Question about time
Adrean Clark
I'm going through a difficult time right now. I left to go to Vermont
a couple weeks ago for training to become a certified deaf
interpreter. The experience was awesome. My body didn't handle the
information overload too well and my general anxiety gave way to
full-blown panic attacks. Now that I've returned home I am still
susceptible to them, especially after a day of outings. I've been
trying to rest and do what I can, but being alone with three young a
energetic boys can leave me grinding my teeth at night. I don't have
an outlet for the stress.
I love my children and enjoy unschooling very much. They are very
sociable kids and they create different things to do. I don't mind
picking up after them with invitations to them but four people's mess
is a lot for one weak mom. I've tried to implement RU, working with
the boys in food, bedtimes, and so on. I know I still have a lot of
work to do on myself.
My mother has said that I need to put the kids to bed early or send
them back to school so I can have time to myself. I said that it
would cause different stresses and still have the same problem.
Has anyone gone through anxiety disorder and unschooling? How can I
be able to work on calming myself and still meet my kids' needs?
Adrean
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a couple weeks ago for training to become a certified deaf
interpreter. The experience was awesome. My body didn't handle the
information overload too well and my general anxiety gave way to
full-blown panic attacks. Now that I've returned home I am still
susceptible to them, especially after a day of outings. I've been
trying to rest and do what I can, but being alone with three young a
energetic boys can leave me grinding my teeth at night. I don't have
an outlet for the stress.
I love my children and enjoy unschooling very much. They are very
sociable kids and they create different things to do. I don't mind
picking up after them with invitations to them but four people's mess
is a lot for one weak mom. I've tried to implement RU, working with
the boys in food, bedtimes, and so on. I know I still have a lot of
work to do on myself.
My mother has said that I need to put the kids to bed early or send
them back to school so I can have time to myself. I said that it
would cause different stresses and still have the same problem.
Has anyone gone through anxiety disorder and unschooling? How can I
be able to work on calming myself and still meet my kids' needs?
Adrean
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Deb
Can you maybe find a local teen to come over to play with the kids
(even just a couple of the kids) a couple times per week? You'd still
be on hand for crisis situations, but you wouldn't need to be right
there all the time and could maybe go take a bubble bath (or whatever
you find energizing and refreshing - a walk in the back yard even). Or,
find another mom who might trade off a couple kids with you. Options
exist, it's just finding them and figuring out which work best for your
household.
--Deb
(even just a couple of the kids) a couple times per week? You'd still
be on hand for crisis situations, but you wouldn't need to be right
there all the time and could maybe go take a bubble bath (or whatever
you find energizing and refreshing - a walk in the back yard even). Or,
find another mom who might trade off a couple kids with you. Options
exist, it's just finding them and figuring out which work best for your
household.
--Deb
[email protected]
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From: Deb <debra.rossing@...>
Can you maybe find a local teen to come over to play with the kids
(even just a couple of the kids) a couple times per week? You'd still
be on hand for crisis situations, but you wouldn't need to be right
there all the time and could maybe go take a bubble bath (or whatever
you find energizing and refreshing - a walk in the back yard even). Or,
find another mom who might trade off a couple kids with you. Options
exist, it's just finding them and figuring out which work best for your
household.
-=-=-=-
Yeah--I was thinking a maid---or even a teen who likes to organize
*other people's* stuff. <g>
Or find a mom who hates "field trips" and agree to take her kids OUT
while she cleans your messes.
Other options.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
From: Deb <debra.rossing@...>
Can you maybe find a local teen to come over to play with the kids
(even just a couple of the kids) a couple times per week? You'd still
be on hand for crisis situations, but you wouldn't need to be right
there all the time and could maybe go take a bubble bath (or whatever
you find energizing and refreshing - a walk in the back yard even). Or,
find another mom who might trade off a couple kids with you. Options
exist, it's just finding them and figuring out which work best for your
household.
-=-=-=-
Yeah--I was thinking a maid---or even a teen who likes to organize
*other people's* stuff. <g>
Or find a mom who hates "field trips" and agree to take her kids OUT
while she cleans your messes.
Other options.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrean Clark <adreanaline@...>
My mother has said that I need to put the kids to bed early or send
them back to school so I can have time to myself. I said that it
would cause different stresses and still have the same problem.
-=-=-
Has your mom offered to actually HELP? <g>
Like take the boys for a few days or pay for a maid or...anything?
-=-=-=-==-
Has anyone gone through anxiety disorder and unschooling? How can I
be able to work on calming myself and still meet my kids' needs?
-=-=-=-
Xanax. But I love palindromes. <g>
It worked for me, but it definitely has its downsides!
