Isn't it great to live by your own light and not care if the rules
say it's a holiday or not? We have our OWN holidays around
here...sometimes a dolly gets a weekly Birthday for a while.:)
We've been into mandalas lately too...Sierra made a lovely one at
Unity last week. This inspired me to work on my drawing for a tattoo
I'm getting. As it turns out, I decided to create my own mandala,
which shall be permanently placed between my shoulder blades.:)
I love hearing about little ones that will never have to deal with
the baggage of school and coercive parenting...what a lovely gift
you're giving them.
Ren
made a cake that looked like my husband (Chocolate sprinkles are
great for
beards), and made valentines. (Ruben wasn't ready for V-day to be
over yet and
Valentines stuff is ridiculously cheap after the fact.Barrie"
Sounds lovely!!
Isn't it great to live by your own light and not care if the rules
say it's a holiday or not? We have our OWN holidays around
here...sometimes a dolly gets a weekly Birthday for a while.:)
We've been into mandalas lately too...Sierra made a lovely one at
Unity last week. This inspired me to work on my drawing for a tattoo
I'm getting. As it turns out, I decided to create my own mandala,
which shall be permanently placed between my shoulder blades.:)
I love hearing about little ones that will never have to deal with
the baggage of school and coercive parenting...what a lovely gift
you're giving them.
Ren
Sylvia Toyama
Our 4yo is still nursing -- to sleep at night and upon waking each morning. He'll still ask for some 'meemee' if he's stressed, too. He has consistently said he'll be ready to give it up when he's 10! I'm not sure I can go 10 yrs, but I know someday we'll all miss these years.
Andy was 3 and a few months before he toilet trained. I was beginning to worry he'd never get it right because he just never minded being 'wet' and was more than happy to change his clothes several times a day. At 8, he still has the same tendency to change clothes several times a day!
Sylvia
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Andy was 3 and a few months before he toilet trained. I was beginning to worry he'd never get it right because he just never minded being 'wet' and was more than happy to change his clothes several times a day. At 8, he still has the same tendency to change clothes several times a day!
Sylvia
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i cant say ,my healing story is directly a result to unschooling,,but it has
ALOT to do with it...
we had,had a string of to say the least depressing,srtessfull
situations,,lasting ,on going better part of 6 yrs..the stress was taking its toll on all of
us,,,when i decided to home school it was a result of the private school
closing january of the year,,not even finishing out the school year....
we as most started out with books,,books,,books,,,
we've relaxed wake up time,,books,,sleep time,,etc,,
my kids are calmer,,more curious,relaxed creatures,,,
except when they have a problem with the few people that feel home schooling
is all wrong,and feel the need to hassle them,,
they are doing great,,im alot more at peace with wher i am in life and @
,,dare i say,,40..lol..tis a good thing,,,
ALOT to do with it...
we had,had a string of to say the least depressing,srtessfull
situations,,lasting ,on going better part of 6 yrs..the stress was taking its toll on all of
us,,,when i decided to home school it was a result of the private school
closing january of the year,,not even finishing out the school year....
we as most started out with books,,books,,books,,,
we've relaxed wake up time,,books,,sleep time,,etc,,
my kids are calmer,,more curious,relaxed creatures,,,
except when they have a problem with the few people that feel home schooling
is all wrong,and feel the need to hassle them,,
they are doing great,,im alot more at peace with wher i am in life and @
,,dare i say,,40..lol..tis a good thing,,,
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TreeGoddess
On Feb 28, 2005, at 12:17 AM, Ren Allen wrote:
-=-Isn't it great to live by your own light and not
care if the rules say it's a holiday or not?-=-
Here's my cue to say that we still have our decorated xmas tree up and
lit. :D My children think it is so pretty and they gaze at it and see
the beauty in it daily even after being up for 2-1/2 months now (good
thing it's fake! ;'). Why not? It's being enjoyed and it's still
bringing joy. They told me that they don't ever want me to take it
down and I told them we could leave it up as long as they wanted! *S*
I cannot imagine even bothering to ASK my mom to leave our tree up --
I'd have been laughed at and belittled for thinking such a "dumb" thing
. . . "everybody" KNOWS you *have* to take it down. I'm so glad that I
can give this gift to my children -- and to me, too.
-Tracy-
"Yes, Peace *will* enter your life, but you
need to clear a spot for her to sit down."