I've been off it now for several years (only one each night, before
bed), but I doubt I could have survived a particularly long, bad spell
without it.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
From: Adrean Clark <adreanaline@...>
My mother has said that I need to put the kids to bed early or send
them back to school so I can have time to myself. I said that it
would cause different stresses and still have the same problem.
-=-=-
Has your mom offered to actually HELP? <g>
Like take the boys for a few days or pay for a maid or...anything?
-=-=-=-==-
Has anyone gone through anxiety disorder and unschooling? How can I
be able to work on calming myself and still meet my kids' needs?
-=-=-=-
Xanax. But I love palindromes. <g>
It worked for me, but it definitely has its downsides!
I've been off it now for several years (only one each night, before
bed), but I doubt I could have survived a particularly long, bad spell
without it.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org
Pamela Sorooshian
On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Adrean Clark wrote:
very perfectionistic and ambitious (in the best sense of that word, by
the way and I TOTALLY identify with you <G>).
If your physical and mental health is suffering and if you think that
some "time off" would help with that, then you and your kids could
talk about ways to help you get what you need.
It isn't a moral or ethical issue, it is a practical problem to be
solved by your family. "Mommy really really needs to get a little more
rest in order to be healthy. Let's see if together we can come up with
some ideas."
Then, TRY their ideas - even the farfetched ones. I remember I was
really sick once and told my daughters I needed them to do something
safe and quiet while I rested. My little one decided that she should
sing to me and rub my back. So, I didn't get a break from the kids,
but, still, what a sweet gift!
But, you might be surprised - once you've brainstormed some ideas,
toss the idea out that they might all go into their bedrooms and set a
timer for one hour so that you can have one uninterrupted hour of rest
time every day. Maybe brainstorm a list of things they could do during
that time.
Another idea is to get a mother's helper - someone who comes every day
for an hour or two and THEY facilitate the kids while you go take a
nap or a bath or go for a walk or read a book or whatever will help you.
OR - maybe someone to clean house for you - a teenage kid who won't
charge you much, and who will clean up clutter, not just do actual
cleaning.
I wrote something, somewhere, about getting mini-vacations throughout
the day. I'm going to go look for that and post it because it sounds
like you really really need it.
-pam
> My mother has said that I need to put the kids to bed early or sendI can hear that you're a bit desperate, and I'm betting that you're
> them back to school so I can have time to myself. I said that it
> would cause different stresses and still have the same problem.
>
> Has anyone gone through anxiety disorder and unschooling? How can I
> be able to work on calming myself and still meet my kids' needs?
very perfectionistic and ambitious (in the best sense of that word, by
the way and I TOTALLY identify with you <G>).
If your physical and mental health is suffering and if you think that
some "time off" would help with that, then you and your kids could
talk about ways to help you get what you need.
It isn't a moral or ethical issue, it is a practical problem to be
solved by your family. "Mommy really really needs to get a little more
rest in order to be healthy. Let's see if together we can come up with
some ideas."
Then, TRY their ideas - even the farfetched ones. I remember I was
really sick once and told my daughters I needed them to do something
safe and quiet while I rested. My little one decided that she should
sing to me and rub my back. So, I didn't get a break from the kids,
but, still, what a sweet gift!
But, you might be surprised - once you've brainstormed some ideas,
toss the idea out that they might all go into their bedrooms and set a
timer for one hour so that you can have one uninterrupted hour of rest
time every day. Maybe brainstorm a list of things they could do during
that time.
Another idea is to get a mother's helper - someone who comes every day
for an hour or two and THEY facilitate the kids while you go take a
nap or a bath or go for a walk or read a book or whatever will help you.
OR - maybe someone to clean house for you - a teenage kid who won't
charge you much, and who will clean up clutter, not just do actual
cleaning.
I wrote something, somewhere, about getting mini-vacations throughout
the day. I'm going to go look for that and post it because it sounds
like you really really need it.
-pam
Kimberly Slage
Oh my goodness. Yes. I have had horrible panic attacks since I was a young
girl.
I did not know what they were though at the time. I will not go into details
however I will say that\
finding a good Dr. will help. My family physician helped me out with them
and so far I am
panic free for five years. I think taking care of yourself first would be
the first step obviously.
Your children are first in your life which is terrific, but how can you be
there for them if you
can not be panic attack free. Rest is great, but it sounds like you live in
"fear" of having the
panic attack, then you have them. It becomes a horrible cycle. Get to your
Dr. Be honest withim/her.
I had a great female family Dr. You may need to go on medication for them,
but rest assure this will
be a temporary thing. For me the panic attacks themselves kept me isolated
and "freaked" out and then I couldnt
go anywhere.
I hope this helps!
Kimberly
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Adrean Clark <adreanaline@...>
wrote:
Kimberly Slage
www.magnoliaacademy.weebly.com
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girl.
I did not know what they were though at the time. I will not go into details
however I will say that\
finding a good Dr. will help. My family physician helped me out with them
and so far I am
panic free for five years. I think taking care of yourself first would be
the first step obviously.
Your children are first in your life which is terrific, but how can you be
there for them if you
can not be panic attack free. Rest is great, but it sounds like you live in
"fear" of having the
panic attack, then you have them. It becomes a horrible cycle. Get to your
Dr. Be honest withim/her.
I had a great female family Dr. You may need to go on medication for them,
but rest assure this will
be a temporary thing. For me the panic attacks themselves kept me isolated
and "freaked" out and then I couldnt
go anywhere.
I hope this helps!
Kimberly
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Adrean Clark <adreanaline@...>
wrote:
> I'm going through a difficult time right now. I left to go to Vermont--
> a couple weeks ago for training to become a certified deaf
> interpreter. The experience was awesome. My body didn't handle the
> information overload too well and my general anxiety gave way to
> full-blown panic attacks. Now that I've returned home I am still
> susceptible to them, especially after a day of outings. I've been
> trying to rest and do what I can, but being alone with three young a
> energetic boys can leave me grinding my teeth at night. I don't have
> an outlet for the stress.
>
> I love my children and enjoy unschooling very much. They are very
> sociable kids and they create different things to do. I don't mind
> picking up after them with invitations to them but four people's mess
> is a lot for one weak mom. I've tried to implement RU, working with
> the boys in food, bedtimes, and so on. I know I still have a lot of
> work to do on myself.
>
> My mother has said that I need to put the kids to bed early or send
> them back to school so I can have time to myself. I said that it
> would cause different stresses and still have the same problem.
>
> Has anyone gone through anxiety disorder and unschooling? How can I
> be able to work on calming myself and still meet my kids' needs?
>
> Adrean
>
> --
> Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com
>
>
Kimberly Slage
www.magnoliaacademy.weebly.com
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Debra Rossing
>- maybe someone to clean house for you - a teenage kid who won't chargeyou much,
If you've got a college somewhere in the area (community college or 4 yr
college/university), college kids will often barter childcare or
housework for laundry privileges and some home cooking (even if THEY do
the cooking, real food instead of cafeteria stuff) and a non-dorm space
to do class work occasionally.
Deb
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Shannon
I don't know how unschooling House Fairy (Housefairy.com ) would be
considered but she works in our house.. She helps you by giving you the
tools to give your children the tools to pickup after themselves. It has
helped the adults as well as the kids. I have to say that I just didn't see
my kids as being capable of doing what I thought they needed to do but we
have all learned differently. My eight year old even helps with the laundry.
That is not to say that he has done it by himself. Housework can be fun and
even it takes longer it is much more fun done together.
Shannon
_____
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrean Clark
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Question about time
I'm going through a difficult time right now. I left to go to Vermont
a couple weeks ago for training to become a certified deaf
interpreter. The experience was awesome. My body didn't handle the
information overload too well and my general anxiety gave way to
full-blown panic attacks. Now that I've returned home I am still
susceptible to them, especially after a day of outings. I've been
trying to rest and do what I can, but being alone with three young a
energetic boys can leave me grinding my teeth at night. I don't have
an outlet for the stress.
I love my children and enjoy unschooling very much. They are very
sociable kids and they create different things to do. I don't mind
picking up after them with invitations to them but four people's mess
is a lot for one weak mom. I've tried to implement RU, working with
the boys in food, bedtimes, and so on. I know I still have a lot of
work to do on myself.
My mother has said that I need to put the kids to bed early or send
them back to school so I can have time to myself. I said that it
would cause different stresses and still have the same problem.
Has anyone gone through anxiety disorder and unschooling? How can I
be able to work on calming myself and still meet my kids' needs?
Adrean
--
Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com
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considered but she works in our house.. She helps you by giving you the
tools to give your children the tools to pickup after themselves. It has
helped the adults as well as the kids. I have to say that I just didn't see
my kids as being capable of doing what I thought they needed to do but we
have all learned differently. My eight year old even helps with the laundry.
That is not to say that he has done it by himself. Housework can be fun and
even it takes longer it is much more fun done together.
Shannon
_____
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrean Clark
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Question about time
I'm going through a difficult time right now. I left to go to Vermont
a couple weeks ago for training to become a certified deaf
interpreter. The experience was awesome. My body didn't handle the
information overload too well and my general anxiety gave way to
full-blown panic attacks. Now that I've returned home I am still
susceptible to them, especially after a day of outings. I've been
trying to rest and do what I can, but being alone with three young a
energetic boys can leave me grinding my teeth at night. I don't have
an outlet for the stress.