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Maria Dorian
Angela, I loved your post! I know what you mean that there is
peace
peace
> in your house. That is how I feel toward my household as well.It's
> It 's peaceful and we are content. I also can relate with not
> really knowing how to discribe it in words. It's just such a
> special way to live your life, as I would think that God intented
> for it to be. Yet, so very different than most other people.
> just special and for me, I give God the glory for the part thatsharing
> unschooling has played in making that possible. Thanks for
> and I look forward to reading more posts from you...
>
> Much Love,
> Maria
Rodney and Rebecca Atherton
>He'll still ask for some 'meemee' if he's stressed, too.I was going to ask what your kids called nursing. I think it's so sweet how
they make up little words for it! My daughter called it "neeeee" and my son
called it "drink drink" (what is weird is he called a beverage a "drink" and
nursing he called "drink drink" I guess because there were two? LOL!)
Rebecca in Texas
Sylvia Toyama
Dan is the one who chose meemee for nursing -- I'd started out calling it milkie, and when he began talking 'meemee' was the closest he could come. It was such a cute word it just stuck. He's the only one of mine who nursed to talking age -- the only one who has nursed even a full year, and now we're up to four plus!
Sylvia
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Dana Matt
> >He'll still ask for some 'meemee' if he's stressed,My 7 yo now calls it Moo Moo, because that's what
> too.
>
> I was going to ask what your kids called nursing. I
> think it's so sweet how
> they make up little words for it!
Angelica called a bottle on an episode of rugrats when
she was pretending to be a baby. But when he was 2,
he told me "This is Milkey, and this is Tilkey, and
the are my BEST FRIENDS!" :)
Dana
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Sylvia Toyama
But when he was 2, he told me "This is Milkey, and this is Tilkey, and the are my BEST FRIENDS!" :)
Dana
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That is so sweet and funny!
Sylvia
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That is so sweet and funny!
Sylvia
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iksnolbay67
My ds would ask to nurse by saying "I do" (with the word "I" said in
a slightly drawn out way). We realized it came from my habit of
asking "Do you want to nurse?" as I prepped to feed him, which I had
been doing since day 1. When he started talking he decided to just
skip right the point!
Christine
--- In [email protected], "Rodney and Rebecca
Atherton" <rebeccawow@s...> wrote:
a slightly drawn out way). We realized it came from my habit of
asking "Do you want to nurse?" as I prepped to feed him, which I had
been doing since day 1. When he started talking he decided to just
skip right the point!
Christine
--- In [email protected], "Rodney and Rebecca
Atherton" <rebeccawow@s...> wrote:
>sweet how
> >He'll still ask for some 'meemee' if he's stressed, too.
>
> I was going to ask what your kids called nursing. I think it's so
> they make up little words for it! My daughter called it "neeeee"and my son
> called it "drink drink" (what is weird is he called a beveragea "drink" and
> nursing he called "drink drink" I guess because there were two?LOL!)
>
> Rebecca in Texas
Jenny Altenbach
Rodney and Rebecca Atherton wrote:
"boob" sometimes. Then he soon started saying "nurse!", pronounced
perfectly at 16 months old! It was so funny. We'd be out in public and
he'd be yelling "nurse! nurse!" He also yelled "switch sides!", again
pronouncing it perfectly. There was no discreet nursing with that boy.
Dd usually says "na na!" and she says "sides!" when she wants to switch
sides. Sometimes she just says "sides" when she wants to start nursing
(she did that at the pediatrician's office the other day--hilarious).
Jenny
>Ha ha. My ds called it "boo boo" for a while because I referred to my
> >He'll still ask for some 'meemee' if he's stressed, too.
>
> I was going to ask what your kids called nursing. I think it's so
> sweet how
> they make up little words for it! My daughter called it "neeeee" and
> my son
> called it "drink drink" (what is weird is he called a beverage a
> "drink" and
> nursing he called "drink drink" I guess because there were two? LOL!)
"boob" sometimes. Then he soon started saying "nurse!", pronounced
perfectly at 16 months old! It was so funny. We'd be out in public and
he'd be yelling "nurse! nurse!" He also yelled "switch sides!", again
pronouncing it perfectly. There was no discreet nursing with that boy.