I love my children and enjoy unschooling very much. They are very
sociable kids and they create different things to do. I don't mind
picking up after them with invitations to them but four people's mess
is a lot for one weak mom. I've tried to implement RU, working with
the boys in food, bedtimes, and so on. I know I still have a lot of
work to do on myself.
My mother has said that I need to put the kids to bed early or send
them back to school so I can have time to myself. I said that it
would cause different stresses and still have the same problem.
Has anyone gone through anxiety disorder and unschooling? How can I
be able to work on calming myself and still meet my kids' needs?
Adrean
--
Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com
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Adrean Clark
> Has your mom offered to actually HELP? <g>She has offered to take the boys overnight before. She has helped
with folding laundry and bringing supper, so I take what little I can
:)
> Xanax. But I love palindromes. <g>I take lorazepam and some homeopathic medicines. I try to save the
pharm for the serious nights (just recently figured out it's worse
when I've been angry with the kids during the day - so hmmm need to
work on that.)
Looking forward to the mini-vacation post :D
We are preparing to move to St. Paul, MN at last so I have already
found an ASL-fluent psychatrist up there. Plus there's more family up
there (granted, on the other side of the family but they sign :) )
There's even a Deaf homeschooling group. I'm looking forward to it
and hope to keep things together til we get there!
Thanks for all your advice. There are LOTS of colleges around the
Twin Cities and interpreter training program students so I'm sure we
can figure out something there :D
Adrean
BRIAN POLIKOWSKY
Hi Andrean I live only a little over one hour from St Paul.
I sign very little but would love to learn more.
I had a very dear friend that was deaf but did not sign.
I know some a couple of unschoolers up in the Cities.
Let me know when you are here.
I pick up languages fast and I would love to meet you the kids and learn some sign language.
I love in a Dairy Farm and its very busy but peaceful and its great when you are stressed and need to relax .
Come visit me and decompress.
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
----- Original Message ----
From: Adrean Clark <adreanaline@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:16:16 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Question about time
with folding laundry and bringing supper, so I take what little I can
:)
pharm for the serious nights (just recently figured out it's worse
when I've been angry with the kids during the day - so hmmm need to
work on that.)
Looking forward to the mini-vacation post :D
We are preparing to move to St. Paul, MN at last so I have already
found an ASL-fluent psychatrist up there. Plus there's more family up
there (granted, on the other side of the family but they sign :) )
There's even a Deaf homeschooling group. I'm looking forward to it
and hope to keep things together til we get there!
Thanks for all your advice. There are LOTS of colleges around the
Twin Cities and interpreter training program students so I'm sure we
can figure out something there :D
Adrean
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I sign very little but would love to learn more.
I had a very dear friend that was deaf but did not sign.
I know some a couple of unschoolers up in the Cities.
Let me know when you are here.
I pick up languages fast and I would love to meet you the kids and learn some sign language.
I love in a Dairy Farm and its very busy but peaceful and its great when you are stressed and need to relax .
Come visit me and decompress.
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
----- Original Message ----
From: Adrean Clark <adreanaline@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:16:16 AM
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Question about time
> Has your mom offered to actually HELP? <g>She has offered to take the boys overnight before. She has helped
with folding laundry and bringing supper, so I take what little I can
:)
> Xanax. But I love palindromes. <g>I take lorazepam and some homeopathic medicines. I try to save the
pharm for the serious nights (just recently figured out it's worse
when I've been angry with the kids during the day - so hmmm need to
work on that.)
Looking forward to the mini-vacation post :D
We are preparing to move to St. Paul, MN at last so I have already
found an ASL-fluent psychatrist up there. Plus there's more family up
there (granted, on the other side of the family but they sign :) )
There's even a Deaf homeschooling group. I'm looking forward to it
and hope to keep things together til we get there!
Thanks for all your advice. There are LOTS of colleges around the
Twin Cities and interpreter training program students so I'm sure we
can figure out something there :D
Adrean
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Faith Void
I love this malapropism.
Faith
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:58 PM, BRIAN POLIKOWSKY <
polykowholsteins@...>
.I love in a Dairy Farm <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/>
www.bearthmama.com
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Faith
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:58 PM, BRIAN POLIKOWSKY <
polykowholsteins@...>
.I love in a Dairy Farm <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/>
>--
>
>
>
>
www.bearthmama.com
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k
I noticed that too and thought it was great. :) Verra nice.
~Katherine
~Katherine
On 7/21/08, Faith Void <littlemsvoid@...> wrote:
>
> I love this malapropism.
> Faith
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:58 PM, BRIAN POLIKOWSKY <
> polykowholsteins@... <polykowholsteins%40yahoo.com>>
> .I love in a Dairy Farm <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --
>
> www.bearthmama.com
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