Dd usually says "na na!" and she says "sides!" when she wants to switch
sides. Sometimes she just says "sides" when she wants to start nursing
(she did that at the pediatrician's office the other day--hilarious).
Jenny
>
Liz Stevens
Ah we had num num's,mee mee's na na's LOL. So cute.
Liz
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Liz
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In a message dated 3/1/2005 11:07:41 AM Canada Central Standard Time,
rosesgrow1@... writes:
all the time my 4 were babies,,,,nursing wasnt a workable option,,maybe if the
support was there.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
i found many other ways to nurture and enjoy my babies though....
following bugs in the back yard,,,
wee hour in the morning and rocking chairs...
and rachel and i would snuggle in the ''big comfy chair we had at the time
,,and sleep wound up around each other..she still likes our bed/bed room best,,
after my mom in '98and sis died,in '03,she had gotten to be very insecure,i
quit work totall outside the home toward the end of ''03,, and we did alot of
reconnecting she and i ,,she's alot mor calmer,,secure,,still doent sleep in
her room but hey there are alot of ''crash sites '' our bed.plalet on my
fllor,couch,,etc,etc.....
we all shared a bed at different times,,, not all at once,,lol,,,house full
of blanket hoggs,,lol,,
a cute thing happened last week ,,my oldest son who just turned 20...came
home one morning last week ,and woke me telling me about his morning (normal
thing to happen unless he is too tired)at work... he laided on the bed beside me ,<
not so normal,but sweet>,while he was talking ,,like he was being stelth or
something..lol...and i rubbed his moppy head and remember a wee little blonde
head .,.,.,.,.,.totally for got what he was talking about,,,
and Ren,,,,,yes,,they grow up sooooooo fast..my oldest is 20..my 2nd is 18
and engaged.to a sweet girl who could use about 10 years of deschooling,,,she
has such a difficult time with her parents,,mom especially...and mom is jealous
of ME!!!!,,,all the girl wants is to be listen to.and not judged ,or told how
wrong or stupid she is
..geeeeeeeezzzz..........................................
danel is 15-1/2,,and rachel is turning 12,the 22nd of this month,,
i hate that my older two were the guinea pigs for our mistakes,,,but it wasnt
all bad...and they still are loving caring young men..so tis all good..
off my soap box and going for coffee,,,>>june
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rosesgrow1@... writes:
>God do i feel like i missed out!!!!!!!,,my nerves stayed in such an uphevel
>
> Ah we had num num's,mee mee's na na's LOL. So cute.
>
> Liz
>
all the time my 4 were babies,,,,nursing wasnt a workable option,,maybe if the
support was there.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
i found many other ways to nurture and enjoy my babies though....
following bugs in the back yard,,,
wee hour in the morning and rocking chairs...
and rachel and i would snuggle in the ''big comfy chair we had at the time
,,and sleep wound up around each other..she still likes our bed/bed room best,,
after my mom in '98and sis died,in '03,she had gotten to be very insecure,i
quit work totall outside the home toward the end of ''03,, and we did alot of
reconnecting she and i ,,she's alot mor calmer,,secure,,still doent sleep in
her room but hey there are alot of ''crash sites '' our bed.plalet on my
fllor,couch,,etc,etc.....
we all shared a bed at different times,,, not all at once,,lol,,,house full
of blanket hoggs,,lol,,
a cute thing happened last week ,,my oldest son who just turned 20...came
home one morning last week ,and woke me telling me about his morning (normal
thing to happen unless he is too tired)at work... he laided on the bed beside me ,<
not so normal,but sweet>,while he was talking ,,like he was being stelth or
something..lol...and i rubbed his moppy head and remember a wee little blonde
head .,.,.,.,.,.totally for got what he was talking about,,,
and Ren,,,,,yes,,they grow up sooooooo fast..my oldest is 20..my 2nd is 18
and engaged.to a sweet girl who could use about 10 years of deschooling,,,she
has such a difficult time with her parents,,mom especially...and mom is jealous
of ME!!!!,,,all the girl wants is to be listen to.and not judged ,or told how
wrong or stupid she is
..geeeeeeeezzzz..........................................
danel is 15-1/2,,and rachel is turning 12,the 22nd of this month,,
i hate that my older two were the guinea pigs for our mistakes,,,but it wasnt
all bad...and they still are loving caring young men..so tis all good..
off my soap box and going for coffee,,,>>june
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